Here, Dog Bark Collar, & Wizardry
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We head to the theatre for the new Hanks/Wright/Zemeckis film with an interesting hook, strap on some tech that just might make life with your furry friend a little better and play an atmospheric action-adventure-stealth game set during the Black Plague!
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Show Notes
- Gabriel Iglesias » fluffyguy.com/
- Here » youtu.be/I_id-SkGU2k?si=e-Udgt9LSz8mY2gb
- The Diplomat » youtu.be/J49VymjKJ8w?si=lcrnsrbnUZBfnXEW
- DINJOO Bark Collar » amzn.to/3Z0KXuU (affiliate)
- Intellivision II Toy Show Lot » youtu.be/e9xB8FJQCnY
- Balatro » www.playbalatro.com/
- Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord » store.steampowered.com/app/2518960/Wizardry_Proving_Grounds_of_the_Mad_Overlord/
- A Plague Tale: Innocence » store.steampowered.com/app/752590/A_Plague_Tale_Innocence/
- Dune: Prophesy » youtu.be/CzVHWNosS2o?si=Q8taKJsHlY2hxoc7
- Silo Season 2 » youtu.be/CLJDR-vFUdY?si=c2BavwQaXv8NEieb
- Red One » youtu.be/U8XH3W0cMss?si=0ZBhZkmFTeQwpx_e
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Transcript
| Speaker | Transcript |
| Jon | Welcome back GenX Grona podcast listeners to this episode 179 of the GenX Grona podcast. I am John joining me as always of course is Mo. Hey man. |
| Mo | Hey, how’s it going? |
| Jon | Wouldn’t be a show without George. Hey George. |
| George | Hey, how’s it going guys? |
| Jon | In this episode, we head to the theater for the new Hanks Wright Zemeckis film with an interesting hook. track ah Strap on some new tech that just might make life with your furry friend a little better and play an atmospheric action adventure stealth game set during the Black Plague. |
| Jon | It’s very cheerful, but on that note, what? |
| George | I just, that one middle tease, make something make your life better with your furry little friend strap on. That stuff should not be in the same sentence. |
| Mo | Yeah, really. |
| Jon | Well, that’s why it’s a tease. You’re like, what the hell’s he talking about? We got to stick around to find out. It’s the whole point. He’s like, what’s this strapping on with my furry friend? You’ll see. and It’s not what you think it is, but it is cool. |
| Mo | No. |
| Jon | Before we get into all of those topics, though, it’s time for ah favor like time for my favorite part of the show, which is fourth listener email. The three of us are here. We’re liable to listen. |
| Jon | If anybody else does, you are our fourth listener. We are so grateful to have you. Our fourth listener this time around is Kevin H. And he dropped us a line inside of Patreon in the Patreon messaging ah system in there, all about the satanic panic backtrack. |
| Mo | Oh, OK. |
| Jon | And here’s what Kevin had to say. Reflecting on the 1980s satanic panic, I really wanted a He-Man action figure when I was four, but my parents told me that was demonic and I wasn’t allowed to get He-Man until my wife bought me one when I was 40. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| Mo | Good wife. |
| George | Mm. |
| Jon | Making up for a long time. ah Star Wars was also somehow satanic and I didn’t see Star Wars until the 90s. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| Jon | Yeah, he says, I actually saw space balls before Star Wars and was kind of bummed that Han Solo didn’t use the Schwartz. |
| Jon | that’s if We’ve talked about that, like you hear the weirdo version before the real version, right? |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | And then you kick it out of your head. Yeah. ah He says, I also have strong He says, I also have a strong memory of standing at the kitchen trash can with my mom saying goodbye and throwing away each of my 20 or so Smurf figures because my aunt told my mom they were satanic. |
| Mo | What? |
| Jon | The Smurfs. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| George | Wow. |
| Mo | Holy cow. |
| Jon | Wow. Okay. This is almost the end of the email. How are the Smurfs satanic? is any They’re blue. Satan, the devil is red. They’re little, the devil is like, |
| George | I mean, they all worship that girl smurf. So that’s, that’s idolization right there. |
| Mo | There is just one girl smurf, right? |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Is that what it is? Right? Oh, that is pretty salacious. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | There’s one girl’s for all the boy’s merch. |
| George | Well, and there seemed to be a lot of propagation going on for just one girl smurf. Cause there was a lot of the fuckers. |
| Jon | She, she did seem busy. |
| George | That’s all I know. |
| Mo | Yeah, that’s true. |
| Jon | Fair enough. |
| Mo | I’d say one other thing is like you talk about He-Man and I’m looking, you guys can’t see this of course, but John is wearing a He-Man t-shirt. |
| Jon | Oh yeah. That’s true. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah. That, well, this is, this is my, I wear this to satanic rallies. Of course it’s my email shirt. |
| Jon | Yeah. Anyway, Kevin wraps it up by saying, anyways, great podcast. Keep the nostalgia coming and stay rad, guys. Thank you, Kevin. |
| Mo | Cool. |
| Jon | Awesome. We appreciate you. ah He dropped us a line in Patreon, which we’ll talk about later in the show. Of course, a great way to support us if you enjoy the show. But if you would like your email featured here on the show, it is drop dead easy. |
| Jon | Contact us any way you can reach us, but it’s really easy to hit up an email at podcast at Gen X grown up dot com, where we read every single one of most of them like Kevin’s will eventually make the show. |
| Jon | All right. With that satanic business behind us, I guess let’s jump into the body of episode 179 right after this. |
| Jon | Let’s get the ball rolling talking about media that we have been enjoying since we spoke last time. Now, of course, this could be music or comics or books or television or whatever it is that you you dig. |
| Jon | and And George, I have an advanced knowledge of what you’re going to talk about because we actually had to adjust our recording schedule because you had a big Friday night event you were going to when we would have been recording. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Tell us about it. |
| George | Yeah. Uh, it’s, it was very strange the way it all came about. So not to bury the lead, my wife, my son, and I all got to go see Gabriel fluffy Iglesias last night at our local, uh, arena here in Tallahassee and. |
| George | I apparently bought the tickets for this back in April, and then completely forgot that I bought the tickets in April. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| Jon | Oh, yeah. |
| Mo | It’s a long time. |
| George | ah About a week ago, ah my son and I were at our local ah pinball arcade, flipping great pinball, and I’m sitting there and I decided to take a break, have a little snack, um and I looked at my phone, checked my emails, and was like, if you’d like to access your Gabriel Iglesias tickets, here’s how you, I’m like, what the, what Gabriel, |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | Oops. |
| Jon | ah who were What, really? |
| George | Yeah. So I had apparently bought floor seats to the fluffy concert and I wasn’t sure how it was going to pan out because as you guys know, ah my wife has had a major stroke. |
| George | She is still not really confined to a wheelchair, but she’s not ambulatory on her own yet either. |
| Jon | Right. |
| George | And so, uh, dealing with the local arena, which here is called the civic center, um, If you’re an ADA person, if you’re somebody who needs disability assistance, they, they try to do a good job, but the facility was really built in a time when that was not a predominant. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | thought in people’s minds. And at the same time, some of the management aspects of it, they don’t really do a great job. Like I was telling John the story before we went live about how they didn’t have any real way for people in wheelchairs to be in the line to go into the Civic Center. |
| George | Cause the doors don’t open until a specific time. |
| Jon | Oh, that’s not gonna happen. |
| George | And there was a big line forming outside and the way the line was, unless you got there two or three hours before, which if you’re a person who’s in a wheelchair, you know, that’s not really realistic. |
| Jon | but and No, no, no, no. |
| Mo | Yeah, you don’t want to do that. |
| George | um you would have been you The line was already all the way down their plateau and down some stairs. Well, you’re not climbing stairs in a wheelchair. |
| Mo | Stairs. |
| Jon | Right. |
| George | ah The only ramp is it’s way off to the side and where it brings you up at, it brings you up at the front of the line. Well, they weren’t making any accommodations at the front of the line for people in wheelchairs to be in their own line or something like that. |
| George | so We basically had to wait until a nice couple let us in line way in the back, but before the stairs. Anyway, we got in, we got down the elevator. I know the facility real well because we host a convention there every year with a friend of mine and we got to our seats. |
| George | They took her chair out of the row so she could stay in her wheelchair, which was nice of them. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| George | And we got to watch the concert now. ah For anybody who doesn’t know, Gabriel Fluffy Iglesias calls himself Fluffy because he’s kind of an oversized comedian. |
| Jon | ah |
| George | ah He’s on the plus size, but he’s not fat. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | He’s fluffy, as he likes to say, is one of his ah ah core routines. This is not one of his typical concerts. |
| George | This tour is called the Don’t Worry Be Fluffy Tour. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| George | And he’s not doing any of his old routine, which is interesting. Like none of his old, joke I thought for sure, you know, kind of like you go see, um, uh, like a Gallagher concert. |
| George | We’ve talked about Gallagher in the past. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Mm-hmm. |
| George | Gallagher is always going to do the watermelons, legematic stuff, right? |
| Mo | Right. |
| George | yeah Certain comedians have certain bits that are synonymous with them and they’re going to do something at some point, just like you go to see a musical act. |
| Jon | Right. |
| Mo | Yeah, some yeah. |
| George | They’re always going to play their number one hit or whatever. |
| Jon | Mm-hmm. You’re gonna play their hits, yeah yeah, yeah. |
| George | Right. |
| Mo | Right. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah, a few new things, but you have to get back to the hits, right? |
| George | Uh, |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | So, usually, yeah. |
| George | Exactly. Gabriel’s set, which went about an hour and a half for just him. |
| Mo | That’s long. |
| George | Anyway, to say all that stuff, but he’s doing new routine, which is which is great. ah But one thing he kept doing, John, honestly, he reminded me of you. |
| Jon | Hmm, in that, |
| Mo | Hopefully in a good way. |
| George | ah For those who don’t know, John and I met in a Star Trek club. At some point, John eventually became the leader of the Star Trek club, and ah he was known for ah giving these long speeches when he was drunk, which was funny. |
| George | um But he was… |
| Jon | I have no recollection of that. |
| Mo | Well, you’re drunk. |
| George | Yeah, ah he was a little bit more well known for just being a really good, um bringing everybody together type of politician in the room because we were all in our 20s or 30s. |
| George | We’re all hot tempered and passionate about whatever topic we happen to be talking about time. |
| Jon | No, the diplomatic thing, yeah. |
| George | John was really great at making the piece. Um, but John kind of did it sometimes in an apologetic way. And that’s what Gabriel Iglesias was doing here. He was like, you know, guys, I don’t really share certain things about my life. |
| George | And then he would get into the routine story about how, uh, his house was broken into nine months ago and he decided to sell his house. |
| Jon | Mm. |
| George | Or he would talk about how, um, he was contemplating retirement and then he would get into another story. And so it was that way. But I noticed that when he would do those little bridge sections. |
| George | They would take a long time and I found myself going. Okay, I understand you’re sorry. I got it the first 10 minutes of you telling me that you were sorry. Can we move on to a joke? |
| Mo | Right. |
| George | And that surprised me because I’ve watched all of his televised concerts and movies and whatnot that he’s done. And I’ve usually been on the floor, rolling, laughing. |
| George | Now this is not to critique him and say, I didn’t have a good time. I did. It was a funny show. He was very humor. He told a lot of good stories, a lot of great jokes. did the whole callback stuff that a comedian will do. It was really fun. I enjoyed it a lot, but |
| George | It wasn’t just a nonstop laugh fest that you might think of when you go to a comedy concert. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | He had a couple of preliminary comedians come up and do like 10 minute sets. And of course, Martin, his longtime friend and companion always does a set um and introduces him. |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | Um, but yeah, it was fun. It just wasn’t quite what I expected. |
| Jon | Do you think maybe it’s, he’s getting older and maturing and he’s getting more introspective and contemplative and that’s naturally making his way into his his bit, right? |
| George | up |
| George | Yeah, 100%. He talked about how long he’s been doing this. He’s been a stand-up comedian now for 28 years. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | That’s a long time. |
| Jon | Uh-huh. |
| George | Yeah, very long time. um He’s one of the few that’s been doing it for that long that’s still doing regular every week tours and concerts and events. |
| Jon | just arenas doing the grind. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah, he does. |
| George | Like ah Kevin Hart, who is a stand-up comedian, started out that way. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | He mostly does movies now and he’ll do like one Netflix special every couple of years kind of thing. |
| Mo | Right. Yeah. |
| George | um They had a lot of factoids up on the screen before he came out. They were saying things like, ah if he goes, if he keeps on the pace that he’s doing, he will have done more um stadium concerts, like not like what we were in last night, which is a Civic Center Arena type of thing, but like stadiums like Dodger Stadium. |
| George | ah He’ll have done more of them than anybody um by the year 2037, because he’ll pass George Carlin, who has the record at 13 right now. |
| Jon | Yeah. Wow. |
| George | Um, so he’s, he’s been doing this a long time. |
| Jon | Wow. Quite a legacy. |
| George | Um, he’s 48 years old now. Uh, Martin, his friend is a 56 years old. And so they’re both generation X. They were talking a little bit about that, um, about how generation X, you know, we’re tougher, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. |
| Jon | Yeah, we know that. |
| George | Um, but yeah. You can tell he’s, he’s getting tired. He’s, uh, he’s winding down a little bit and, you know, given all the stuff he’s probably gone through in his life and you know, how hard it was to get to where he is right now. |
| Jon | Oh. |
| George | i I can imagine that he, uh, he’s probably, you know, worn out for me and on road. One of his through storylines was how this was the first tour, um, that he had to hire a chiropractor to go on tour with him. |
| Jon | A tour with them. |
| George | So yeah, a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. I say it to say that if you have somebody in a situation like my wife is, |
| Jon | mm hmm. |
| George | don’t just dismiss the opportunities to go do something like that though, because even though the the thing might not live up to your expectations, just being with that person and sharing something outside of the four walls of your house is probably the best part of the memory. |
| George | Cause that’s what it was for me at least. So, you know, yeah. |
| Mo | I could imagine. Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah, it sounds like great therapy. I’m glad you got out to do something like that. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | I know you’ve been, it’s it’s it’s been ah it’s been a hell of a year. And so you deserve it. |
| Mo | Yeah, big time. |
| Jon | I’m i’m happy that you had a good time. |
| George | Yeah, it was nice to get out and go with the family. yeah It was a lot of fun. But anyway, enough of the depressing comedy routines. John, what do you want to talk about in media this week? |
| Jon | Oh, I was excited for a new film I got out to see. It’s called Here. I heard about it three or four months ago. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | Two things grabbed me about this film. The first is that it’s Tom Hanks, Robin Wright, directed by Robert Zemeckis. So this is a Forrest Gump reunion. |
| Jon | Like these three people haven’t worked together since then. |
| Mo | Right. Yeah. Yeah. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | But the ah production guy in me was excited by the fact that this entire film, the conceit of it is, It’s a stationary lockdown camera shot that never moves. |
| George | Right. The one in the corner that you were talking about and looking forward to. |
| Jon | That’s right. It never, I don don’t mean doesn’t move today or this week or this month. This camera has been there for all of time. And it’s the majority of the film is about this one house that was built. |
| Jon | So effectively, imagine a camera that’s in the middle of the woods during the Jurassic period. |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | And over time, a house is built up around it, right? So that’s the view you have. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | And sometimes it does flash back to There’s Native Americans and there’ there’s a big rock nearby where they come and sit and talk and or there’s a colonial village and this used to be a road that ran through here and you see like the the wagons and people talking about what’s going on with the redcoats, right? |
| Jon | But the main through line of the story is once they build this house, you see the people who lived in the house over the years ah through like the the teens and 20s and then in the 60s and then this family who buys it, I guess shortly after. |
| Jon | this was around 50s, 60s, whatever, becomes this story of the Tom Hanks family, whatever his character’s name was. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | And you follow him and it flashes back and forward and there’s the loves and the losses and the tragedies and the ah people have injuries or people, you know they lose people in their lives and all of it happens in this living room. |
| Jon | And you never see anywhere outside of that line line of view. You can see a house across the street. You can tell the time of year, is it snowing outside? And um it’s almost like a stage play because imagine if you’re sitting in a seat, no matter what happens on the stage, you have one point of view. |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | And so here feels very much the nice the that’s the idea. I’m going to watch it from here. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | Here’s the spot where I’m going to be. And I’m going to see all the things that take place. And you feel like a voyeur almost like a fly on the wall like I shouldn’t be here. You know, they’ll walk right up to the camera sometimes talking and like, Whoa, they’re right in my face. But I’m not I’m not there. Of course, they don’t know that. And you feel like you’re invading their space sometimes. And you watch people. It’s such a true story, like how people evolve, you know, people fall in love, they fall out of love, or they have challenges, or they lose jobs, or whatever. And you think about all that happens at home in the hearth in front of the fireplace in the living room, where you talk about how am I going to get through this and those sorts of things. It is a |
| Jon | a fascinating concept for a film. I loved it. I have seen some mixed reviews for it because it’s almost like the idea of the single camera, the single shot, takes away from the story they could have been telling. |
| Jon | But for my part, a film that does something different, something you haven’t seen before, tries to tell a story in a unique way, that offset for me any of the any of the little nitpicks I had with how it was structured or the story, the acting was top-notch. |
| Mo | Mm-hmm. |
| Jon | I mean, it’s Tom Hanks and Robin Wright, so no worries about that. |
| Mo | Of course. Yeah, yeah. |
| Jon | And it’s Zemeckis. And Zemeckis likes gimmicky things, you can understand that. But any nitpicks that I have are offset by the fact that it was fresh and it was well executed, and it felt like you’d You walk out of this movie feeling like you’ve seen something new. |
| Mo | Okay. So yeah. Cause I, I listened to some reviews about it. I haven’t seen it yet. And they’re pretty much saying what you were saying. It’s like, it almost seemed like an experimental film. Like, you know, Zemeckis had his idea in his head, like forever that he wanted to do this, but you know, technology and filmmaking wasn’t ready for that kind of thing yet. |
| Jon | Sure. |
| Mo | You know, and they said that, and the reviews I heard is that they said the story was lacking because it was slave a slave to this concept. Like you were saying, that’s it that’s what the review said. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | I said, I haven’t seen it myself. And you know and I’ve heard that from actually a few reviewers who said that. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | like They said the story just kind of like left you a little bit. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | You’re getting connected with the people as much as you probably should have, or they stayed on some people too long and some not at all, and you know that kind of thing. So I don’t know if that was, you could see that or not. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | but |
| Jon | You know, that that almost makes me want to stand up and defend the film a little stronger in that it isn’t a blockbuster. this is what are people’s lives like. |
| Jon | And people’s lives aren’t whiz-bang exciting normal people go through regular trials and tribulations. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | And when something happens, you know what you do the next day? You get right back into it. It’s not like, you know, let’s now move on to the next amazing story. It’s people living their lives and it feels very intimate in that way. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| George | Do you think that maybe part of the slight backlash that you guys are talking about in these reviews is due to the fact that, John, you mentioned it when you first introed the piece to us that this is Hanks and Wright and Zemeckis getting together again since the first time since Forrest Gump, which was a huge blockbuster. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| George | And so maybe there were some expectations that these three coming together again would do something like a Forrest Gump again, because Forrest Gump was a lifetime in the life story, right? |
| Jon | Sure. |
| Mo | Magic. |
| Jon | Maybe. Yeah. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | It was his whole life spread out across major events. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | ah But Maybe people were thinking that, Oh, well, these three are getting together again. This better be the next forest gump. |
| Jon | Maybe. |
| George | And, and when they didn’t get that, you know, maybe their view was skewed before they even saw it. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Jon | You know, and that that’s quite possible. And you make another really good point that makes me connected back to Forrest Gump. The weird thing about Forrest Gump is he was an average, even I would say a below average person, right? |
| Mo | Yes. |
| Jon | He had his challenges. |
| George | Mm-hmm. |
| Jon | He was very bright, but everything he did somehow was right in the middle of important pivotal world events. |
| Mo | Right. |
| George | Right. |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | Unbelievably so. |
| Mo | Right. |
| George | Right. |
| Jon | This is that same average run-of-the-mill people, but there’s not the magic of, oh, they’re somehow involved in major things. They’re just living their lives. The important things in their lives aren’t, oh, I’m at war, or oh, I you know won the Medal of Peace or whatever, you awarded by Nixon, all these things. |
| George | right |
| Jon | No, no, no. He’s just a, he, everyone, these several families, are just regular, normal people dealing with regular, normal shit, and that, is what I think made, the more I talk about it, the more I’m liking the movie. |
| Jon | I already liked it. I think I like it even more trying to, I don’t even know what attacking it, but as I defend it from these critics, I think that’s what I like about it more is that there’s too much, everything is the most important thing. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | Not every story has to be saving the world. Sometimes stories are, how do I save the people in my house? |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | How do I get them happy? |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | And that as I age, I think that’s a more important story for me than, you know, going out to outer space and defeating the aliens. You know, it’s more of like, you know, what’s life like? |
| Jon | And it was really, it was just touching film and a really cool experiment. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| Jon | So definitely worth seeing. |
| Mo | Let’s see. Yeah, I was I was iffy about seeing it but hearing you I’m gonna go see it now. |
| Jon | No, you got it, you got to see. It doesn’t have to be the big screen, honestly. It can just be a nice home view if you want. |
| Mo | Yeah, but we have the AMC thing. |
| Jon | But if you want to support it, yeah, yeah, right. You got to take it. |
| Mo | So might as well. |
| Jon | Yeah, so. Yeah, I do recommend it. more so After talking to you guys, I recommend it even more strongly. So, Moe, how about you? |
| Mo | Okay. |
| Jon | What have you been watching? |
| Mo | Yeah, so this is a TV show that, um you know, it’s one of these small joys you get in life is like when you discover a TV show and you realize that is more than one season already, you know, you’re like, oh, wow, it’s all new to you. |
| Mo | But, you know, so it’s a show on Netflix called The Diplomat. I don’t know if you guys have seen it yet, but um it’s ah so the second season just came out. |
| George | Oh yeah, yeah. |
| Jon | Oh, |
| Mo | I’m still watching the first season. And and it is. It is hard not to binge this show, I find. you know, because, and it’s about a woman. |
| Mo | She is like an ambassador United States, but she is sent to like Kabul, you know, like hotspots normally, you know, and that’s her expertise. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | Like she knows how to get things done. She could deal with people and none and then she gets this and she’s like waiting for her next assignment. So he’s like, where do you think it’d be? She’s like, Oh, it’s definitely be Afghanistan or it’s going to be here. It’s going to be here. |
| Mo | They sent her to England. She’s like, what the hell? |
| Jon | OK. |
| Mo | You know, like, what am I doing here? |
| Jon | Yeah, what does she need to deal with there? |
| Mo | Yeah, exactly. And she goes there, and the first thing they do is they talk about her clothes, and she has to go to these events. And she’s like, this is hell like to her. like This is like the worst thing. And then they see her aide there gets a phone call from the chief of staff in Washington, and they said, hey, you know this is only five people know this, but the vice president is going to be leap resigning soon, and the president thinks she’s going to be the best choice for vice president. |
| Jon | Oh. |
| Jon | Oh, really? |
| Mo | So they sent her there as like ah to see if she could handle. |
| Jon | Oh. |
| Jon | Like, like grooming her to see if she’s able to fit in this role kind of thing, because that’s not her comfort zone. |
| Mo | Yeah. into this role, right? |
| Jon | Oh, oh. |
| Mo | Yeah. And so she has no idea this at the beginning at all. She’s like, they’re sitting there talking about clothes and she just looks, she’s like, you know, I’m in hell. |
| Jon | Right. |
| Mo | This is just like the worst thing ever. Cause her hair’s, her hair’s always messed up and they’re like, and people look at her. So you’re going out looking like that? Yeah. And she’s like, yeah, why? |
| Mo | what’s What’s wrong with that? Yeah. Um, but then it’s like, um, and then like this international incident happens that England’s evolved in. So regardless, she just happens to be there with a hotspot happens in England that she needs to like, and so she has to talk down the president, I say she has to talk down the prime minister. So she’s back in her element. But what makes the show really good is the dial. It’s not a comedy, but the dialogue is so witty, you know, that you listen to these things that you’re just like, you’re cracking up because it’s just like the way they talk to each other and like her whole, like how she hates |
| Mo | dressing it up and and she’s like ah you know pants in the shirt and go out the door kind of person. you know Instead they’re fighting her ball gowns and yeah all this stuff and they’re doing her makeup and you know she walks down the street and she takes off her shoes because they’re high heels and she’s like, I’m just walking barefoot. And they’re like, no, no, you can’t do that. There’s pictures. you know um But the acting is amazing in it. um the The tension that they build through these international instances of things that are happening. And it just happens that her expertise helps in this. |
| Mo | It’s just so well-written, it’s so engaging that, like I said, it’s just hard not to binge the show. |
| George | You know, I think it’s funny when you’re describing how the character’s storyline goes from being in the rough and ready areas of the world to, you know, being groomed and put in the nice posh setting to possibly be the vice president because this is, ah what’s her name? |
| George | um Carrie Russell, right? That’s the main actress. |
| Mo | Yes, yes, yes, yes. |
| George | i remember The thing I remember most about Carrie Russell is she was always in those skincare commercials. When she first started out, she was like the the perfect skin model. |
| Mo | so yeah |
| Jon | Oh. |
| George | And that was like her thing. So I’m like, wow, like the, they would try and portray a person with that background as the rough and ready, you know, problem solver thing. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| George | And then Rufus Sewell is one of the main actors as well. I always remember him from dark city, the bad guy from night’s tail. |
| Mo | Yeah. Oh, Dark City. Yeah. |
| George | Uh, he’s been in so many things, but I just wondered, um, Did they, they play this for high drama, if I remember correctly, cause I think I saw two episodes of the first season last year, maybe. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Mo | OK, yeah, it’s definitely a lot of drama, yeah. |
| George | Um, yeah. |
| Mo | So yeah, it’s definitely high drama. And, and the other thing that kind of throws in is that her husband’s also an ambassador or what a former ambassador. And he’s used to just doing stuff, but now she’s the ambassador. |
| George | Right. |
| Mo | So he’s, he says, I’m the wife is what he says. Like, Oh, are you the wife? |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | He’s like, yes, I’m the wife. And he’s, and he like has the whole back and not do stuff. because he would undermine her, you know, and undermine her authority and undermine, you know, and people are used to going to him because he’s a guy, you know what I mean? |
| Mo | Like I said, it’s a very, you know, it’s still kind of sexist in the world. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | They listen to him more than her kind of thing. And so, I mean, but it’s, it’s also sweet, like little things, like they’re going through marriage issues and stuff. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | But then you see like every day he comes down and he makes this big plate of breakfast and he eats, he, and where she comes in, he leaves. But then the funny thing is she always sits where he sat and finishes what’s on his plate. |
| Mo | It’s like he makes breakfast for her. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | You know, like every day he makes it for her because it is just a little bit. |
| Jon | But like on the sly a little bit. |
| Mo | and deal Yeah, I think that they’re not even conscious of it. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | Either one of them really, you know, it’s like he makes his food. |
| Jon | ah |
| Mo | You see he’s speaking out things and he doesn’t even touch it. As soon as she walks in, she walks right through where he was sitting, sit down and starts eating. You know, it’s like little touches like that, which I think really kind of enjoy you to the people and stuff. And I said, and just for the dialogue and just how well it’s written is definitely a show worth watching. |
| Jon | Okay, and you said it’s on Netflix, the diplomat. |
| Mo | yeah Netflix. Yep. |
| Jon | All right, cool. |
| Mo | Yep. And there’s just two seasons now. So. |
| Jon | All right. it’s That’s great. When you start, you’re like, at least it’s not going to just leave me to the cliffhanger at the end of the first season. |
| Mo | Exactly. |
| Jon | There’s like you said, there’s more to see. |
| Mo | ah |
| Jon | Great. All right. We’ll be right back. |
| Mo | I’m going to jump into Tekken toys with something that’s going to I don’t know how it’s going to sound. like We brought up in the intro. It makes it sound like a really weird thing because this is like we said about the whole. |
| Jon | oh This is the strap on, George. |
| Mo | This is the strap on thing that you’re talking about. |
| Jon | We’re ready. We’re there. Here we go. |
| Mo | So, um you know, like I said, like I recently got married and we combined households and all that stuff. And one thing we had to combine was pets. Right. I have two dogs. She has a dog. So we all get together and they get along fine. |
| Mo | That’s not the problem. Thing is that her dog is a barker. |
| Jon | haha |
| Mo | And he barks the same whether he hears a dog five miles away barking, whether it’s somebody breaking into the house to kill us, or whether it’s a squirrel across the street. |
| Jon | yeah |
| Mo | It’s the same loud barking no matter what. There’s no discretion with this dog at all. you know He just barks constantly. And he’s a bigger dog too, so it’s that bark that like kind of makes the whole house shake kind of thing. |
| Mo | you know It’s like just poof, you know, through the whole thing. |
| George | Oh, yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah, yeah. |
| Mo | He’s a sweet dog, but he just likes barking for some reason. So we’ve been just sort of dealing with it, thinking that maybe he just sort of calmed down. No, he hasn’t. So we looked online, and we we heard about you know these bark collars. |
| Mo | And we didn’t want to get one that would actually like shock. |
| Jon | Oh, really? |
| Mo | you know They have those shocked ones, which I think that’s kind of neat. |
| George | Yeah, they’re pretty controversial. Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. So we didn’t want to get that one. So we found this one. |
| George | Yeah, they’re essentially dog tasers is what they are. |
| Jon | Oh, yeah, yeah. |
| Mo | Yes. yeah And it gives it a mild shot. |
| Mo | So we didn’t want to get. Right. |
| Jon | And so yeah. |
| Mo | Yep. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yep. |
| Mo | Yeah. We didn’t want get one that like tase the dogs, which I know is controversial. And also I think it’s cruel. Right. I think it’s just mean. |
| Jon | Oh yeah. Yeah. |
| Mo | So Amy went out and found a color on Amazon, of course. Right. That ah has to the beeps and it vibrates. And when he hears the dog bark, it’s a collar, and it does that. |
| Mo | Well, she didn’t know she actually bought one that has a third option that it can tase your dog. So we turned that off. |
| Jon | Oh. |
| George | Oh, wow. |
| Mo | It actually has three options. So we turned that one off, which was nice. i Actually, you could set which one it does. And um and it was |
| George | I kind of want to see the symbols for those selections. |
| Mo | a little lightning bolt. |
| George | I want to like, I was going to say like, there’s one that’s like a dog smiling and the other one’s like a dog’s like, got a thinking symbol above his head. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | And then the other one is just an electrified dog. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Oh, jiggly lines, his drawings. |
| Mo | jalides the ah I think so too. |
| Jon | You’re mean, George. I would have never thought of that. |
| George | I’m just saying some graphic designer out there missed an opportunity. |
| Jon | Oh, oh, they did it. |
| George | That’s all I’m saying. and |
| Mo | I agree. |
| Jon | They just took it off and review the right guy. We can’t do that. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Just do a lightning bolt. |
| Mo | We can’t do that. Just do lightning bolt. So, um, so let me tell you for $35 we’re kicking ourselves. Like, why didn’t we do this before? |
| George | e Yeah, they’re pretty effective. |
| Jon | Really? That well? |
| Mo | Because it ah soon as he just thought he did like one bark and it started beeping and vibrating. And then he went, whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that? And he like kind of like looked around a little bit and he went to his little his bed. He laid down. He’s like, OK, that was weird. yeah And and um it’s it’s actually amazing how fast it works. |
| Mo | Um, the, it’s USB-C rechargeable. It has a little color screens so you can see what it’s doing. And the other thing is that if the dog continues to bark, like after the set, it actually gets louder and vibrates more. |
| Mo | So it kind of, it ramps it up as the dog kind of keeps, if the dog keeps going. |
| Jon | Oh. Mm hmm. So like starts gentle, it doesn’t necessarily go straight to 11, right? |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | It’s like, you know, little nudge, little nudge, little more. |
| Mo | No, it doesn’t go, yeah, exactly. It just does a little, it sort of does a little electronic, like an old alarm on your watch. It used to sound like the beeping sound. It does like one of those little beep things, which is usually enough to freak out your dog. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | Because, you know, it’s weird. It’s coming from its neck as well. It’s like, what the hell? But yeah, as soon as it barked and it stopped, and he hasn’t done it since, it’s actually like, okay, should we keep it on him? |
| Mo | It’s only been three days. Like, what do we do? |
| Jon | I feel like they should require like when you purchase it. that you have to put it on yourself and try it to find out exactly what that dog’s gonna experience. |
| Mo | go ahead |
| Jon | Because you’ll know if you got it on the wrong setting right quick, won’t you? |
| Mo | ah you had okay |
| Jon | You’ll know. |
| Mo | are those many anyway they tell you |
| George | I mean, I don’t know how you enforce that, but that would make some interesting YouTube videos. I’m sure. |
| Mo | that |
| George | And ah I bet there’s a channel out there that probably has it. |
| Jon | Wouldn’t it? Yeah. |
| Mo | especially put the shock on oh there is a teenager out there that has us on and is doing sounds the ah |
| George | Oh yeah. |
| Jon | Dogcaller.com, here we go. |
| George | And right behind that teenager is a gen X are going, hell yeah. |
| Mo | it’s |
| George | Shock that some bitch. |
| Jon | ah Dummy. |
| Mo | And the funny thing is when you set it up, like it tells you like to test it and it says, oh, set the setting, blah, blah, blah. Make it sound like a dog. We’re like, really? |
| George | he |
| Mo | ah So we we’re like we haven’t like we’re going, whoa, but then we saw it vibrate. We’re like, OK. But yeah, it’s $35. And we’re like, man, we’ve just been dealing with this thing for months yeah and three days. |
| Mo | And it’s like pretty much fixed at this point. You know, I’m sure that more stubborn dogs out there and this, you know, I’m sure it, you know, your results may change depending on your dog, but 35 bucks. I think it’s worth doing. |
| Jon | but I’ve heard of those, but never knew anybody that tried one. You know, so it’s almost like, it’s the kind of thing you want to like deliver to your next door neighbor who has a barking dog as a gift. |
| Mo | yeah We tried this and yeah, but. |
| Jon | Yeah. You might find it’s good for you too. |
| Mo | Yeah, that’s cool. I’ll put a link in our show notes so people can find it. But now, John, you went to something that looks really cool. |
| Jon | Sure, sure. |
| Mo | What was that? |
| Jon | Yeah, so I want to share with you those tech and toys and this is kind of both. But what was I guess it was a few months ago now it was around my birthday actually when I visited a a toy show here in town that kind of every quarter or so they rolled around. |
| Mo | Awesome. |
| Jon | ah And you never know what you’re gonna find at a show like that, of course. And what I stumbled across was this will get George’s attention a lot. a whole bucket, a tub of Intellivision paraphernalia. |
| George | Mm. |
| Mo | Oh wow. |
| Jon | And I know Georgie and i have talking but i know ge you and I have spoken before about your affinity for Intellivision. |
| George | Fucker. |
| Jon | You never really had one. I know you have one now, but like it it doesn’t work. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | I need some little TLC. I was never that invested in them until Atari purchased all the stuff and I started digging in. I’m like, I’ve been missing out for so, there’s so much cool stuff on the Intellivision. |
| Mo | Yeah, very cool. |
| George | You’re You are literally a Johnny come lately when it comes to in television. |
| Jon | Absolutely. I am in both in spirit and in name. I am a Johnny come lately to in television, but I have really. The thing was that when you were a kid, there’s nothing I could do about it, right? |
| Jon | I wasn’t like, I couldn’t talk my parents into, no, we need an Atari and a television. |
| George | Right. |
| Jon | Are you, we need to take you to the, go to the doctor and your head’s wrong. You don’t need two game systems. Like it, it makes sense. You know, these days everybody has every, y’all got PlayStation and Switch and everything. |
| George | right |
| Jon | You know how it was. You got what you got and you were lucky to have it. And if you got a new one, you were probably an affluent family. just It just wasn’t a thing you got every year you got a new one. |
| Mo | Yes. |
| Mo | Absolutely. |
| Jon | So once you were in the Atari camp, I never got into television. And so I always, it was a Coke and Pepsi war. You know, it was like, whatever won your side of your own, you defended it no matter what. Well, that’s not good. That’s not good. The reality is. |
| George | Right. |
| Jon | It was made, the games that were made were by the same sorts of creative people in the late 70s, early 80s with the same mentality around how to make a game fun inside of a very limited environment. |
| George | Mhm. |
| Jon | There are things about the Intellivision, technologically they’re superior, some things that are inferior. All that kind of stuff is the stuff we used to argue about with consoles, which was like, well oh, this one has slightly more megabits per second and more raster scans and more vectors. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | And I don’t care anymore. I just want to have fun with these old stupid games that I thought I had seen them all. And now that I’m getting into Intellivision, there’s so many more that I’ve never touched. |
| Jon | I just did a video, I don’t know, last week or week before last about a sequel to Burger Time that was only ever on the Intellivision that I’d never heard of. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | And I’m like, because I lived in my Atari bubble, you just didn’t see that stuff anyway. So when I came across this big tub of Intellivision stuff, They wanted like 75 bucks for it. |
| Jon | Talked them down to me on the 50 bucks. |
| Mo | Mm. |
| George | Nice. |
| Jon | It included an Intellivision 2, the sequel one that came along ah that was a little smaller, it’s white, you know. |
| George | Right. |
| Jon | It had the Intellivoice thing on the side so it could talk to you with a B7G bomber kind of stuff. |
| George | Oh. |
| Mo | oh Wow. |
| Jon | And I wanna say 20, 25, 30 boxed complete games in that thing. |
| George | Wow. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| George | Complete with the overlays. |
| Jon | Yes, with the overlays, with the overlays. |
| George | Wow. |
| Mo | Wow. |
| Jon | And this was clearly something that had even more games because there are a few overlays in there for games I don’t have. They weren’t in the bunch. so but and And the television people, I’ve said this in videos before, they really seem to take care of the boxes because in television games were more complicated. |
| George | Wow. |
| Jon | They had the overlays you needed or you didn’t know what the hell you were doing. |
| George | Sure. |
| Mo | Oh right, you had to keep up right. |
| Jon | And because you could have lots of input and a numpad games were more complex in many so cases. you You could actually put in coordinates of where you wanted to send your ship to you know find the submarine or whatever. |
| Jon | But this, I think I’m going to kind of categorize this bunch of stuff as the official start of my Intellivision collection. |
| George | yeah |
| Jon | Not that I really need or want an Intellivision collection, but it’s ridiculously inexpensive. As I was going through making this video, which I will share with you, Mo, as you can put in the show notes, if you’d like, I actually went through and said, well, here’s what I paid 50 bucks. |
| Jon | And through the course of the video, as I go through an index, each item in the box, I put, well, here’s what its current market value is. Mine boxes are kind of rough. And by and large, their value of individual box games are like five bucks, eight bucks. |
| Mo | Oh, but still. |
| Jon | Not like Atari stuff. There just wasn’t the demand, I guess, in the aftermarket. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | It has been so much fun digging through this stuff. So go check out the video. You can see all the things that I got and the condition that they’re in. |
| Mo | Awesome. |
| Jon | ah I’m so happy that even though Atari has done nothing with the television yet, that they bought them to open my eyes to what I’ve been missing, a whole sector, a whole slice of that gaming nostalgia from the 80s that I’m able to experience for the first time now. |
| Mo | That’s really cool. The ah question, though you said it came within a television too. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | Were they backward compatible? |
| George | Mm-hmm. |
| Jon | Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was kind of like, |
| George | It was the same console as just a smaller version. |
| Mo | They are. Okay. |
| Jon | Yeah, it’s like the PlayStation Slim. |
| Mo | Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I didn’t know that. Got it. |
| Jon | They just like sized it down and they they moved the power brick outside and that kind of thing. |
| Mo | Got it. Okay. |
| Jon | Yeah, back totally compatible. Totally compatible. |
| Mo | Okay. Very cool. |
| Jon | Same thing. Yeah. |
| Jon | I’m gonna get out of this. Oh, I know. |
| Jon | It’s just a lot of a lot of things that you can now experience. And I’m sure Atari is gonna eventually start doing some more with that and television property. |
| Mo | Oh yeah, I hope so. |
| Jon | We’ll probably see some more stuff in the future, but in the meantime, it’s a great place to to play some cool games. And on the topic of games, when we get back from this break, we’re gonna jump in and talk about the games we have been playing since we spoke last. |
| Jon | Stick around. |
| Jon | ah different. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | So okay. |
| George | Games five, four, three. |
| George | All right, gentlemen, like John said, right before the break, time to talk about games. John, I know you were itching to talk about this goddamn card game that you try keep trying to get me to buy that you keep pimping out everywhere. |
| Jon | Oh man. |
| Mo | yeah |
| Jon | It’s crazy. |
| George | Like you’ve got this thing out on the corner of 52nd and 110th in New York’s old hometown or something like that, trying to make some money for you. |
| Jon | First one’s free. First one’s free. |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. It’s, um, I actually discovered it. Thanks to some of our members over on our discord server at Gen X growing up.com slash discord. I got it. |
| Mo | no Yeah. |
| Jon | Just like George does. |
| Mo | look at that. |
| Jon | Uh, they were in our modern game section. Someone had posted, Hey, is anybody playing this game? Ballotro. So just, what is it, Bellatro? |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | What does it mean anything? |
| Mo | Yeah, the name is like, doesn’t give you a hint. |
| Jon | It’s not a real word. Like what the hell, what are you talking about? And they had a little back and forth about how addictive it is and how much fun it is. And it’s a card game and it’s like poker. And I’m like, what? Like like i poker, really? |
| Mo | so |
| Jon | So I went and looked at it and fast forward to now, it’s now installed on every computer I own, on my tablet, on my phone, it’s on everything. |
| Jon | It’s such an addictive little, |
| Jon | I think they call a rogue-like. Here’s the idea. We saw it in, remember the remake of Haunted House that came out last year, not 2024, but 2023, that Atari did, where you make a run at this haunted house and you’re gonna die. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | But once you die, they reset you to the beginning. And now you have to, with the new abilities you’ve acquired, try to make a run at it again and get a little further, get a little further, which I think it all goes back to an old BBS game called Rogue, which was like that. So these rogue likes are similar. So this is a, it is a cottage industry, by the way. It’s hard for me to find a place to talk about it because I found YouTube channels about strategy and how you can maximize this game and have more fun at it. |
| Jon | The basic concept is you have a deck of cards. That’s how it starts. 52 normal cards. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| Jon | And you have these blind levels. Like I need to make 300 points to get past this first blind. And you just, you draw eight cards, pick your five best. You can discard some and redraw some. |
| Jon | And they score, you know, face cards are 10, eight to eight of fives of five. And you try to make 300 points. and they gradually increase, but the twist of the game is all the ways to modify and build your deck. |
| Jon | So you might get jokers that you put in a slot that do something, like every face card is, you know, plus one on the multiplier. So now instead of 10 points, it’s 20 points. |
| Mo | Mm-hmm Okay |
| Jon | Or every, ten there’s there’s one that looks like a CB radio. Every 10 and four you play gets bonus points. And then you can do things like ah there are these celestial cards that upgrade the multipliers on every hand. So maybe you’re good at making full houses or straights. So you can increase the payout for full houses or straights. Then you get these modifiers called tarot cards that can twist your cards, put bonuses on the individual cards. Like this particular king of clubs gives you a extra dollar to spend in your upgrades at the end, you know, whatever. |
| Jon | and you have these slots, you can build X number of jokers, X number of modifiers, and the blinds get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where you’re playing a ah hand of cards and it’s scoring 200,000 points because you have all these cool modifiers. And over the course of playing, you’re gonna lose. And when you do lose, you’re gonna unlock jokers, you’re gonna unlock new modifiers. So the next time you take a run at it, |
| Jon | And George, I was talking to you just before the show a little bit. It’s like, I’ve never had this problem, but I know people that play and despise the game of golf because they go out and play it. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | And they’re infuriated because they’re terrible at it. And they had a horrible day on the course, but they can’t wait to go out and do it again because they remember that one game 10 games ago that nothing could go wrong. |
| Jon | And it was three holes in one. it It feels like you’re gaming the system, but the way that you game the system is built into the game itself. And of course it’s the the design, the visual art style and audio design is laid out just like ah just like and a phone app with all these little dings and boops and jingle noises and cash flows. that It gets the endorphins flowing. You’re like, oh, this is neat. well What’s going on? It’s a lot of fun. |
| Jon | And it just takes maybe 10, 15 minutes to play around. So it’s so hard to explain the concept. You’re not playing poker, you’re scoring points with poker hands and then modifying what you do. It’s crazy good. So I don’t recommend you go and get it because you won’t find time in your life to do other things once it gets ahold of you. |
| Jon | But if you have an extra slot in your life for a little addictive game like this, man, I’m having fun with Bellatro. Thank you to those folks at our Discord server that turned me on to it. And it’s become it’s become the thing that I do while I’m watching TV on my phone or my tablet at the same time and multitasking. It’s just that kind of cool little ah addiction, so. |
| Jon | It’s called Bellatro. We’ll put a link to the website where you can get it, but it’s on everything as far as I know. |
| Mo | Nice. |
| Jon | Well, I know everything about consoles, but your tablet, your phone, your PC, things like that. |
| Mo | Okay, cool. |
| Jon | You check it out. |
| Mo | um |
| Jon | Okay. Okay. I’m going to play Bellatro. Well, Mo, you tell me what you have. No, I’ll put it down. I’ll wait what you’ve been playing. |
| Mo | Okay so I’ve been playing Wizardry Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord and some of you out there are thinking wait a minute that’s a game from 1981 and it completely is. |
| Jon | Uh-huh. It is. |
| Mo | But Steam, Sir Tech, the original company, has gotten with a new company and they basically just re-skinned the original game. And I kid you not, that’s all they did. Matter of fact, they even talk about how the code underneath it is still the original code. They just re-skinned it and made it look better. And so I’m sitting there and I remember, just like you talk about Bellatro, I remember hours and hours and hours and days I lost playing this game. So I said, let me pick this up. |
| Mo | And wow, one, it’s still fun. You know, and two, yeah, good is good. |
| Jon | Yeah, good is good. |
| Mo | And two, they had cute things like they had the updated graphics and stuff. So you could, when you walk into the tunnels and you know, it was like the first true, like 3d ish game. It was the first game that you could create your own party. |
| Mo | It was the first game where they had that style of combat, which is now used in everything, you know. And, um, the fun part is that when you’re playing the game, it’s all as great, awesome graphics in the bottom right corner are the original graphics. |
| Mo | in a little box and you can see how it looks originally as you’re going through the game it’s like you’re playing in two spots and you’re like wow that cobalt does not look anything like a cobalt it just looks like i’m not sure what it is but in my head i imagine it looking i remember looking awesome but the reality is very very different |
| Jon | Yeah, yeah right. |
| George | You know, I think what you’re talking about in describing Mo is a little bit um part of this new movement of re-skinning old games to fit into the 4K era. ah There’s a company, I forget which one of the gaming companies doing this, their proprietary processes, they’re calling it HD2D. |
| George | like high definition but still keeping the game in 2D because there was a trend in the early part of the 2000s to make HD versions in like you know big 3D environments and recent and people didn’t like that as much so now they’re taking these older games these bit mapped games from the 16-bit and 8-bit eras and and re-skinning them to make them look gorgeous but still the same underlying game mechanics and gameplay underneath |
| Mo | Okay. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | It’s becoming a cottage industry into itself a little bit. I was considering talking about it on bit by bit, the video news stuff that we do now weekly on the YouTube channel, because it’s kind of a fascinating ah world of bringing back the games that we love to our modern era and still giving us something that physically feels the same, but visually looks completely new. |
| Mo | Interesting. |
| Mo | Yeah, yeah. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | Very much so. |
| Jon | It’s almost as if you’re making it look like it looked in your head or a version of what it looked like in your head. |
| Mo | yeah yeah Seriously, I 100% because, you know, if you, if you guys, if you see the original graphics, like when you’re walking out a tunnel, it’s all just lines, you know, it’s like a 3d kind of perspective lining thing you’re walking out. |
| George | Mmhmm. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | It’s not very. You know, detail. But in my head, if you ask me to describe what the game was like ah two weeks ago before I saw I’d be like, oh, yeah, now these like stone walls. |
| Mo | No, they didn’t have any of that. You know, my imagination fills in all of that information. |
| Jon | Right. |
| Mo | um And so it’s anything. And I forgot a couple of things. One, I forgot that, you know, You create your party and depending on your makeup, be a party makes a difference. And they had these advanced one. I remember like I suddenly remember like, Oh, I remember trying to advance a person so I could make him into a ninja. Cause I really want to make a ninja, but you have to advance your character, of your fighter character to a certain point where you can do that. You know, and I forgot how hard this game was. This game is not forgiving. Um, when your characters die, yeah, you can bring them back, but they’re not the same. They’re a little weaker. |
| Mo | when you bring it back from the dead, but you can do it. And as they get up in level, it gets more and more expensive to do it. |
| Jon | Yeah, makes sense. |
| Mo | You know, so it’s so it’s one of these things like I’m people who play the game. I remember like you’re sitting there, you in the dungeon, you’re doing really well. Everyone’s advanced and you ready to head back and you realize that you pretty much use all your resources and you’re trying to run back to the entrance hoping you don’t have an encounter. |
| Mo | cause you know this next encounter is going to kill people you know and you’re just hitting the button hit the button like i’m almost there this is staircase next hit and then suddenly you get a counter and this is your life sucks but no it’s it’s a um it is the original game i mean 100 you know the new graphics do make it feel it makes it feel new and let me tell you the game fighting system in it is still used today it’s exactly the same fighting |
| Jon | Yeah, I’m spent. |
| George | Mm. |
| Jon | Yep, you’re good. |
| Mo | Okay. So it’s the original game reskin looks beautiful. It’s, I, I’m having a lot of fun replaying it. It’s bringing back a lot of good memories. Um, it’s 35 bucks, which I think is a little pricey on, in my opinion. |
| Jon | Oh, yeah. |
| Mo | Uh, so I bought it. It was, I was on a steam sale. I bought it for, I think 20 bucks, but wait for a sale 20 bucks. |
| Jon | There you go. |
| Mo | I think he’d be very happy with it. 35 little pricey. |
| Jon | Yeah, okay. |
| Mo | So, and that’s what, no, George, the game you played, I think I played a version of this a while ago, but this is not a new game, right? |
| George | No, it’s not a new game and you probably played the exact same game that I’m playing right now ah because I picked a game ah for one specific purpose. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| George | I wanted to have something to talk about in my game segment because in the entire run, I think of the episodes, I don’t think I’ve ever missed having a game in the game segment and I wanted to keep my streak going, but I wasn’t playing anything new. |
| George | ah John often, not often, every week does a Tuesday edit of his podcast. And while he’s doing his Tuesday edit of his podcast over on Twitch, because Twitch has a partnership or is owned by Amazon, there’s a little button that you can click up there and you can get a whole bunch of free games because they release a bunch of free games every week. And you can click on it if you have Amazon Prime, you get these games for free. And this game came from that segment and it’s called a Plague Tale Colon Innocence. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | And that’s important because there has been a sequel ah to this game since then. This game came out in 2019. I’m sure at the time it was AAA pricing based on the game itself and what I’ve experienced so far. |
| Mo | Oh yeah. |
| George | It was probably a $60 game, ah but I got it for free because A, I have so many games that I can’t possibly play them all thanks to Humble Bundle and these free systems. |
| Jon | Nice. |
| George | between ah Amazon Prime and Steam and everybody else that releases free games all the time. |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| George | So I get to go back and experience games that are new to me, but are also free. So I always get my coreys out of a game when I’m playing it feels like, which we haven’t talked about the corey system in a while. |
| Mo | Right. |
| Jon | You don’t have to push start to get your money out of it. |
| George | Yeah, ah so the Cory system for those who maybe haven’t heard it before because we haven’t just we haven’t ah defined it in a little while. |
| Mo | Mm |
| Jon | Oh yeah. |
| Mo | hmm. |
| George | It’s one of our friends, ah oldest friends on the podcast, Cory. He says, if you ah buy a game for every dollar that you spend, you should get one hour’s worth of gameplay out of it in order for it to be a good value. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. Yep. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | um Obviously, the minute I load the game, I’ve gotten my value out of it because it’s free. |
| Mo | If you got infinite value. |
| Jon | Your head. |
| George | But I think based on the fact that this is ah in my GOG platform, because Amazon Prime gives you games in Epic and GOG and all these different platforms, not just their own GOG gives you this little thing of |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| George | ah how long you’ve played and how far in the game you’ve progressed. So a percentage of progression and how long you played. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| George | I’ve played it for an hour and 21 minutes. I’ve progressed 3%. I tried to do the math and I think I did it right. It looks like I should get at that rate of play about 45 hours out of this game. |
| Jon | That’s, that sounds on par. |
| Mo | Yeah, that’s pretty good. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | If that’s accurate, then I probably we got really close to my Cory’s head about this game day one. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| George | um And I’m not mad even if I didn’t because this game is gorgeous. It’s very much in the last of us vein of gameplay. It’s you’re playing a character who has gone through a traumatic event and you have to ah survive a world. It takes place in 14th century France. ah John mentioned in the teaser earlier Black Plague and everything and there are some plague elements that I’ve experienced so far in the game. |
| George | um you play this young girl whose family is well off and they have you know like a little castle kind of thing and stuff ah very early on ah your mother and father are murdered by these knights who are hunting your younger brother who has some kind of affliction ah He always gets these headaches and he holds his hands holds his head in his hands and you know stuff like that. |
| Mo | Mm. |
| George | um Your mother was an alchemist who was akin to a doctor ah from that time period and was always trying to cure him. And before she dies, she tells you, take your brother to this other place to find this other doctor to help him and you and everything. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| George | ah So you travel to the other place this other village, and that’s where the plague is, and the townspeople have lost their shit. Most of them are hiding in their homes but some of them are out killing and burning their own people. |
| George | And so you’re running around this gym cotta like village and I talked about that because somebody posted our Discord server recently. |
| Jon | ah ah ah |
| George | Um, but it’s this village of like narrow alleyways and corners that you’re trying to run with your brother and you have to, he’s kind of a tool a little bit, like he can help you get through certain pathways and situations because he’s smaller. |
| Mo | Oh, a tool in the good sense, okay. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | oh |
| George | That kind of thing. Um, but it’s, it’s really fun. Visually it’s, it’s beautiful. I know it’s a 2019 game. It’s five years old, but it’s still gorgeous to me. |
| Jon | so |
| George | Um, the The main character is a strong young female character, which ah we have found over the last 15 or so years, ah games have done really well with that character set. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| George | And this game seems to be no exception so far. If you haven’t already, but you’re on Amazon Prime, this game is still available right now as you’re hearing this on ah drop day. |
| George | I can’t say it’ll be there when you, if you get around to this podcast later. But um go check it out if you have Amazon Prime, ah you’ll have to have a ah Grand Ole Games account and then it’ll log in and you’ll redeem your key and then you can play it on that platform. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. Small price to pay. Yeah, free. |
| George | But just a gorgeous, fun game so far that has made me come back and back again two or three times since ah John’s edit that day. |
| Mo | Yeah. Like I said, it’s been a while since I played it, but I remember it was very like atmospheric, dark, you know, like it really gave you a feel like I’m not in a good place. |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | Like, you know, |
| George | Yeah, there was some creepy shit at the beginning, like one of the tutorial sections at the very beginning, like you and your dog and your father in the woods and, you know, just kind of hunting stuff and he’s teaching you how to shoot your little sling, which is your primary weapon. |
| George | And the dog at some point goes off to chase this wild boar and then gets sucked down into this pit of hell looking thing and |
| Mo | Mm hmm. |
| George | You’re not really sure what grabbed him or what maimed and mutilated the boar that he was chasing, but ah your father immediately grabs you and you guys run back to your home. |
| Mo | Smart dad. |
| George | Yeah. So there’s, there’s that magical demon-esque element along with the Blackpig crazy people in France kind of element, along with the historical element. Any of those things should satisfy most people looking for a good storyline. |
| Mo | Nice. |
| Jon | Yeah, I looked at the video and it looks I’m gonna go download it. I just i didn’t know so. |
| George | And that’s the so the one trailer that I saw before I started playing it was Sean Bean. ah He was like reciting a poem that held significance in the game, I guess. |
| Jon | Oh, yep. |
| George | But he’s not in the game. There’s no Sean Bean motion capture. And it was just funny because my family and I are rewatching Snowpiercer right now that Sean Bean is a main character in. |
| Mo | Yeah. yeah yeah |
| George | And so I was like, Oh, this is awesome. Like the YouTube Amazon.gods were listening to us watch Snowpiercer and suggested this game or whatever. But yeah, he’s not in the game. |
| George | He was just in a trailer. I’m like, that seems odd. It’s, you know, but whatever, it got me to play it. |
| Jon | Yeah. You made, you manifested it into the world just by watching snow piercer. |
| George | So I’m happy. |
| Jon | You made it happen. |
| Mo | Nice. |
| George | Apparently. |
| Jon | Coming into the back end of the show here where we’d like to take a moment to talk about the things we’re looking at now or looking forward to between now and the next time we get together. |
| Jon | And I’ll start with Mo this time. What do you have on the horizon? |
| Mo | Sure. uh let’s see uh silo great tv show season two’s coming out uh november 15th uh gladier 2 feel i’m kind of i’m not sure how i feel about this one but you know ah i’m sure i’ll see it you know it’s it’s it seemed like it’s got good reviews i’m not sure how |
| George | Mm hmm. |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. Okay. |
| Mo | Desil Washington’s in it or something like that. It’s it’s uh, yeah, which how he fits it It’s just anyway, I’m gonna go see it. |
| Jon | Yeah, I think so. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | Um, but i’ mostly important to you though is a dune prophecy on cinemax which comes out ah November 17th It’s like a new telling of the dune world which is gonna be cool because it kind of goes into the Benny Gesserit and They’re using some of his notes and some of the other stories that some other authors have written to kind of help flush it out But it’s essentially a new story for the most part And it could be amazing. |
| Mo | It could go horribly, horribly wrong. Um, you know, and I’m like a diehard dune read this, you know, my copy of my original, I still have my original copy I had since I was a teenager, which is falling apart and everything. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. |
| Mo | So I’m hoping I love it, but we’ll have to see. |
| Jon | Now, is this a series or a film? |
| Mo | It’s a series. |
| Jon | A series? |
| George | Yeah. |
| Jon | Okay, huh. |
| Mo | You know, the trail looks awesome. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| Mo | So I’m hoping it lives up to the trailer, I guess. ah So we’ll see where that goes. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | So how about you, George? What are you looking forward to? |
| George | oh Well, the first one I’m looking forward to is a movie called in flight it releases on November 8th Which ah has already happened, but it releases on video on demand like ah later this week So that’s how I’m gonna get to watch it ah Stars one of the um one of the actresses from or the one of the lead actresses from the old flash TV series It was on CW for a little while and a couple other people. |
| Jon | Hmm. |
| Mo | fly |
| Jon | Okay. |
| Mo | Oh, okay. |
| George | It looks like it’s one of these ah she |
| Jon | Oh. |
| George | she’s out having fun with a person that she just met and then she wakes up and she’s on a plane and she has no fucking clue how she got there and people are like giving her these weird clues of what she should do or say or it’s like this weird kind of enigma mystery or based around like lost memories possibly while she’s contained in an airplane in flight so |
| Jon | oh |
| Mo | Oh. |
| Jon | Huh. |
| Jon | Huh, interesting. |
| George | Should be kind of interesting. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| George | I’m not really sure, but I like those kind of offbeat movies. um Dune Prophecy, as Mo mentioned, I’m looking forward to that because it has the same visual aesthetics as the latest two films from what I can see. |
| Mo | Sure. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | I think Mo, this one looks to be a prequel to the original Dune story based on the trailer. |
| Mo | Yeah. Yep. |
| George | um And then the thing I’m looking most forward to is the one that Mo was looking forward to first, Silo season two, because my wife and I absolutely adored that series. It was one of those where they released it weekly. |
| George | So you couldn’t binge watch it, which we have discovered through rewatching Snowpiercer that I was talking about in the last segment, um that some shows are better watched binge than in the weekly format. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | Snowpiercer being one of those because the characters, some of their visual styles are very similar and they don’t give you enough of them on screen to really remember who’s who unless you’re watching it one episode after the other. |
| Jon | Totally agree. Yep. |
| Mo | who |
| Mo | Yeah, good point. |
| George | ah |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | And I think Silo 2 might also kind of fit in that category. Now some of the characters are going to be completely new because you know we lost a lot of characters in that first season. |
| Mo | Oh yeah. |
| George | ah But I think it’s going to be um a lot of fun and I can’t wait to share it with my wife and my kid because we all three really enjoyed that series. |
| Mo | Absolutely. Oh, great show. |
| Jon | Cool. |
| George | John, I think the first thing you’re looking forward to is something my son has been looking forward to for about six months. |
| Jon | ah |
| George | I don’t know why you’re looking forward to it though. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | Cause you’re not a sports ball guy. |
| Jon | I know. Yeah. Well, the first thing on my list is the the Mike Tyson fight with Logan Paul, Tyson versus Paul. And you’re right. I’m not a big sports fan. November 15th is going to be on Netflix, but Mike Tyson holds a special place for me. |
| George | Mmm. |
| Jon | I watched every Mike Tyson fight with my dad. |
| Mo | Uh, Oh, I remember. |
| Jon | And some of them only lasted 30 seconds. I mean, it didn’t take long. |
| George | Oh yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. Yeah. |
| Jon | The undercard was all the anticipation. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Then he came out and just whipped your ass and he were done. |
| Mo | yeah |
| Jon | um But and just seeing him fight again, I’m kind of scared for him. I relate to him. He’s an older guy, way past his prime, but he’s going back to try to yeah |
| Mo | Yeah. Yeah. |
| Jon | I, I, it’s, it’s, I’m fascinated. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | I don’t know which way it’s going to go, but I, it’s, it’s, well, maybe it’s a morbid curiosity. |
| George | I. |
| Jon | Like what’s going to happen. |
| George | I feel like it’s a George Foreman kind of moment. |
| Mo | yeah |
| George | I mean, Tyson didn’t, he did, this is not his first fight in a lot of years. |
| Mo | Yep. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| George | Like he did a fight with Roy Jones Jr a few years ago. |
| Jon | No, no. Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | And Roy Jones Jr, one of the greatest boxers of all time, and he held his own in that fight. |
| Jon | ye Yep. Yep. |
| George | I got a feeling against a fucking YouTuber from Gen Z. |
| Mo | Good |
| George | He’s going to be okay. |
| Mo | point. |
| Jon | i I think he will too, but Logan Paul is not a slouch, but he’s kind of a showboat. He’s not a dedicated boxer, but he’s become. |
| George | I want him to break that little fucker in half. Please, Tyson. |
| Jon | but That’s what I want to see happen. That’s exactly what I want to see happen. |
| Mo | I’m with you. |
| George | Just break that little loud mouth piece of shit in half. |
| Mo | I’m with you on this. |
| George | That’s all. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | i The fucker has invaded my pro wrestling world. He’s every, I hate this fucking guy. |
| Jon | ah so Well, I hope Tyson makes it right for you. |
| George | Oh my God. |
| Jon | Yeah, I’m looking forward to seeing that. It’s been, it was it was postponed once and now it’s going to happen. So November 15th on Netflix. um Another thing just dropped, but I just found out about it. um You know, I love all the UFO cryptid Bigfoot garbage. |
| Jon | There’s a new series on Netflix, ah Investigation Alien. It’s a six part mini series. |
| George | Oh yeah. |
| Jon | And I always watch those when they come out. It’s full of the same stuff, but maybe like a brand new guy from the military is now speaking. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Let’s hear what he has to say. That’s a new series. Really fascinating. And then I am cautiously looking forward to a film where the early reviews have been terrible. |
| Jon | Red One. This is the the Christmas movie where Santa Claus gets abducted and Chris Evans is this great tracker and they recruit, they actually kidnap him to go and help find Chris Kringle who has been abducted. |
| Mo | Red one, red one. oh |
| Jon | And it’s in this world of magic and it it it looks it looks amazing. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| George | Okay. |
| Jon | I’ve heard reviews say it’s horrible. |
| George | All right. |
| Jon | I don’t care. I wanna see it. It looks funny. |
| George | Captain America saves Santa. I guess that’s a, ah, ah |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | That’s exactly right. |
| Mo | Or the human torch does. |
| Jon | You got it. And I think like, Lucy Liu is in it. ah It’s like a huge cast. |
| Mo | Jeez. |
| Jon | um Yeah, it’s, yeah. Look at the trailer and you’re like, this can’t miss. I need to read the reviews. are Like apparently it missed, but I want to see it anyway. |
| Mo | how can |
| Jon | So, yeah. |
| Mo | I see an idea, obviously I can think of many ways I could miss, but that’s okay. |
| Jon | Yeah, probably so. |
| Mo | We’ll see how it is. Oh man. Oh, that’s great. But um you guys know that, you know, we have lots of amazing patron members out there on Patreon at generousgroomup.com slash Patreon. |
| Jon | Mm, boy do we. |
| Mo | um And one of the benefits of being a member is that you get to ask us a question that we will answer right here on the show. |
| Jon | yeah |
| Mo | So this week’s question is from Frank. And I think because we talked about one part of so much, I can see why he kind of specified this. He said, Besides Star Trek, in all its forms, what was your favorite sci-fi TV show from the 70s and 80s? |
| Jon | Okay. |
| Mo | Because it Star Trek is slam dunk, right? That’s an easy one to pick. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | So I guess he’s saying what’s our second favorite, you know? |
| Jon | Oh, I know George’s. Yeah. Good. I know yours. |
| Mo | Oh, you know, what’s George’s? |
| Jon | Go ahead, George. |
| George | I, so I, I think I need to wait till last because we were talking a little bit about this on our private discord server before we recorded. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| Jon | Okay. |
| George | And I said, I think when you take Star Trek out of the equation, that only leaves like three or four choices total from the seventies and eighties TV series. |
| Jon | Yeah. See, I disagree. |
| Mo | No, I disagree with that too. |
| Jon | I think. |
| Mo | Yeah, I did i looked up some. |
| Jon | Yeah, okay, all right. |
| George | Well, maybe, but there’s, I mean, better favorites. |
| Jon | Yeah, okay, all right. |
| Mo | you so |
| George | I’m not saying there wasn’t a lot of sci-fi TV available, but that are favorites. |
| Mo | Okay, I’ll give you that one. |
| Jon | Okay, i’ll I’ll go first then. |
| Mo | All right. |
| Jon | George always likes to save himself for last, because he got a dramatic reveal, that’s fine. It’s gonna be Battlestar Galactica, it doesn’t matter. |
| Mo | Yeah, we all know that, but good. |
| George | Hey, I bring a panache to this show. |
| Jon | But, it’s not what we’re calling it now. |
| George | Alright, right fucker. |
| Mo | Is that what, I was gonna say same thing, is that what we’re calling it? I didn’t get the memo on that, okay. |
| Jon | Look, the only thing for me that has to have to be science fiction is something supernatural, something that is is fictional, something that ah might be fictional. |
| Mo | Yeah, super science kind of thing. |
| Jon | And we were just talking about investigation aliens. I would love for aliens to exist. I think that’s cool. So I’m going to pick the greatest American hero. He got his suit from aliens. |
| Jon | He has superpowers. I know you could say it’s really just a superhero show, but if you watch the whole series, he interacts with the aliens quite a bit. |
| Mo | No, no. |
| Jon | There’s a lot of supernatural alien stuff going on. So and plus, I didn’t want to steal Battlestar Galactica from George. I knew he was going to pick that. But really, I honestly enjoyed that more than I did BSG. |
| Jon | So I’m going to the greatest American hero. |
| Mo | Okay. Okay. So I’ll go next cause we’re saying George for last for the panache. |
| Jon | Panache. |
| Mo | Like we talked about, um, mine is probably quantum leap. |
| George | he |
| Mo | Um, that I love that show. |
| Jon | Sure. Oh, yeah. |
| Mo | Quantum Leap was a great show. I consider science fiction. |
| Jon | Was that the 90s? |
| George | Yeah, I don’t know that that’s 80s. |
| Mo | No, that was eighties. |
| Jon | Was 80s? |
| George | Was it 80s? |
| Jon | but but |
| Mo | Yeah. The first original show came out in the eighties, I think. |
| Jon | Okay. We’ll give it to you. That’s fine. That’s fine. |
| George | Well. |
| Jon | like Yeah. |
| Mo | You know, if not that I’ll pick Dr. Who, but I’ll say Quantum some Leap cause I was trying to change things up a little bit. |
| Jon | You’re okay. |
| Mo | Um, but yeah, but |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. |
| George | Yeah, I was I was shocked that Dr. Who didn’t just fall out of your mouth as you were reading the question. |
| Mo | It did several times, but I figured I’m trying to be not predictable here, so I’m trying to pick something different. But no, that was ah it was i said it wass a great show. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | it kept the reb I love the remake as well, so that would definitely be mine. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | it was just i said It’s definitely science fiction because there’s time travel and all that fun stuff involved. |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. |
| Mo | He had the weird plastic thing he carried around and hit buttons on that made no sense. |
| Jon | Yeah, I’d have to interject mo for for people. |
| George | he |
| Mo | but |
| Jon | the The modern quantum leaps, not a remake. It’s a continuation. |
| Mo | Oh, it’s a continuation, correct? |
| Jon | Yeah, yeah, which which is better, which is better. |
| Mo | It’s a continuation of the original story. Yeah, much better. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | So, George, what’s yours? |
| George | ah You know, honestly, since you guys didn’t go with any of the ones that were in my head, I’ve got a plethora to choose from. |
| Mo | He’s gonna change it now. |
| George | So I’m going to mention them all just because I think they’re all worthy of mentioning. I don’t give a shit that I only have to pick one, but, uh, I’m surprised neither of you thought of space 1999. I mean, when we’re thinking about science fiction, the shows you guys went with, I don’t consider them traditional science fiction. |
| Mo | That dude, that was on my list I was thinking about it. |
| George | Quantum leap is closer than, uh, John’s pick, but, um, ah Space 1999 is the first one. |
| Jon | Mm hmm. Yep. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | Right. Not traditional. |
| Mo | The greatest American hero. Yeah. |
| Jon | Yep. |
| Mo | I remember, yeah. |
| George | Of course, Battlestar Galactica, but i I know this is not maybe what you expected, but I think I’m going to go with Buck Rogers. |
| Jon | Yep. Yep. |
| Jon | like I kind of expected that too. |
| Mo | Okay. i I can see that. |
| Jon | That was my your that was my second pick for what you’d pick. |
| George | i I really liked Buck Rogers an awful lot. |
| Jon | Yeah, that’s my guess. |
| George | it’s I don’t know that it’s equal, in my opinion, to Battlestar Galactic as far as how much I loved it, but it got a second season and BSG didn’t. |
| Mo | Okay. |
| George | It got that creepy shitty 1980 thing that I don’t count. |
| Mo | Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| George | um but A lot of people don’t like season two of Buck Rogers. I kind of did. If for nothing else, the character of Hawkman was fucking awesome, had the best spaceship ever in science fiction, it feels like. |
| George | Um, but yeah, I, I kind of got to go with Buck Rogers, but there are a lot of things out there that that could be on the list. |
| Jon | They’re great picks, yeah. |
| Mo | Cool. |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. And I definitely expanded the definition of science fiction a bit, but yeah, that’s, it’s my answer by God. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | I’ll do it. What but might not have the panache of George, but it’s my answer. |
| George | he |
| Mo | Yeah. That’s true. And say and i I was considering space 1999 actually. I was laughing on my list, but but yeah, I just, and the quantum leap came out 89 by the way, I just double checked. |
| Jon | Yeah. Yeah. |
| George | Yeah. |
| Mo | So it barely makes it. |
| Jon | Yeah. |
| Mo | um |
| Jon | It does. Yeah. |
| Mo | So but anyway, thanks. Those are great answers and thanks for a great question. So again, if you want your question read here on the show, super easy, go to patreon.com slash genics grown up, become a member for as little as a buck a month, you know, whatever you can afford, you know, we’re not trying to break anyone’s bank here, you know, but any support you can give us is always welcome and helpful. |
| Jon | Mm-hmm easy. Yeah |
| Jon | That was a great question. Thank you, Frank. We appreciate you. we play straight We appreciate all of our patrons. And I want to thank a couple more patrons who have joined us recently. ah Headed over just like Frank did to genexgrownup.com slash Patreon, got out their wallet, set up an account for a dollar a month, $3 a month, whatever. |
| Mo | Ha ha ha! |
| Jon | These are the people that literally make this show continue to happen and keep Gen X grown up running. And I’d like to welcome Matt M to our roster of amazing supporters, as well as Kevin H, who you remember at the top of the show. |
| Jon | That was our fourth listener who wrote in the the email about Satanic Panic and the the demonic Smurfs, right? |
| Mo | Nice. Yeah. |
| Jon | So. Thank you, Kevin and Matt, for joining us. Among several others, we’ll get to you as we run through. We have so many new supporters. We love you for that. You’re joining a crew of fantastic people that engage with us over on Discord. And we love that you’re here and love that you support us. Thank you so much. That then is going to wrap it up for this edition of the Gen X Grown Up podcast. Don’t worry though, if you were worried, we’ll be back in two weeks with another one. But next week, that’s our backtrack where we pick a single nostalgic topic and dig in deep. |
| Jon | Mo, would you like the honors of telling the fourth listener what they can look forward to and next week? |
| Mo | Oh, absolutely. So 50 years ago, if you can believe it, piano man, Billy Joel was released. |
| George | Mm. |
| Jon | Ooh, man. |
| Mo | I know. Isn’t that crazy? Um, you know, ah that’s, I mean, that whole, that year, 50 years ago, he was on the charts the entire year with this album. |
| Jon | me |
| Mo | It’s a great album and we’re going to go through it track by track and talk about how just what we think of it. |
| Jon | Yep. |
| Jon | Oh, this music, those album backtracks have become a lot of fun. I look forward to those. |
| Mo | Yeah. |
| Jon | I know listeners do too. And I’ve been, I’ve been listening to a lot of piano man getting ready. |
| Mo | 50 years ago, though. |
| Jon | All right. I know. I know. Right. I hope you will join us for that one until then. I am John George. Thank you so much for being here. |
| George | Yes, sir. |
| Jon | Mo, you know, I appreciate you fourth listener. |
| Mo | Always fun, man. |
| Jon | It’s you though. We all appreciate most of all, and we cannot wait to talk to you again next time. Bye bye. |
| George | See you guys. |
| Mo | Take care, everybody. |
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