Golden Axe, Goldenmate UPS, & Wing Commander: Prophecy

November 12, 2026

By Mo

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We return to the theatre to see the latest exploits of Mo’s favorite kaiju, test drive a deceptively-simple gaming controller option for your mobile phone, and play an incremental card pack-opening simulator designed to keep you clicking.

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Golden Axe » youtu.be/sStbBtfGaLA?si=kXtXxPqJCReOkzai
Godzilla Minus Zero » youtu.be/pWJjYoqVSjQ?si=9RC8zZ2mt_IKN6Hz
Capturing Bigfoot » youtu.be/TDlKqjOfuZw?si=lFDJkylnl-B3xf-O
meross Smart Garage Door Opener » www.amazon.com/clp/B084Z5QZR2?tag=genxgrownup-20
Goldenmate Battery-Backup UPS » link.amazon/B011dd14y
Yoniq Game Patch » www.yoniq.games/products/yoniq-gray-pocket-gaming-controller-turn-your-phone-into-a-handheld-console-anytime-anywhere
Quarantine Zone » store.steampowered.com/app/3419520/Quarantine_Zone_The_Last_Check/
Wing Commander Prophecy » www.gog.com/en/game/wing_commander_prophecy_30th_anniversary_edition
Crack the Pack » store.steampowered.com/app/4614210/Crack_the_Pack/
The Hunger Games Sunrise on the Reaping » youtu.be/fS35YSjopjE?si=zOX20DIcj8CFrjHa
Blade Runner 2099 » youtu.be/1d4x_eSdqNc?si=a1fGcYVeNbzcTIsP
Allen » youtu.be/P8G5Y25W3eA?si=ykR-YRGXZj_ju8ku
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Transcript

Jon	Welcome back, Gen X Grown-Up Podcast listener to this episode 219 of the Gen X Grown-Up Podcast.
Jon	I’m Jon, joining me as always, of course, my buddy Mo. Hey, Mo.
Mo	Hey, how’s it going?
Jon	Good. Good. Would not be a show without George. Hey, George.
George	Hey, how’s it going everybody?
Jon	In this episode, we return to the theater to see the latest exploits of Moe’s favorite kaiju. Test drive a deceptively simple gaming controller option for your mobile phone and play an incremental card pack opening simulator designed to keep you clicking.
Mo	mm-hmm
Jon	And that’s exactly what it does.
Mo	Hmm.
Jon	We have those topics and many more coming your way in this episode. But first. It’s time for some fourth listener email. This time around, we have email from fourth listener Vern, longtime listener and supporter of the channel.
Mo	Oh, yeah. yeah
Jon	ah Vern contacts us. Vern Cock… Boop. Vern contacted us via Patreon about the Run DMC Raising Hell backtrack.
Jon	Yeah. So let’s see what he says. Thanks guys for covering this album. I’m in the same camp as George on this one. I knew of the band and the album, but I never owned the album. So I was pleasantly surprised at how many of the songs I recognized.
Jon	Yeah, I do consider myself quite the Beastie Boys fan, but I was never a big fan of their first album, which I think was similar to Raising Hell. If I remember correctly, both albums were produced by the same guy. I think that’s correct.
Jon	ah My appreciation for the Beastie Boys came from their later albums when they were doing more of their own thing and not following in the exact direction of other bands like Run DMC. In my opinion, the Beastie Boys’ second LP, Paul’s Boutique, great album, is very underrated and underappreciated.
Mo	hehehehehehe
Jon	And the third, Check Your Head, is phenomenal. So I think both of these bands found their groove. by their third albums.
George	So, so Vern just wanted to, he just tacked onto to the raising hell and just wanted to talk about Beastie Boys for a while.
Jon	If you ever want to…
Jon	He’s like
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Speaking of Run DMC…
George	Apparently we need to do a Beastie Boys podcast.
Mo	ah
Jon	That’s right. that’s yeah Fair enough.
Mo	oh Oh, here it is right there.
Jon	ah
Mo	Dead.
Jon	Yeah, he even says if you ever want to do a Beastie Boys episode, I would love to be the number one fourth listener and join in.
George	Oh!
George	Oh, Lord.
Jon	Love your show Vern.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Yeah. Ha!
Jon	Yep.
George	Oh my goodness.
Jon	Yeah. I’m a Beastie Boys fan as well. I’m a bigger fan of the Beasties and than I am of Run DMC. Although Run DMC is kind of like on the route Rushmore. of kind of like early hip-hop for me whereas bc boys i just love their music i don’t think they’re I don’t want to anger Vern.
Jon	I don’t think they’re as… revolutionary as Run DMC was, but…
Mo	Okay.
Jon	Definitely. Definitely, um definitely a great band. Okay, well. I’ll stop crapping on Vern’s parade here and I’ll say thank you for, for your.
George	ah
Jon	for your fourth listener email. We love that you listened. We love that you wrote in and tell us what you thought about it. If you would like your email featured here on the show, it’s drop dead easy. Just hit us up at podcast at genxgrownup .com.
Jon	Read every single one, and most of them, like Vern’s. eventually make the show. Okay. With that good business in the rearview mirror, it’s time to jump into the body of episode 219 right after this very quick. brick.
Jon	It’s time to get the ball rolling with the meat of the show, talking about media we have been enjoying, as we always do here at the front of the show. It could be ah film or… television or comics or music or podcasts or whatever it is you’re enjoying. And I’m going to start with you, George. What have you been checking out since we last spoke?
George	well i’ve been checking out three adventurers on a cartoon quest to save their world I’ve been watching golden acts.
Jon	Okay. Uh, yeah.
Mo	oh
George	So… It’s… A really. funny tongue-in-cheek take on the video game video game is iconic of course from
Mo	Yeah.
George	our era I love it but
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	It features all three of the main characters, but one in particular is kind of the main of the three. So Gilius Thunderhead, that’s the dwarf.
Jon	Mhm.
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	And then you’ve got Axe Battler, who…
Jon	hmm
George	Yes. carrying a sword of all things.
Jon	Right, not an X.
George	And.
Mo	ah
George	Tyrese flair. That’s the female warrior. Um, they’re all great, but then they have a couple of other supporting characters, mainly this one character named Hampton squib.
George	Who is voiced by Danny Pudi. And. I know him from Mythic Quest. You guys remember?
Jon	Oh yeah, yeah.
George	that show he was the guy who was like
Mo	Yeah, yeah.
George	Trying to. just only focused on the monetary aspect of everything and try.
Mo	Oh, yeah.
Jon	Yep.
George	Yeah. So. He’s really good in this. There’s also a couple of others. There’s like this um humanoid panther character that gets introduced because. Axe and Tyrus separate. from Gilius and so they go off on their way and they add this cat character to their trio party and then Gilius and Squibb They end up going off on their own way because Gilius, of course, wants to prove that he’s a better adventurer.
George	than the other two are.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	and It’s just really, really funny. X-Battler, I found it interesting. That guy is voiced by the same actor who played the second Spartacus, not the gentleman who died, obviously, but the guy who played Spartacus in the whole.
George	Stars Spartacus series.
Jon	Uh huh. Yep.
George	Yeah, so he’s he’s playing Axe Balor.
Jon	Yep.
George	He does a great job. The Tyrus Flair voice actress, tremendous. The writing. is hilarious oh my god every single thing you could think of that you would make fun of They beat you to it.
Mo	Okay.
George	they They make fun of their own environment. Everything from the narrator who starts off every show and then every now and then jumps in in the middle of an episode. One of the one the last episodes, he’s…
George	every time you remember from golden axe you always see the map the hand-drawn Well, they have that in the show.
Jon	Mm-hmm Yeah, a quill. yeah
George	Oh. he’s talking about how the bad guy is going around and he’s like Oh my God, he’s burned up my map. That was my only copy, damn it.
Jon	ah
George	so Listen. Funny, funny little stuff.
Jon	Like self-referential humor, it sounds like.
George	self-referential very much so uh characters are great um every episode is funny they’re 22 minutes long it’s an easy binge over a weekend if you choose to watch it and i highly recommend that you do it was
Mo	yeah
Jon	Ah.
Mo	Okay.
Jon	That’s cool.
George	It was just one of those nice little. Oh, look at this come out of nowhere kind of TV shows that I hope does well enough to.
Jon	It was.
George	warrant a second season just because the writing was so good.
Mo	Okay.
Jon	Is it kind of ah like I watched just a little bit of the beginnings to see the animation style to see, what but I didn’t.
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	watch a whole episode yet. um is there is what i saw so far was gags admittedly i watched the first minute maybe right is there a I mean, that’s okay if this is what it is, but is there like a story you’re following or is it really just enjoying the gags?
George	Yeah. No, no, the the through line of the story is exactly what I explained. It’s Gilius and Hampton Squibb.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	They’re trying to. ah They’re trying to beat the other group. to the bad guy so that they can save the world.
Jon	The death adder they’re trying to get the death adder like the yeah, okay, okay
George	Yeah, Death Adder. Yeah. So they’re trying to. They’re trying to get to him. So that they can prove that they’re better event. Like Hampton Squibb is trying to become an adventure and he’s just enamored with the other three.
George	They’re like his heroes and he wants to become a hero.
Jon	Okay. All right.
George	um But of course, he’s very ineffectual. He ends up becoming, quote, the chosen one who gets the Emerald Blade. And every time the Emerald Blade is mentioned, somebody starts singing the Emerald Blade.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	ah
George	and It’s…
Jon	All right.
George	It’s just really funny, funny stuff.
Jon	Yeah.
George	i mean It… It has a nice little… undercurrent of humanity as well because of course you know gillius is like this guy who he’s very insecure and wants to prove his worth even though he is considered one of the three greatest heroes of the realm uh axe battler is literally the dumbest adventurer on the planet.
Jon	yeah He’s just beefcake.
George	Just… Yeah, like…
Jon	ah
George	One of the episodes toward the end, there’s this part where he is convinced that he and Tyrus are married, even though it was just a stunt that they did in another adventure to get somebody and kill him or something.
Jon	Oh.
George	And she’s like, no, we were never married.
Mo	oh geez
Jon	The dumb hunk.
George	that She ends up having to carry him out of the room that they’re in. And he’s like, oh, my God, it’s just like our honeymoon.
Mo	oh ge
George	Just.
Jon	ah Very thick.
George	It’s just so funny.
Jon	Mmm.
George	Yeah. Really good show.
Jon	Mm. Okay.
George	i Cannot recommend it enough. If you’ve got What is that like? Five hours to spare? Sometime. Cause it’s 10 episodes.
Jon	Over time.
George	I think 22 minutes a piece.
Jon	Stretch it out. Yeah. Yep.
Mo	oh
George	it’s well worth your time
Mo	Okay.
Jon	Okay.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Golden axe. I was curious. Yeah.
Mo	Yeah, me too.
Jon	All right. Thanks.
George	Moe? The one that you want to talk about on the list is one that I know you were looking forward to.
Mo	Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
George	I know you looked forward to.
Mo	Yeah.
George	The other number that was on the number scale that now they keep changing.
Mo	Yes.
George	So minus one, now it’s minus zero. Next, it’s going to be minus negative one, then negative two.
Mo	Yep. Could be. I don’t know.
George	Yeah, we’ll figure it all out as we go.
Jon	That’s plus one. Those those cancel.
Mo	That’s plus one. Yeah, that’d be plus one
George	yeah
Jon	oh
Mo	So, yep. ah Yeah, was it’s Godzilla minus zero. um the sequel to godzilla minus one
Jon	Mmm.
Mo	I… Absolutely love Godzilla minus one. I thought it was like. You know, they. They you were able to take a Godzilla movie. With a real story.
George	Mm.
Mo	you know, With a… with characters they cared about you know they actually cared what happened to these people um and turned this put out a really great movie so everyone has very high expectations for the second one obviously, you know.
Mo	Same director, same writer. Same team. And this one actually takes place, I think, just… Four years, two or four years later than the last one. So it takes place like very quickly afterwards.
Jon	Okay.
George	Okay.
Mo	And it’s still, you know, Japan’s still trying to recover, not just from World War II now, but also Godzilla. Um,
Jon	you know monsters
Mo	Yeah, monsters. and there’s a new monster introduced in this one um so again i’m not gonna do a big spoiler but if If you looked at all in any internet, you’ll see what it is.
Mo	But the thing is that it’s, you know… Date. And they kept the same characters too. All the same characters from the first movie are in the second movie.
George	That’s what I was going to ask. Okay.
Mo	Yep, all the same characters. I think just one person was missing and I could see why because he really didn’t fit into the plot. anymore you know
Jon	Cool.
Mo	Um, And. It’s… ah i To me, personally, I think it was as good as the first one. You know?
Jon	Okay. That’s high praise.
Mo	It’s… It starts. Crazy right off the bat. it just starts just nuts, you know, with a town getting destroyed and, you know, and the way they did it, like, you know, the Godzilla movies, you’ve seen all the original ones where you’re like town gets destroyed and you’re like, okay, whatever.
Mo	Right. Ooh, look at my little train. um
Jon	but
Mo	This one though, it’s like. You’re… Like. There. Like, right right there. The way they filmed it. You know. These giant feet-like footprints just come crashing through and destroying buildings next to you.
Mo	You’re seeing people getting…
Jon	don like like you’re Like you’re in the street, a ground level kind of.
Mo	like you’re in the street ground level seeing this thing you know and this way it starts to be super super intense
Jon	Mm.
Mo	They pulled. A credible story. out of this, you know, which is like, huh, which actually fixes a kind of a plot hole from the first movie, which when you see it, you’ll understand.
George	Hmm.
Jon	Okay.
Jon	Oh. That’s smart.
Mo	Oh. But the, uh… Yo. And the same character, like the the main guy who pilot who decided not to kamikaze. He’s…
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	in this one too and he’s also still one of the main characters but you know now he’s not worried so much about Um… loss of honor and being a coward and all that stuff.
Mo	Now his whole thing is protecting his family. You know.
George	ah
Mo	You know, that’s not his story.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	You know, his story is no longer about that whole other thing. He’s past that now. Now he has a wife. He has a kid from the first movie. um And now his whole thing is like, she you know. he has to go help and he’s like she’s like Well, you’re just.
Mo	You have a family now. You can’t go help. Yo. You can’t just run off like you did last time.
Jon	No.
Mo	And he’s like… I’m just going to consult. You know how that turns out. You know how that turns out, right? You know, I’m just going to get my expertise from the last time and, you know.
Jon	that’s all yeah It’s just the weekend.
Mo	You know what happens.
Jon	Then I’ll be back.
Mo	Yep.
Jon	right
George	ah
Mo	And so it becomes the whole thing of like, and then his wife actually has to get involved as well. And so this this whole thing is like. You know, if we both die, then no one is here for the kid. I mean, that’s, you know, it’s ah that’s like kind of the main.
Jon	here
Mo	thrusts throughout the whole thing was that kind of relationships. Great movie. ending not quite the same tearjerker as the first one like the first one you’re like wow you know this one though At the end, you’re like.
Mo	If you don’t do. What? I think you should do. I’m going to hate this movie.
Jon	he
Mo	and And they do it. So you’re like, oh, okay, good.
George	Okay.
Mo	Thank you. Thank God.
Jon	Okay. Yep.
Mo	It’s like, because I was getting ready to be really upset.
Jon	ah
George	So they pay it off the right way.
Mo	Yeah, they totally paid it off the right way.
Jon	Good. Good.
Mo	um And the great thing is that even though it had like a much bigger budget. Then they gave the first one. It… The guy didn’t waste it. Like he didn’t do these huge special effects anymore. He didn’t try to do the, you know, like he didn’t. spend that he didn’t spend the money on that part because that wasn’t needed the way he did the first movie was fine You know?
Mo	um I’m not sure what.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	he spent the extra money on maybe his own salary i don’t know but but
Jon	Well…
Mo	it would But.
Jon	He made a money. So why not?
Mo	Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And ah a great movie. I said it’s it’s one I’m probably going to go see in a theater again. Like it did the first one.
Jon	Hmm.
Mo	you know because i saw an imax Definitely the way to go if you can if you can see it that way.
Jon	Wow, I bet.
Mo	It’s like. 60 something percent of it is IMAX. Like with full screen, like it takes the full screen.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	Because a lot of IMAX movies actually only very small parts are like. take advantage of the whole thing, which is kind of weird.
George	ah
Mo	But this one actually, he said they filmed it knowing it was going to be IMAX 2. So is that it? Great movie. I enjoyed it a lot. Like I said, I’m going to go see it again for sure. And if you love the first one, you’ll like this one as well.
Jon	yeah well you’re the critic who i will listen to on this sort of movie yeah so good to know
Mo	Yeah. Yep. Oh great. Fight. Great monster fight. amazing monster fight in this too so
Jon	What? Is it a kaiju movie if you don’t have monster fights?
Mo	Well, monster versus monster fight, though.
George	Right, I mean…
Mo	So that’s they didn’t have that last time.
Jon	Okay, not just monster monster fighting people or monster fighting train.
Mo	Must’ve, yeah.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Yeah, monster fighting. Other monster. Totally. It was like. intense, brutal… Out. It was great. there’s It pays off everything that you expect from the movie.
Jon	good Wow.
Mo	So.
Jon	High praise.
Mo	Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, John, ah the title doesn’t surprise me, of what you saw.
Jon	Mm-hmm
George	Right, yeah
Jon	Okay.
Mo	but I don’t know what this is.
Jon	Yeah. Yeah.
Mo	I’ve never heard of this one.
George	It’s… It definitely is on brand.
Jon	Okay, yeah.
Mo	Oh, yeah, for sure.
Jon	It is. Yeah. Well, I figure we’d move from a fictional monster. to a real life monster. in a film that I watched.
George	yeah No, you still didn’t do that.
Jon	Cold.
Mo	Yeah, ah what?
Jon	So the new documentary. documentary called capturing bigfoot it is a documentary quit it
Mo	ah
Mo	Yeah. With quotes, air quotes documentary.
George	I create a documentary about me being seven foot tall.
Jon	No, it’s…
George	It don’t make it true.
Jon	That’s… Well, if you can get it released, maybe. so No, this is a documentary. It’s called Capturing Bigfoot. And you guys, non-believers, will enjoy this, maybe. I think you’ll quite enjoy it. so It all circles around, not just…
Jon	the legend or the myth or whatever the cryptid bigfoot but it’s really specifically about The 1967… Patterson Gimlin film. But what you all know.
Mo	Yeah, we walking down this the stream bed.
Jon	The 60 seconds of shaky cam.
George	Right.
Jon	walking right down the riverbed.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	That’s right. it’s It’s the one that you get the… the signature, you’re looking over her shoulder, you know, with her arms slung back and her, yeah.
Mo	Do the whoop whoop whoop, yeah.
George	Right.
Jon	So that film, that film, it was filmed by Roger Patterson. He he was actually out on a Bigfoot hunting. journey with his buddy, Bob Gimlin. Uh, I think it’s his name. any Patterson Gimlin. This film has been out there and it’s been people been trying to debunk it for.
Jon	Almost 60 years now.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	Next year will be 60 years this film came out. And so when first word of this documentary, yes, came out, uh, they didn’t really, it went around to film festivals for a while, but didn’t get wide release until now, but it’s out now.
Jon	What everyone said was. This film… is going to finally debunk the Patterson-Gimlin film and prove without a doubt.
Mo	Oh really?
Jon	that that was a scam.
Mo	Huh.
Jon	A hoax. A falsehood. Uh, So I would say the first half of this movie. incredibly fascinating. It’s about… how that film came to be.
Jon	who the people were behind it. ah Patterson was such a scam artist.
Mo	Hmm.
Jon	the Just a sample. so he He filmed? The camera he shot that on? He rented. and didn’t return. and was fined.
George	Yeah.
Jon	He was known for even well before this film came out, he was known on a tour. He was writing books about does the American Sasquatch exist? He was he was all about. studying and trying to prove Bigfoot existed well before this film. So you could say as this kind of known Showboat.
Jon	Kind of. Barnum and Bailey sort of guide that. He had. he was the kind of guy who would fake this film If someone were to, right.
Mo	Right.
Jon	And so they kind of, you talk to all the… the regular people, you know, in the world of of Sasquatch and people you interview, you see in all these documentaries and you can feel what they’re doing. They go throughout it. They’re talking to them.
Jon	And one of the guys even says, I feel like you’re setting me up. Like at the end of this interview, you’re going to try to turn the tables on me, which is kind of what they do at each interview. What they have come across, what someone has delivered to the makers of this film.
Jon	is a new piece of film. that purports to show… the dress rehearsal. for the Patterson-Gimlin film.
George	ah The dress rehearsal.
Mo	Okay.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Now. There’s a lot of… i won’t go this I won’t make this the Bigfoot episode. There’s so many things about it. You cannot… What everyone’s saying in the headline is. finally debunks it.
Jon	ah Well, first, in my heart, I don’t want it debunked, but I’m aware of that bias, right?
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	That bias. But also… i’ve I’ve watched people analyzing this documentary and that footage. There are so many things. Because A and B are in the same room and A is true and B is false, it doesn’t make them both true or both false.
Jon	So there are similarities and differences.
George	yeah i think By definition. you’re You just said because A is true and B is false. It doesn’t make them both true and both false. Yeah, we you just established one is true and one is false.
Jon	Exactly. But that’s what people are trying to say. If they say that this film is true and this one is false and they’re similar. Does that make, oh, now they both must be one thing?
George	So there’s two Bigfoot films that they’re putting next to each other, showing one is correct and one is false.
Jon	That’s exactly my point. you’re
Jon	Well, one is the one we have all been unable to debunk for 60 years. And here’s this other one that’s very clearly not footage of a Sasquatch. It’s clearly a person in a suit, but it’s a different suit. It’s a different place. And we cannot even prove whether this was shot before.
Jon	or after.
Mo	Oh, okay.
Jon	So… Perhaps he was.
George	So this is the… the theoretical dress rehearsal film.
Jon	Theoretically.
Mo	Theoretical, okay
Jon	It could also be they were thinking about shooting another one to further their…
George	Okay.
Jon	They’re. their prestige and and it didn’t work well it could But it it could also be, I’m a realist, it could be that it was a fake all this time and just all these coincidences fell. Whether it’s true or false, whether it debunks the film or not is…
Jon	largely irrelevant. What’s more fascinating to me is first, finally having a full picture of how That. famous. They say it is the most famous piece of cinema verite, second only to the Zabruder film.
Mo	Just thinking about that.
Jon	of the Kennedy assassination.
George	Not the Loch Ness Monster.
Jon	It is the single.
George	Huh.
Jon	Great. No, no, that’s just a a photo. That’s not a film Yeah.
George	Oh, that’s true. I thought there was.
Jon	Yeah. Yep.
George	Okay.
Jon	yeah Anyway. The fact that there’s… something that’s been part of our lives, our entire lives, even Mo’s entire life.
Mo	Yeah, even mine.
George	ah
Jon	This is what… All of our lives.
Mo	Barely, but yes, barely.
George	Yeah.
Jon	And now… 60 years later, there’s a new piece of evidence to the puzzle. to study and analyze and it’s it’s i’ve watched this documentary like three times it’s really entertaining and it’s really well put together it’s not just a hatchet job necessarily the the filmmaker clearly has a motive But he also doesn’t cheat.
Jon	He shows all the evidence and he he decides he thinks that what it means and it’s up to us to decide. so Capturing Bigfoot.
Mo	Okay.
Jon	I think it’s on Amazon Prime now or wherever else you can find it. i Whether you’re a Bigfoot fan or not, a fan, believer, whatever, it’s worth watching just for the information about historical fact.
George	I mean, you say that he, uh, that you feel like he doesn’t cheat and he shows his work and whatnot. I think that’s evidenced by something you said earlier, where he has one of the interview subjects and the interview subject at one point says, I feel like you’re trying to set me up that you’re going to turn this around.
Jon	Yep. yep
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	Documentarians notoriously. cut those interviews left right and center so him showing that part
Jon	Right.
George	that allows him to… build up. his Honesty. In your eyes?
Jon	His resume for integrity.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George	i that’s That’s a smart piece of manipulation. If he is fake or if he’s being honest, that’s a great thing to be.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	in You never know which one it is because you’re not seeing every single inch of every single piece of footage that he shot.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	I’m assuming because the document.
Jon	No, of course.
George	It’s not like seven hours long or anything, but.
Jon	It’s edited. Right. i’d watch it
George	uh Hey. It’s funny to hear you talking about it. Because you’re such a believer.
Jon	Mm.
George	And you’re so pro Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, all that stuff.
Jon	Hmm?
George	the thing that he’s doing on one side of the coin is the thing you’re doing now on the other side of the coin just a little bit but it you’re both acknowledging he acknowledged it with that statement being allowed into his documentary and you’re acknowledging your bias here while you’re talking about it it’s interesting to see that both of you are acknowledging your biases
Jon	mm-hmm
George	and allowing people to see behind the curtain, so to speak.
Jon	You have to, yeah.
George	Yeah. it’s I mean, I still think You’re full of crap.
Jon	Yeah.
George	There’s no Bigfoot, but that’s okay.
Mo	ah
Jon	I understand why you believe that I do.
George	yeah
Jon	ah Well, you know, and and two… I think that’s that’s something, you know, we talked about in our ah our panel at Long Island Retro about. There’s one thing about having an opinion. But there’s another thing, being willing to change your opinion when new evidence comes in.
Jon	and you know i think we are we are some people are just they believe this and don’t care
George	Sure.
George	Yeah.
Jon	I very, very much care. I want to know more. you know and so i
George	Yeah.
Jon	I’m willing to have my beliefs broken If there’s evidence to prove it one way or the other, I’m okay with that because I really want to be i want to understand fully.
George	Yeah.
Jon	so
George	Yeah. 20 year old me.
Jon	oh
George	Wasn’t interested in understanding. 55-year-old me is interested in understanding because that’s all I’ve got now.
Jon	Much more so. Hmm.
Mo	yeah
Jon	I got the understanding. All right, cool. All right, stick around. We’ll be right back with some tech and toys.
Mo	ah right Tech and Toys. Five four three
Mo	Okay, so I’m gonna kick off Tekken Toys today with… Something that’s just… Bugs suck. be jeebus out of me and that’s when
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Apps. or something you buy, nickel and dime you. After the fact.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	Ah. Okay.
Mo	Okay. It just pisses me off.
Jon	Yep.
Mo	So.
Jon	Hmm.
Mo	I bought a, this is a long time ago. I bought like a garage door opener automatics. I could use my phone to open the garage and close, you know, that kind of thing.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	An app for it. And so I was like, cool. You know. I was like, oh, I was trying to figure out why I couldn’t get Apple cart. CarPlay to work with it. Yeah. Um, It turns out that…
Mo	They actually, in order to make it work. With Apple CarPlay. You have to subscribe to some so service. for like 10 bucks a month.
George	ah
Jon	Whoa, to open your garage door?
Mo	Just to open your f freaking garage door And I was like, I said, oh, screw this.
George	Yeah.
Mo	I said, I’m going to find.
George	People have been opening in their garage doors since 1957.
Mo	Yeah, it’s like. You know, I was just looking at it just as a convenience, but I’m like, screw this.
George	Yeah.
Mo	I said, that’s that’s just. Bus is bullshit. Let’s steal a phrase from ah George over here. and
Jon	there you go just trademark
Mo	Yeah.
George	All right.
Mo	So I went looking for a different one. And I found one on Amazon, of course, is from a company called Meross, M-E-R-O-S-S. And they have a smart garage door opener.
Mo	works with A whole bunch of different types of garage doors, like pretty much every major brand. Works automatically with CarPlay. No, nothing special you have to buy with it. Works with Google Apps. Works with the… you know, the Alexas and all that stuff.
Mo	Out of the box. It works with all of that.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Okay.
Mo	And so. I installed it and… Sure as hell. It worked right out of the box. Matter of fact, on my phone, you could do, you know how you put like gadgets on your phone? like like quick hits to like do so widgets is that kind of thing it came with a widget
George	widgets and stuff yeah
Jon	Like widgets.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	So I have a widget and right in front of my phone.
Jon	Okay, that’s handy.
Mo	Open the garage door. Hit the button and close my garage door. works really well. Wasn’t super expensive. ah The installation is a little bit more. a little bit more involved than the other one.
Mo	The other one just basically operated like another garage door opener. The one original one I had, it just sets a signal and just did that.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	This one, you actually have to kind of wire into your garage door, which, but it took me like 10 minutes. It wasn’t hard, but it is a little bit extra work you have to do and it works well.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	I was very pleased with it.
Jon	So I see in the description. It is a smart garage door opener.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	What is smart about it? Aside from, I mean, there’s a smart, the connectivity to your, your house or whatever is it have.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Is that smart? Does that imply any other intelligence like ah so sensing a car or the cameras or stuff like that?
Mo	Yeah. Well, well it well it it does know when it’s open and closed.
Jon	What else does it do smartly?
Mo	It does sense that. ah It can send you messages.
Jon	Right.
Mo	of Garage door open closes.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	It can send you a warning if your garage door is open longer than a certain time that you set.
Jon	Oh I need that. yeah
Mo	You know, if garage doors open longer than 15 minutes and even has a thing that if it’s open past a certain time.
Jon	Right.
Mo	He’ll close it.
Jon	Just shut it.
Mo	It was just shut it.
Jon	Oh, that’s cool.
Mo	So you can sit for like midnight.
Jon	That’s cool.
Mo	If this door is open, just shut it. you know and that’s
Jon	right like i took the trash can out and forgot kind of thing yeah yeah
Mo	And forgot.
George	Yeah, trap the burglar inside with me.
Mo	Yep.
George	There you go.
Mo	Exactly.
Jon	Oh shit. He’s run for it.
George	Yeah.
Jon	He’s doing the Indiana Jones under the.
Mo	Trying to slide, grabs his hat.
George	Yeah.
Mo	um
Jon	Throw me the idol!
Mo	but But that’s about it. Nothing else besides that. I mean, some pretty basic stuff.
Jon	Okay. Okay, that’s far.
Mo	But to say the truth, though, like just having that…
Jon	So that’s fair.
Mo	At 15 minutes, just send me a little message on my phone that, hey, your garage door’s been open for 20 minutes. Just just so you know you know.
Jon	That’s cool. i like I do like that.
Mo	Just so you know. you know So it was pretty cool.
Jon	he
George	Yeah, i for me, I was kind of I was. you’ve you’ve kind of already talked me out of my question a little bit because I was like, why do you need more than the little RF button that we’ve all had?
Jon	Mmm.
George	clipped to the little sun visor or some cars even i remember in the 80s and 90s some cars would come with a garage door opener built in that you could program to your frequency or whatever i
Mo	Mm hmm.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Mm hmm. Yep.
George	I know those things can be hacked a little bit easier than probably the thing you have, but all the other features that you mentioned as you were going through that, I kind of get why you would need it. Did you say how much it costs?
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	No, I didn’t actually. I’m trying to remember actually.
Jon	Yeah. Oh, before you tell us, before you tell us. So he was bucking the system at $10 a month. Let’s see what he’s willing to spend to save $10 a month.
Mo	Oh, it was 50 bucks.
George	Okay, so five months it’s paid for.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Okay. Yeah. All right. That’s fair.
Mo	Which I thought was i thought that was a decent price.
Jon	I like that.
George	Well, the other one was $10 a month for the service plus whatever you paid for it.
Mo	plus oh yeah and i paid at least 60 bucks i think for the last one i had too so
George	Oh wow.
Jon	Oh, oh, that plus the service.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Okay.
Jon	if Okay, I get you.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Yeah.
Mo	and And again, and just just the annoyance of…
Jon	Yep.
Mo	Oh, you’re going to buy this thing? Oh, you want to use it in your car? Well.
Jon	but
Mo	If you want that.
George	ah Oh!
Mo	You know? Yo.
George	You would like to close your garage door.
Mo	Yeah. while you’re While you’re in your car and not have to look through your phone, you know.
George	ahha
Jon	Yeah. It includes the open package if you’d like to upgrade to closing.
George	um
Mo	It’s closing in.
Mo	so so last i and actually ah So John, I see what you have i get on here, and I’m very interested in this.
George	I am too. Yeah.
Jon	Yeah. Yeah. So it’s an uninterruptible power supply, a UPS, you know, the battery backup thing.
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	I have had… a really good battery backup for a long time but and i’ve had it like like i’m talking like 12 years. I’ve had this battery back up.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	Really good one by a company called Triplight.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	Look. When I bought it, it was like 90 bucks. And now that company, they make $300 UPS. Things have gotten so much more expensive and the battery components and everything. but After all this time…
Jon	It started. flaking out on me. I was…
George	Okay.
Jon	ah I was in the middle of a live stream and just everything shut off and came right back on. no There was no power hit. Just the UPS decided to take a shit for a second and come back.
Mo	Oh.
George	Wow
Jon	it It didn’t like not withstand a power hit. It just said, oh, I hiccuped. Right. So I’m like, well, that’s a weird anomaly. Let’s keep an eye on that. Well, i’ve it did it two more times. And I’m like, you know what?
Jon	Three strikes, you’re out, pal. I got to go looking for another one. so Triplight, as I mentioned, it’s a good brand. I’ve had it for a long time, but I didn’t buy that one because they’re so much more expensive. I’m like, let’s find. Somebody else, another player. So I started looking around and I ended up settling on a brand called Golden Mate.
Mo	okay
Jon	Now, this is a yeah it wasn’t what I’d heard of before. But depending upon what your entertainment center is and where you put something, they have it in a full like stark white apple or a pitch black. dark ones so light or dark they have two different colors ah This is a 1000 volt amp, 800 watt.
Mo	Oh, okay.
Jon	Lithium battery, of course.
Mo	Oops.
Jon	lithy but lithium Lithium battery.
Mo	Oh, this is lithium. this This was lithium.
Jon	That’s right. Lithium battery. Um, And look, i looked it basically I did the estimates, I ran the numbers, and it said for what the voltage I’m going to put on it, it could survive. Everything running for like.
Jon	30 minutes. which It’s plenty of time for me to shut stuff down if I’m there and there’s a power yet.
George	Right.
Jon	Also plenty of time. in my Florida neighborhood, for the power to come back, which is usually within 10 seconds.
Mo	Yay.
Jon	We just get these flashes all the time, thunderstorms and crap like that.
George	Right.
Mo	Right.
Jon	So it was under $200. Maybe it was right at $200. I forget. It might have been on sale. Reasonable. And it’s something that you need, right? You can’t have unreliable or have this stuff.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	So so I invested in it. I was very… It’s not something that’s sexy. It’s not something that you touch every day and that you get value that you recognize every day.
Jon	It’s it’s it’s not like a bidet. It’s not something that you’re going to actually realize its value and worth every single day.
Mo	ah
Jon	You just notice when it’s not there. So I got it.
George	Right.
Mo	Right.
Jon	I plugged it in, powered it on the wall. And then I looked on the back and I’m like. Wait a minute. All of these plugs look the same. And my old one, they’re like two bars. One said, here’s here’s the battery backup.
George	Oh right, yeah.
Jon	And here’s the ones that are just. uh
Mo	Like surge protection or something like that.
Jon	Surge for suppression, surge of protection.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Exactly. So I went looking, I’m like, oh, wait. All eight of the plugs. are the same. They are all battery backed up.
George	Okay.
Mo	Hmm.
Jon	They’re all surge suppression. I’m like, really? Really? Did you? So all of, so I was able to put everything that I had some stuff that I just would let go down non-computer stuff like routers and stuff.
Mo	Yay.
Jon	because I didn’t have enough plugs for them all to be on the battery backup. Now I can plug them all in. It’s all protected and it doesn’t, it has a tiny little green light. the little Screen only comes on if it’s doing work.
Jon	Like if it’s actually providing voltage because of an outage, otherwise.
George	Hmm.
Jon	It’s innocuous. It sits there. It does its job. I had it for about two weeks now. And I couldn’t be happier with the upgrade. First of all, no flake outs for one, but two, now I know everything in my.
Mo	Mm-hmm
Jon	but What is my man cave? My entertainment center and my TV and all my computers and my unraid and my plex and everything.
Mo	Mm-hmm
Jon	Everything. is now protected from Not only… surges, but also Going out.
Mo	Yeah, it’s funny you brought that up because… I have this. the same uh one that you have, the Triplight one.
Jon	Do you? Yeah, okay.
Mo	Yes, because and mine just started flaking out.
Jon	Huh? It must be that time of the year.
George	Mmm.
Mo	like just recently like
George	mm-hmm
Jon	They’ve all expired. Yeah.
Mo	It like it started beeping one time. And so I was like, what’s going on?
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	And look, and then it just like every now and then it just like cuts out. So I actually took it off. I just, everything right now, my stuff is not protected, you know, as far as from that stuff.
Jon	Yeah. That’s not fun. That’s not good.
Mo	Um,
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	But yeah, but it was. it was as bad. So, so I was looking for something like said, like, But you said mostly I’m worried about like those blips in power that we get here all the frickin time.
Jon	Exactly. Yeah.
Mo	you know You know, all of a sudden they got to wait. 10 minutes for my internet to come back up because, you know, it takes that long for it to reestablish connection, all that BS.
Jon	Sure.
Mo	So the thing is that the one I have, which I think is the same one you have, it didn’t have a lithium battery in it. I think it was like nickel.
Jon	Mm-hmm.
Mo	caddy and whatever
Jon	Nickel cadmium or whatever.
Mo	and And it weighed like a thousand pounds.
Jon	Right. Yeah.
Mo	Is this one, since it’s lithium, is it lighter? Is it… It looks smaller actually.
Jon	I mean, it’s… it’s It is smaller. it It’s probably lighter. Look, you’re not going to put it in your pocket. It probably weighs 25 pounds.
Mo	Oh no no no. Okay, so it’s hefty.
Jon	but doesn’t weigh like the 45 pounds that the other one probably weighed.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	It is slimmer. It kind of looks like… You know, those ubiquitous Dell servers that everybody in their office building had, they were pretty thin line, shorter than that, but about that thick.
Mo	Oh yeah.
George	Yep. Optiplex.
Jon	Yeah, about that that much depth. Yes, yeah, Optiplex, exactly. Yeah, so it’s about that size.
Mo	Okay, okay.
George	yeah the only like i looked at it too while you were talking i think the only thing that I have a I’ve been wanting one myself. I don’t have anything right now, but I have more reliable power than either of you two do.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Jon	Yeah.
George	um It’s just the price I expect. The… sub 100 for these kind of things but they’re all 200 like this one’s 200 that’s that’s not a horrible price i guess for considering what i looked before and you had shown me the trip light ones before john and stuff
Jon	Mmm.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Mm hmm. Yeah.
George	But… I don’t know. I’m thinking about like the whole house batteries and. How much? They are per watt hour. And they’re much, much cheaper.
George	than these things are.
Jon	Mm. I can see an economy of scale happening there, maybe. yeah
George	Maybe, but they do the exact same function, just… obviously on a bigger scale i don’t know I don’t know. It just feels like they’re X. amounts cheaper than what these things are it feels like you know, if you’re going to get 30 minutes worth of
Jon	Hmm.
George	Supply? you should It shouldn’t be more than $100. Especially not with the new battery technologies anymore, but… I don’t know
Jon	That’s entirely up to your value, I guess. I tell you, I only have to lose my work once. to be 200 worth of pissed off
George	Yeah.
Mo	yeah
Jon	It is really fast. And to have that kind of peace of mind, it’s… it’s worth that to me i would never consider investing in a whole house surge suppression and Battery backup. uh because Most things in our house are not mission critical.
Jon	so a couple hundred bucks versus whatever the whole house was never explored that but uh um Maybe you don’t.
George	Well, the whole house is for a whole different thing, though. They’re not just for your computers.
Jon	Yeah, is it?
George	They’re to keep your air conditioner, and your refrigerator, all that kind of stuff when you have a long blackout.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ours are more about blips, not about…
George	but Yeah.
Jon	Yeah. Okay, so. Maybe not be, might not be for George, but Mo, if you’re looking for something, if you want to replace that trip light. I’ve been very happy with this one so far. Nothing about it had made me go, everything just. seem to be fine. So.
Mo	Okay.
Jon	And a standard plug. The plug is not hardwired in. It’s like a standard Molex plug, not a Molex. What’s the three prong for computers?
Mo	Just it was just a regular standard.
George	Yeah, right.
Mo	Okay, just
Jon	The center three plug thing, yeah. Yeah, same thing. so
Mo	All right, cool.
Jon	Alright. George, what have you been checking out in the world of tech?
George	You know, we get a lot of offers. for uh our channel we get so many solicitations and i know john’s even like recently posted a comment where somebody said i hate youtubers get everything for free like Okay.
Jon	he
George	And I understood your explanation back to the person. who’s totally Correct. But. Every now and then you get something that’s a little bit. off the beaten path, but kind of on the path a little bit.
Jon	Mm-hmm.
George	And that’s what this one was.
Jon	Yeah.
George	So I just wanted to talk about it because we’re in the early, early, early stages of testing this out. medic I haven’t even signed an affiliate deal with this company yet, but ah I pronounced the company Yoniq.
George	It’s spelled Y-O-N-I-Q. I don’t know if that’s correct or not, but that’s what I’m.
Mo	That’s what I’m assuming with too.
Jon	Hmm?
George	That’s how I’m calling it.
Jon	Yeah, I think it was a play on unique, right?
George	And they sent us.
Jon	Probably.
George	Yeah, I think.
Jon	Yeah.
George	um
Jon	Yeah.
George	So… They sent us their first product in their line. They have a whole lot more that they have planned, but it’s called the Game Patch. And I’m going to show it up here for when we have the vodcast up.
George	I’m going to show it right on the screen for those people who want to take a look at it.
Jon	Yep.
George	So what this little thing is… In. A nutshell. It’s one of these little rubberized, conductive, little joystick things that you can stick to the…
George	screen on your phone and then when you play with their particular app. which has those You know how every video game you play with on your phone, it’s got the virtual controls and it just doesn’t feel good when you’re playing.
Jon	Mm hmm. The little spots on the screen, yeah.
George	Yeah. exactly um well They’re… little app. is designed to work with this system so that instead of having just your screen that you’re touching, you’re actually pushing these little buttons and these little buttons on these little rubberized. little… things are the exact same type of things that you would find in like like a game boy or something like that.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	Right. Like you took apart your controller and that’s in there.
George	They’re just. Exactly.
Jon	Yeah.
George	The little rubber pieces that are inside all of those.
Jon	Yeah.
George	That’s what is it? John and I were talking before and we were like, it looks like somebody said, we’ve got a whole bunch of these parts extra. Why don’t we just sell the parts and come up with an app to go with it?
Jon	yeah Yeah.
Mo	<unk>
Jon	Stick them on the screen.
George	Yeah. um So I’ve been testing this thing out over the last few days and. I like it. I’ve had a few difficulties though, and I’ve had a few experiences that I’m not happy with yet.
George	So I’m not giving this as a thing that I want people to go out and rush out and buy. Although it is very affordable for what it is. I think it’s like under 20 bucks for one of them.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	um but I wanted to talk with you guys just a little bit about some of the things I know. So first of all, they sent us four of these, one in every color that they had. And when they first offered it to us, they said, we would like to send you four samples.
Jon	Hmm.
George	And I’m like, great. Send two of them to John. One did Mo one to me. fine no they sent four to everybody So we all got all the colors.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	they I feel like they had those prepackaged and just everybody gets a four.
George	Right.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	It was easier
George	Yeah. Um, That’s cool. the first one that i opened was the yellow version they’re all the same just different colors
Jon	m I get the pink.
George	My yellow one would not stick to my phone screen at all. Just wouldn’t do it. Still tried it. When I… reached out to them and I said, am I doing something wrong? Is there something I’m supposed to be noticing or doing? Does the alcohol white matter that much? What, you know?
George	And they said, well, no, it’s just, you know, you press it down firmly and all like that. I’m like, okay, fine. I said, let me try one of the other ones. Well, the other one snapped stuck right away.
Jon	Hmm.
George	No problem. So it feels like they might have some manufacturing issues possibly.
Jon	Mm. little variants.
George	Now, John, you said you tried the pink one. Mo, have you tried any of yours yet?
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	Yeah, I tried mine. It was the… I think it was the yellow one as well. I didn’t even know there were different colors, quite honestly.
George	Okay.
Mo	I just grabbed the first one.
Jon	i Yeah, I’ve gotten there.
Mo	um And I tried it in my.
George	So did anybody else experience the sliding around or anything?
Mo	It works. Mm-mm.
George	or No.
Jon	yeah well I haven’t played a game with it yet. I like put it on my screen and fiddled with it, but I’ve yet to actually play a game. I think that the the test for me is going to be… can i play it without looking down at it and will it stay put like like you’re saying because um like in early test it seemed to be fine but i wasn’t really playing a game I wasn’t really, you know
George	Yeah.
Jon	getting into it and body English and stuff.
George	Right.
Jon	I was just. trying it.
Mo	Mhm.
Jon	Yeah.
George	Now here’s a couple of things that when you install the app you might notice that I don’t like. And it’s the permissions. Out.
Jon	Oh, lots of them.
George	Anytime I install an app and it starts spitting out, I need this permission. I need that permission.
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	I get immediately suspicious now. The permission it needs to read my drive. Okay. I get that. You got to load the ROMs into your app. So, okay, fine. I understand why you need that one.
George	But then it said. I need access to your microphone. The hell you need access to my microphone for?
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	No you don’t.
Mo	Yeah. ah
George	but I don’t understand that
Jon	right we would like to make we’d like to see your contacts and make calls no you don’t
George	Right.
Jon	ah
George	so i’m like what are they doing it doesn’t make sense now I will say that this is a Chinese company. We deal with a lot of those people. Their interactions with me so far on email have been very pleasant. They’ve been very friendly, very nice. I haven’t mentioned to them yet about. this part.
George	The other part of their app that I don’t like it. It starts itself horizontal.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	Starts itself in landscape. I don’t seem to… be able to change that. But then when I want to play a game, most of the games I’m going to play in this thing are going to be like Game Boy games, right?
Mo	h
Jon	Or vertical. Right, so they’re square at the top.
George	So I need to put them in Tate vertical mode.
Jon	Yep.
George	And it does that when you load your game. It’ll let you rotate to the vertical mode. But you don’t know where to put. the little device until the game is loaded
Jon	Until the game’s running. Got it.
Mo	oh
George	And once the game is loaded.
Jon	Yep.
George	the buttons are already live on your screen on the screen of your phone and you’re putting this thing down on it, you end up with some mispresses and stuff, which is not a huge deal, but it’s a little irritating.
Jon	Yeah, there.
Mo	jesus
Jon	that’s That’s UX testing you’re doing, George, that user experience testing.
George	Right?
Jon	You’re like, it all works in an isolated lab.
George	ah
Jon	But when I’m sitting on a park bench.
George	Mm-hmm
Jon	This is a pain in the ass. Yeah.
George	Yeah.
Jon	at UX.
George	so I think there’s some hits and misses with the device. I think their price point is good. They give you a lot of little extra things that make the value feel.
Jon	Mm hmm. Little feely stickers.
George	like it like they give you these nice thick lanyards and they give you these stickers on a little case a little mag ring thing so that you can keep this on the back of your device if you want to there a whole bunch of
Jon	Cute.
George	Really. nice little things inside the package. For the, I think it’s like $18. for one of them.
Jon	Hmm, reasonable.
George	I think it’s the price.
Jon	Oh yeah.
George	Yeah. Reasonable price. And it does. When you get one to stick to your phone. Those buttons make that gameplay feel a lot. million times better than just the virtual controls on a screen.
Jon	Oh sure. Yeah.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Um, It’s I think it’s a smart device. I just need them to work these issues out. before I really move forward with us recommending the product.
Jon	If we could do a recommendation.
George	and
Jon	Sure.
George	Yeah, I just wanted to talk about a little bit here because a lot of people don’t understand the process that we go through. with these things that come in to Gen X Grown Up all the time, all these offers, because for every one video that you see.
Jon	Yeah, good point
George	We have received 100 solicitations and tested 20 of them and just chose one that we want to recommend to you guys because we’re very careful about our reputation.
Jon	Right.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	it’s not a rubber stamp. That’s right.
George	No. mm-hmm
Jon	he Yep. We’re good. We shall continue to test. You know, maybe we’ll help them improve their product. And by the time. and We give it some coverage. It’ll be great. That’d be nice.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Let that go there. I think we’re fine. Peace. Lovely.
George	Bye. form. Three? Time to talk about games, ladies and gentlemen. We just got through talking about a game controller. Now it’s time to talk about the games that we might play with a game controller.
Jon	okay
Mo	she she
George	Mo?
Mo	Yeah.
George	Why don’t you kick us off? What have you been playing lately?
Mo	Yeah, I’ve been playing a game called quarantine zone. Um,
George	Mmm.
Mo	It’s… Well…
Jon	and zombie-ish.
Mo	It kind of is, but what it is that you’re the guy.
George	Okay.
Mo	who inspects people that are coming in from the zombie-infested land to see if they… Can come in or not.
Jon	Oh! Okay.
George	Okay, so this is another job game
Mo	Yeah, it’s another job game.
Jon	Yeah.
George	um
Mo	Um…
Jon	But it’s not cleaning up.
Mo	Is that cleaning up this time?
Jon	It’s it’s ah inspecting people for bites now.
Mo	essentially yeah that’s what it is and so and it starts you off with like some basic like tools that you could use like you you take someone’s temperature or that kind of thing but then you have to like basically make a decision where they go Afterwards,
Jon	o
Mo	Um,
George	To hell.
Mo	yeah you Well, you could send them off to the to the left, and that means that you hear gunshots in a few minutes.
George	All of them.
Jon	ah
Mo	oh ah
Jon	Whoa!
George	Oh wow! the Old Yeller style.
Mo	Yeah. Or you can send them into you know the…
George	yeah
Mo	Gen pop area, of the safe area, or…
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	If you’re not sure, you do have a small area for quarantine that you could leave in there for a couple of days.
Jon	The limbo.
Mo	and check And check him later.
George	I was going to say it’s called quarantine zone. I hope you have a quarantine area.
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	Yeah. And you actually can. check them next day. See like, okay. And then, so it has a whole bunch of things to sneak. Cause it’s like, there’s a whole bunch of symptoms that you have to look for a whole bunch of like things that you could.
Mo	to like if And basically you have to determine like, okay, if they’re… Eyes are red. Yeah, you’re a freaking. infected you’re going to to the side here you know and they’re gonna get rid of you Then there are some that are great.
Mo	Like. Okay, their temperature is elevated, but it’s not quite…
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	you know they could have the flu right they could be sick so you know and so
Jon	Well, the red eyes. maybe Maybe they’ve been smoking a little weed. You know, that’s why their eyes are red.
Mo	No, this would be.
George	Hmm. Okay.
Mo	No, these are like super red. they
George	Just because he’s licking his cellmate doesn’t mean that he’s a zombie yet.
Jon	Dude, I’m totally not a zombie. Yeah.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Depends where he’s licking.
George	ah
Mo	And it has like a bunch of… um Oh, God. I was just trying to, I’m sorry.
Jon	ah It does matter.
Mo	I was trying to soar right past that point. And so and that’s how I was like a bunch of like kind of built in like mini games, I guess you would call them.
George	o
Mo	um So we’re things like you.
George	Minigames?
Mo	Yeah, that you wake up and all of a sudden like.
George	Like… Where you put the thermometer? What kind of mini games are there?
Mo	No, where they could where they come in where…
Jon	ah
Mo	Where the, like… The… infected or rushing the compound that you’re in. And so you.
George	Okay.
Jon	No!
Mo	so you have a gun thing you have to like shoot them down basically and keep them from destroying the wall
Jon	Oh.
George	Ah, okay.
Jon	Mmm. That sounds cool.
Mo	There’s… Yeah, this very, very light. like camp management like it’s it’s like a few things it’s it’s not much at all so they made sure that part was like not like overly stupid or anything else.
Mo	And then there’s also things where after a while, like you can. There’s a lab that you see somebody, you think they’re infected, but they’re showing a symptom that you haven’t seen before. So you can send it to this lab and if it turns out that you could determine that there’s a new symptom. Like, oh, would they have…
Mo	These things, that means this new symptom that now is on your chart of things to look at.
Jon	Very cool.
George	Ah.
Jon	that’s
Mo	It’s and then what the game part is that you. have every five or six days. The bus comes to pick up survivors. And they say, we expect. five people to be there or 10 people or 20 people.
Mo	You know, if you don’t, if you miss that quota. After a certain amount of time, then you lose, basically. You lose the game.
Jon	Mm.
Mo	Um,
Jon	They just leave you to get eaten by the zombies.
Mo	Yeah, basically. Yeah, you’re screwed at that point um It’s… it’ it’s it’ To me, it’s a lot of it’s a lot of fun. the ah A little stressful. As far as like. you know You get that person.
Jon	Because you got to make a call.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	And you’re like, oh, because the problem is if you send an effective person into the regular area. they wind up killing some of the people.
Jon	They’ll infect others, won’t they?
Mo	Right.
Jon	I can imagine.
George	I feel like you care a little too much about these people.
Mo	No, I care about winning the game. and That’s one thing I care about.
George	Okay.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	the
Jon	Okay.
George	I was like, just let them die. That’s the winning part.
Mo	Well, and then you get money and stuff that you can buy and upgrades, that kind of thing. But the thing is that if you send too many non-infected…
George	Hmm.
Mo	to be killed and that counts against you. you know.
George	um That counts against you.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	uh Obviously. Which I guess is a good thing. you know Which is a good thing.
Jon	What’s that?
Mo	You don’t get yeah you’t get fired. He just…
Jon	Right.
George	yeah
Jon	Mo’s like, your eyes aren’t red, but you blink too much. Dead. I know.
Mo	Or there’s a bunch of symptoms that basically are just normal. Like, okay, that’s fine. But you get somebody who has like 10 of them.
George	Mmm.
Mo	And they all find…
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	I can send you it!
Jon	What?
Mo	Technically, but…
Jon	In combination.
Mo	this is too much. Let me say you’re quarantine for a little bit, you know, or something like that.
Jon	I understand. That sounds cool. Yeah.
Mo	Yeah, so and the thing is, this it’s a $20 game. on top of it too. um you know 20 bucks i was like oh great and they even came out with just a new expansion
Jon	Yeah, nice.
Mo	which now you’re like basically in Miami doing the same job, except you’re letting people onto a boat that’s going to escape.
Jon	Okay, yeah.
Mo	and And the boat needs repairs. So you’re trying to find certain types of people and that kind of thing as well.
Jon	Hmm.
Mo	So again. Quarantine Zone for $20, well worth it. You know, it’s it’s not like a super expensive you know one of these $70 now or $80 games now, which is ridiculous.
Jon	You go.
Jon	I’ll try it.
Mo	And it’s a lot of fun. Like I said, it’s a little stressful. Worst case, if you totally screw up, you can restart the day. If you totally hose it, you just say, yeah, I’m just going to start this day over again.
Jon	Right.
Mo	Let’s see if I could find these people.
Jon	That’s a great thing of all games. It’s just a game. If I lose…
Mo	It is. It’s just a game.
George	yeah
Jon	Start again.
Mo	So a lot of fun. So if you get a chance, it’s called Quarantine Zone on Steam. I’m not sure what other platforms, but that’s what I played it on, so it’s definitely worthwhile. So.
Jon	Cool.
Mo	George, your game is a game I saw from… way back when.
George	Yeah. 30 years ago. Right. ah
Jon	m
George	Wing Commander Prophecy is what I wanted to talk about today. I was going to talk about a different game an independent game developer sent me, but then this thing happened over the last couple of days. I had some people. um Put a post on our Discord server, genxgrownup .com slash Discord.
George	and
Jon	Ding!
George	They were talking about this new bundle that just got released. So this new. bundle came out because it’s the 30th and 35th anniversary of most of the games in the wing commander franchise and The company has put out these enhanced versions of the games.
George	But they’re not charging crazy amounts of money. Like if you wanted to buy the bundle on Steam, the whole bundle is like 30 bucks.
Mo	Okay.
George	It’s really a… good deal if you want to pick up all of them if you don’t have them now i want to want talk about the steam bundle i want to talk about The fact that I bought this, well, I already had it.
George	on GOG .com. so We love ah grand old games or great old games, whatever.
Jon	Hmm?
George	I don’t know what the GOG stand for. Never understood.
Jon	if
George	People say different things. Anyway, they’re in the middle of their 18th anniversary. They just released a showcase video on their YouTube channel for the first time. ah yesterday i think it was and i saw it today and they were talking about this wing commander approach so I’m like, oh, crap.
George	Well, I just bought it on Steam. Let me go refund the one on Steam and look at the one on. gog because if you had the original game from back in the day you got the 30th anniversary for free They just include it.
Mo	Nice.
George	for you so i downloaded it there it plays just as smooth maybe even smoother than through the steam interface um i didn’t notice a single skip or lag in the full motion video captures which are breathtaking.
George	if you played wing commander back in the day you remember how pixelated and degraded the video was Yeah, but.
Mo	oh yeah Yeah. At the time, it looked amazing, though. it looked amazing at the time so you know yeah.
Jon	Right. It was like.
Mo	yeah
George	Oh, it’s so gorgeous now because they have the original footage.
Jon	240p or something.
George	So they’re able to just. Show that. And that original footage was shot on good cameras, you know, television cameras of the day.
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	And now. You get to see that and it’s just so much better. than what it was the gameplay itself is also enhanced it’s a lot of fun I did the first mission in both the steam variant and the GOG variant.
George	Just like what I remember, you know, all the weird senses of humor and stuff that they wrote into those lines in the cut scenes and everything.
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	You know you still, Mark Hamill is gorgeous as ever.
Mo	I was going to say, yeah, was it Mark Hamill in one of them?
George	Yeah, yeah, he’s still Commander Blair in prophecy.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	he
Jon	Mmm.
George	um The AIDS. it’s it’s just a really really fun game the fact that gog allows you to download the game play it on anything you want drm free you can save it to cd or disc or what the hell ever medium you want and have it forever i just feel like that’s very important we talk about it a lot here on the channel on my bit by bit news stuff and john mentions it all the time
Jon	Yep. CD.
George	Uh, Owning the games as opposed to Steam is easy. Don’t get me wrong.
Jon	Yeah.
George	I don’t think Steam is going anywhere, but if they ever choose to take that game away, I’ve got nothing I can do about it.
Jon	mm-hmm
Jon	They can. That’s right.
George	So. If you’re looking to pick up these new 30th and 35th anniversaries, I suggest picking them up on GOG. They’re like five bucks maximum a piece. Some of them are like $250, so…
Mo	Okay.
Jon	Hmm.
George	they’re They’re great values for the money.
Jon	Yeah.
George	But…
Jon	And George, i I clicked on the link to GOG to go and watch. And so I’m watching trailers of the, no sound or anything.
Mo	Mm hmm.
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	I’m just seeing it. And as you’re talking, you’re talking about how much you enjoyed it. And I’m looking at it and I’m getting little chills remembering.
Mo	she says
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	How? How? By today’s standards. The gameplay looks a little rudimentary. It’s a little more polygonal.
George	Sure.
Jon	But it didn’t matter when we played it.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	And I’m looking at it like I could play that game right now and and suspend my disbelief and believe i’m in outer space.
George	Mm-mm. Yep.
Jon	I’m like, damn it. And I’m like, and I know they optimize these for like modern controllers. So I don’t have a flight yoke.
George	They did. Yeah.
Jon	But I’m going to have my little thumb stick that’s analog that’s going to work just fine.
Mo	right
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	I’m thinking. Damn, that’s cool. i Yeah, I’m probably spending. five to $20 this weekend. Most likely.
Mo	Yes.
George	Yeah.
Jon	That looks great.
George	yeah it’s a great system and check your library you might already have it that’s the thing you might have bought the wing commander a long time ago and now you’ve got the anniversary edition for free that’s the other thing that gog does as well or maybe better than any of the other platforms if you already own something and a new version of it comes out
Jon	Oh, that’s… How cool.
Mo	That’s true.
Jon	Yeah, I might. You’re right. I very well could. I wouldn’t doubt it
Jon	Mm hmm.
Jon	Yep.
George	A lot of times they just give you the new version.
Mo	Yeah.
George	That’s just…
Jon	Yeah.
George	That’s a crazy business model, but it’s because. I don’t think they give a shit. about the money side of it.
Jon	Yeah.
George	i think they really are genuinely into the game preservation aspect that’s what the whole company was founded on and they’re doing a great job.
Jon	Yeah.
George	Ciao.
Jon	Yeah. Well, Steam and Epic, some other they did that like with Bioshock.
George	Hmm?
Jon	And they did that with, there was another one that got remastered.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Oh, Gears of War. got that’s re It’s remastered.
George	Oh yeah.
Jon	I’m not talking Emergence, but then just remastered.
George	Yeah.
Jon	If you owned it at a Windows store, you got a free upgrade.
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	So it’s a good it’s a very consumer-friendly policy to have, and it garners goodwill.
George	Yeah.
Jon	And.
George	Yeah, I mean, because some…
Jon	Yeah. I’m glad.
George	Some companies are selling these enhanced versions at like… new game prices sometimes you know and i get it you did a lot of work and you’re trying to make that money back and you’re trying to make a profit i don’t bear any ill will toward you for that but
Jon	Mm hmm. Yeah.
Jon	Yep. Me too.
George	If I already own the old game, you want to give me the thing for free?
Jon	Yeah.
George	i’m not going to turn it down and gog is a great place to do that with so
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Yep. Love it. Mm.
George	John. I purposely left yours.
Jon	Yeah.
George	to the last because
Jon	Okay.
Mo	instances
George	I’m not sure this is a game I really want to highlight.
Jon	ah
George	this This feels a little bit less than the Moe pick. This is not a job game. This is a hobby game. If I understand the title.
Jon	Yeah.
George	correctly. I don’t.
Jon	Yeah, probably.
George	Why?
Jon	So… Do you remember last time we spoke and I had that game that was. ah It was incremental. Like the the the we.
Jon	We need more humans, remember? it was And they then humans are worth a dollar, and then they’re worth $10 and $100, and you can upgrade and upgrade and upgrade.
George	Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Right.
Jon	This is… This is the act. Of ripping. Collectible Card Packs as a game
George	Whew.
Jon	And you you’d think, so first… It’s only three bucks. Okay. So, but it’s like, I know that’s like. Three-fifths of the cost of Wing Commander Prophecy, but still.
George	Right?
Jon	But still. it It has that ah modern pixely. um look of like bellatro where things are intentionally look like pixels right that kind of thing
George	Mm hmm. Right.
Jon	And then. It starts with, you get a free pack like every 10 seconds. You can open, it drops on the table. You click on it a whole bunch of times, which is the rip. And then it opens. You got like two cards in it and you’re collecting all the different cards. And then later. there’s other packs you can get that cost $5 or pack cost $20 or pack cost. And they have better cards in them. And then later you start getting the, the foil variant and the.
Jon	a holographic variant and the you know all those things and then you start getting upgrades And the upgrades are like, you can rip faster. You can flip two cards at once.
Mo	Jeez. Oh my God.
Jon	You can. how many you can hold duplicates in reserve before you sell them off, or you can hire employees who will be selling them off and flipping cards for you. You’re building this little system.
Jon	And it’s… It’s that same kind of, I i think when I talked about we need more humans, I talked about the Bellatro feeling of. watching little numbers turn into big numbers and things how fast you can flip the cards as an upgrade, things like that.
Jon	It’s watching it go from something that’s kind of slow to something that’s like crazy fast and a million things happening at once. It’s just… You find yourself, I’ll try it. Oh, that’s kind of cool.
Jon	Oh, that upgrade helped. Let’s try just one more. And then it’s 45 minutes later and you’ve done it for.
Mo	Ha ha.
Jon	a bajillion packs and I have tons of cards to sell. And it’s just, it’s, it’s a special kind of game. You have to like that kind of game, but this is a good one of them.
George	Mmm. so
Jon	Mm-hmm.
George	I’ve been waiting for you to take a breath because…
Jon	Dubious.
George	The act that you’re talking about of ripping open the packs and turning over the cards and then whatever happens afterwards. That is just a little. cutscene in most
Jon	Mm-hmm
George	modern sports games right like nba games ah like the way you get your your team together is you get these cards you rip open the cards and now you’ve got vladi divak or you got michael jordan or whoever um you know
Jon	Mm-hmm
Jon	Yep.
Jon	Mm hmm. Or a loot crate or something.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Yeah.
George	Exactly.
Jon	mm-hmm
George	They’ve taken that little cut scene and turned it into a game.
Jon	It’s the whole game
George	And they’ve paired it with the idea that this is. Kind of like the, you know, I know you love the retro rewind and we love the re-story one where you’re cleaning up the old Atari.
Jon	Mm hmm. Hm?
George	uh, gadgets and cartridges and whatnot.
Jon	Hmm?
George	It feels like it’s a blending of those two things. And I don’t. Like it. um I don’t…
Jon	What?
George	I don’t think it’s, I don’t think it’s a good thing for society. at this point.
Jon	Well, okay. Well, okay. I’m not worried about society. I’m just worried about me right now, but we’ll get back to that.
George	i
Jon	I’ll tell you. You know why it’s a cut scene in those games? Because it’s exciting for people. It’s not enough to just, oh, what cards do I get? People will watch and there’s an animation and it explodes or it pops open in a shower of sparkles. And it’s that endorphin hit, like the bejeweled thing. And this is loaded with those little endorphin hits. A rare card pops. It’s like fireworks and go off. It is.
Jon	It is just. it A little slow drip of dopamine. That’s why.
George	It just feels too simplistic.
Jon	That’s why.
George	It feels… Like it’s preying on a simple side of human.
Jon	Yes.
George	it’s i see I see kids all the time.
Mo	its John’s like, yeah, you’re not wrong.
Jon	yeah
George	that are ripping open the packs on youtube right and those videos are getting like 5 million views and i’m like god damn it john just did this beautiful documentary video about pac-man and you assholes are watching some kid open a foil pack
Jon	Yep.
Mo	Which is ridiculous.
Jon	but Yeah.
George	Are you kidding me?
Jon	Guess I should be just clicking on these cards instead.
George	Oh, God.
Jon	It’s Goofy. Crack the Pack is the name of it.
Mo	Okay.
George	Mm.
Jon	mo will give you I’ll give you a link.
Mo	Yeah, yeah, yeah Be in the show notes.
Jon	But another show, note look at three bucks. It’s $3. On sale, it’s probably going to be $1 .50, right?
George	It’s just a dollar more.
Jon	i’ve I’ve gotten. I’m. I’m… I’m not embarrassed to say I have gotten my three hours out of it already. ah
Jon	I can let that go there if you guys have nothing else.
George	Yeah.
Mo	yeah I’m good.
George	yeah
Mo	I’m good.
Jon	All right. We’re here in the last segment of the show. And before we let you go, we always like to take a few seconds to talk here about the things we’re either looking at right now or looking forward to between now and the next time we get together. And I think I’m going to start with you, George. What do you have on the horizon?
George	ah First up, this is kind of a… a PSA, so to speak, or something like that. Uh, I’m looking forward to SFGE already, which is going to happen in July. And I’m looking forward to it because we just got noticed through the SFGE discord server that the room bookings are going to be live the day that this episode drops.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Jon	Right now.
George	Now, my hope is that you’re listening to this podcast on your drive into work or something like that, because
Jon	As you should.
Mo	And pull over, get your phone out.
George	Yeah.
Jon	ah
Mo	ah
George	Because the… The opening happens at 1 p .m. Eastern Time.
Mo	Mmm.
George	We release this, I think, at 7 a .m.
Jon	Okay.
George	Eastern Time, John?
Mo	5am, 5am, 5am.
Jon	5, 5 a .m.
George	5 a .m eastern even better so that gives you a few hours to prepare because let me tell you If you hear this podcast at 1 .10 PM, you’re probably too fucking late.
Jon	Mm hmm.
George	Those rooms.
Jon	Oh!
George	Go fast.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	I have to interject. If you’re a patron. You get it 5 p .m. the night before, so you have an… a market advantage.
Mo	Oh!
George	Even better. See? Patreon, genxgrownup .com slash Patreon.
Jon	Ding!
George	There we go.
Jon	ding
George	Um.
Jon	Wonderful plugs.
George	SFGE does a great job. It’s our favorite convention of the year. And not to say that the other conventions aren’t fun, but this is the one that we choose to go to.
Jon	Hm?
George	just to enjoy ourselves. We don’t go to this one to work.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Yep.
George	We just go there to have a good time with each other and meet everybody there. We always have like a GXG meet and greet. We do a panel or two over the weekend and we just play a ton of games, board games.
George	tabletop RPGs. video games, pinball. It has everything in it in the heart of downtown Atlanta. It is a beautiful. beautiful convention.
George	1 PM. today as you’re listening to me right now, or…
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	since
George	The next day, if you… Heard it on Patreon. Get ready to get your rooms. Next thing I’m looking forward to. If it happens. November 19th, GTA 6 is supposed to come out.
Mo	Oh, is there is there a rumor that it’s not?
George	I don’t know if it’s gonna be real or not.
Mo	Is there… Talk about it not coming out.
George	Well, it’s been delayed like 17 times.
Jon	It’s always been delayed. yeah
Mo	Oh yeah.
George	Yeah. So… We’ll see if it’s going to show up or not. at this point it looks like maybe it is because they haven’t announced another delay but At this point. I don’t know if it’s even worth it.
George	It’s… crazy prices.
Jon	yeah
Mo	ah How much is it going for?
George	It’s just the most expensive video game in history.
Jon	It’s a hundred bucks.
Mo	Oof.
George	Yeah.
Mo	Oof.
George	Well, I think they spent like $20 billion dollars making the damn thing. Who knows? but Just stupid. um ah you know, John’s going to play his $3 crack the pack anyway. So it doesn’t matter.
Jon	It gets much cheaper. Just as much fun.
Mo	Yeah.
George	I think I’m looking forward to the most though. Uh, November 20th in theaters, the hunger game sunrise on the reaping. This is the Haymitch Abernathy story from the second quarter quell.
Jon	Hmm.
George	So if you’re a fan of the Hunger Games books or movies, this looks like it’ll be a pretty good one. It’s got a long list of talent involved, a little bit more so than the last movie that came out, which was the whole. um President Snow.
George	prequel storyline thing um that one was what songbirds and snakes i think that one was called
Jon	Something like that.
George	Oh.
Jon	Yep.
George	So this one, I think will be a little bit better than that one. I don’t know if it’ll rival the original. trilogy movies and some people like them some people don’t like them i really enjoyed them so hopefully this one will live up to the hype a little bit more so than GTA 6 at least.
George	So. Mo, what about you? What are you looking forward to?
Mo	let’s see uh the first thing is i think a movie actually georgia you were looking forward to last time which just doesn’t come out for a little bit which is the return of living dead Remake.
George	Mm hmm.
Mo	Because, you know.
George	Yep.
Mo	but I’m like you, you know, a good zombie flick is never a bad thing, right?
Jon	Hmm.
George	Right.
Mo	so So looking forward to that. um It comes out the 13th of November again. um
Jon	So just tomorrow. Yeah.
Mo	Yep. i’m Also looking forward to Thanksgiving this year because we’re having, it’s going to be ridiculously large in our. A family flying in. We’re going to have.
Jon	Ooh, one of those, yeah.
George	Mmm.
Mo	26 people.
Jon	Woo!
George	wo
Jon	woo
Mo	I think is the last count. Um,
George	that’s a poker tournament
Mo	that’s It’s a lot of people.
Jon	that’s That’s three tables.
George	okay
Mo	Yeah. It’s a, it’s a lot of Turkey. Let me tell you. So, but looking forward to two, cause you know, I don’t think we’ve ever had this group together like It’s all the kids and everything. And we might not again, you know, who knows?
Mo	I mean, it’s to get this particular group of people together may not happen.
George	Mmm.
Jon	Yeah. together.
Mo	You know, so we’re taking advantage of it.
Jon	Right, right, right.
Mo	We’re not worried about how much things cost. We’re just going to have fun. um What I’m really looking forward to, though, is. Blade Runner New series.
Jon	That’s it.
Mo	Amazon.
Jon	Oh really?
Mo	yep Coming out November 25th. It’s 50 years after the movie the last movie. And Michelle Yeoh is a star.
Jon	Oh, is it live action?
Mo	It’s live. Yes, a live action.
Jon	Oh, really?
Mo	And it’s a series.
Jon	Hmm.
Mo	And it looks it just it.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Looks awesome. like the trailers don’t tell you too much, which is not a bad thing.
Jon	Good.
Mo	but you get the impression, you see some of the replicants are talking to each other and they’re like. you know Why is it more human than humans? is Why even compare ourselves to humans? you know.
George	Mmm.
Mo	we should be we should be gods a instead of human you know like that kind of thing which i was like oh and i think michelle yo plays like a blade runner like one of the people who goes out and hunts them.
George	Mmm.
Jon	make That would make sense.
George	Oh, okay all right
Mo	And so but as soon as I saw she was in it, Blade Runner, I’m like, this is. just can’t do no wrong as far as I’m concerned. So that’s what I’m looking forward to the most. So that comes out again, the 25th of this month, November.
Jon	Alright. That sounds good.
Mo	Yeah. So how about you, John? What are you looking forward to?
Jon	Yeah, so just, ah so first there’s an update. i i play the retro rewind you just mentioned a minute ago george the the movie rental store
Mo	Hmm?
George	Mm hmm. Yep.
Jon	An update just dropped. I’ve not played it yet, but it just dropped the other day where they’ve added. Video game console and video game rental. to the video.
Mo	mm-hmm
Jon	tape store. We knew it was coming for a while, but it’s finally out and it’s live. And next time I do a live stream. I’m going to try it again because it’s going to expand a whole new world of things to do and new.
Jon	shelves to set up. They have like. You know, they’re off-brand, they make up names, but it’s basically like a Super Nintendo and a Sega are the two kinds of systems that era, late 80s, 90s kind of thing.
Mo	Right.
Jon	So looking forward to trying that new update because I enjoyed that game. ah The next November 20th in theaters, I’m looking forward to seeing I Play Rocky.
Mo	Yeah.
George	Yeah.
Mo	Saw that trailer, it looked good.
Jon	have you seen this yeah
George	Yep.
Jon	Yeah, it’s a docu…
George	Mmm.
Jon	It’s a docudrama?
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Not about Rocky so much, but about how Rocky got made. How Sylvester Stallone wasn’t getting parts and he wrote this for himself and then people wanted to buy it from him.
George	Right.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	And he’s like, no, I’m going to play this role. and Anyway. It looks really good. The guy looks like he’s not doing an impression. He’s just kind of. like embodying the Stallone. It looks really good. um The thing I’m most looking forward to comes out the day this episode releases, November 12th on Netflix. There’s this movie called Alan.
Mo	Like the name?
Jon	Alan? Yes, Allen, A-L-L-E-N.
Mo	Okay.
Jon	And I think it’s actually a… Misspelling of alien. Like the the second L might have been a…
Mo	Okay
George	Okay.
Jon	This is being, this is getting buzz as a. I’ve never heard this before, a spiritual sequel. to ET.
Mo	ah
Jon	So imagine… In this story. You see the movie E .T.?
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	ET leaves.
George	Right.
Jon	Elliot’s like, oh, we never even said goodbye. What happened to him after that?
Mo	Oh, what happened to Elliot?
Jon	Yes. So as a man, he grows up. He’s longing for the most important thing that ever happened in his life was this alien. He has his washed up life and he wants him to come back.
George	Right.
Jon	He wants the alien to come back. And the alien’s name, they named him Alan. So you get to see like that part of his life when he was a kid.
George	Ah.
Jon	But then that was because that was the most important thing that ever happened to him, he never did anything else after that. So he’s kind of living on that fame or that.
Mo	Hmm.
Jon	That, that. bit of his life kind of like somebody who peaked in high school right they’re still living on the the
Mo	Yeah.
George	Like a serious version of Ted.
Jon	Kind of. Kind of. so It. a spiritual sequel never heard that before so it has nothing to do with spielberg different character names and everything but
Mo	Hmm.
Jon	Alan. Comes out November 12th.
Mo	Okay. Check that out.
Jon	Looking forward to that the most. Okay. ah Before we wrap it up, we’re just about done. I know that I want to thank a new new patron who joined us, but Mo, one of the benefits of being a patron is an opportunity to ask us a question here on the show that we’ll answer.
Jon	And I see you have one on deck.
Mo	Yeah, um I guess this is because Halloween just passed. So Ben asked this question I thought was very appropriate, which was. Was there a movie that you saw growing up? That really scared you.
Mo	That actually scared you like. made you i guess look under your bed or look in the closets or something like that
Jon	Mm-hmm
Mo	So. George, you mind starting us off?
George	uh yeah it’s pretty easy answer for me there’s only one
Mo	Okay. What?
George	Exorcist.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	Yeah, that’s a bad one.
Jon	yeah You’ve mentioned that before.
George	yeah so i’ve i’ve told the story i think before but i uh I wasn’t young.
Jon	Yep.
George	I wasn’t growing up, but I was like a teenager and my parents had. work. gone off on some trip. And, uh, before they left, we went to the video store and I saw exorcists on the shelf.
George	We grabbed it, brought it back to the house, which at that time we lived on a 13 acre farm out in the middle of nowhere. Uh, they left for their fun weekend in wherever Jacksonville, Florida.
George	I don’t know. Uh, and
Mo	but
George	There was a big storm that weekend. And I decided it was a good idea to wait till late at night when the storm was at its strongest to put that goddamn VHS tape in.
Jon	he
Mo	Yeah, that was a tactical error.
George	Yeah. yeah that’s one of the only movies that i’ve ever had to stop watching
Jon	Hmm.
Mo	Mmm.
Jon	Mmm.
George	For.
Jon	Yep.
George	the what it it it wasn’t that like i was I don’t think I was fearful like, ah you know, boogeyman’s going to come get me.
Mo	Yeah.
George	It was just so disturbing.
Jon	It is.
Mo	Yes.
George	That film.
Jon	Oh yeah.
Mo	Oh, truly. Yes.
George	Oh my god.
Jon	Yep.
George	So.
Mo	Oh.
George	For me, The Exorcist.
Jon	Easy pick.
Mo	That’s a good one.
Jon	Sure.
George	Yeah.
Mo	Yeah Or it’s a bad one.
Jon	Yep.
Mo	I don’t know how you look at it. How about you, John?
Jon	Haha.
Jon	I’m going to give you two only because not because I’m cheating. but because one of them was The Exorcist. And I told the story before about how… I watched it and it got in my head and then I heard a motorcycle outside. I’ve told the story too many times.
George	Mm hmm.
Jon	I can tell that again. But the other one. I think the statute of limitations on embarrassment is up on this one. And it was watching on HBO the first time I saw Jaws.
Mo	Mm hmm.
Mo	Okay.
George	Oh.
Mo	It scared a lot of people, actually.
Jon	And I heard. Great things about the film. It was finally hitting HBO. I was dying to watch it. And. When he is on the back of the boat,
Mo	Mm hmm.
Jon	And he says, why do you come down here and shovel some of this shit? And just, he says, shit, the shark comes up out of the water.
Mo	Of the big.
George	Right.
Jon	I peed a little So… at this point in my life i’m not embarrassed to tell you i lost a little control of my bodily functions i’m like what like it i i was genuinely in my bones scared of the thing on the tv and normally you’re just Anxious, but I mean, I was petrified.
George	Mm.
Jon	ah
Mo	That wasn’t…
Jon	Yeah, that that was powerful.
Mo	Yeah, that was that was an amazing scene, though, because it’s like…
Jon	Jaws was powerful. Oh, it was because you don’t see it because the middle of a sentence.
Mo	It was just, it was so so calm and, you know, it just comes out of nowhere.
Jon	Yes.
Mo	So.
Jon	Mmm.
George	Is that the first time we see the shark in that movie?
Mo	Mmm. No.
Jon	Full. Yeah. ah young Maybe you had just seen his fin.
George	Yeah.
Mo	Well, you see the head.
George	Like, we see its head.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	Yes.
George	We see the fin before, but yeah.
Jon	Right. But his head comes up out of the water and you’re it’s yeah, it was too much for young Johnny.
George	Right.
George	Mmm.
Mo	I think we need a bigger boat. Hey.
George	Hmm.
Jon	Yeah.
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	How about you, Mo?
Mo	So for me, it was Alien. Um,
Jon	Sure.
George	Oh good one.
Mo	Because… My brother took me to see it when I was way too young. Because it came out in 77, right?
George	Okay.
George	No. 79.
Mo	Or was it 79? Okay, 79.
George	79 or 80, yeah.
Mo	So I was 11. 12? um And again, it’s like that.
Jon	I thought it was late 70s. Anyway.
Mo	Oh baby, it was spit it it was, I was too young. yes i was definitely i was i was ah I was a tween or something like that.
Jon	Yeah, either way, too young. yeah
Mo	And at.
Jon	ah
George	Yeah, it was 1979.
Mo	79?
George	Just looked it up.
Mo	Okay, 79.
Jon	Okay.
Mo	Good.
George	Yep.
Mo	Because… you know He got tired of seeing like all the movies that I wanted to see, so he’s like, I want to see Aliens. So I’m like, okay.
Jon	Mm hmm.
Mo	And he undersold it to me.
Jon	You had to go.
Mo	Oh, it’s just about space and aliens. I’m like, oh, okay, no problem. When that thing came out of the guy’s chest.
Jon	Mmm!
George	Oh yeah.
Mo	And I wasn’t expecting it, so I was eyes wide open staring at the screen.
George	Mm-hmm
Jon	He he he he he he.
Mo	i had night I literally had nightmares.
Jon	Mmm.
George	I mean, so did some of the actors on set.
Mo	Yeah, that stuff was…
George	So you’re you’re in good company.
Jon	Yeah, they didn’t know what was coming. Yeah.
Mo	yeah that you know that that something was in my chest that something was like pushing i mean i had severe nightmares my dad was so pissed at my brother about that he’s like why the hell do you think it was a movie he’s not sleeping it’s like three o ‘clock in the morning he’s still not asleep
George	Yeah.
Jon	Oh.
George	Mm. ah
Mo	But yeah, I mean, also that movie just by itself was just a great suspense.
Jon	Oh yeah.
George	Mm hmm.
Mo	Again, it’s like Jaws. You didn’t even see the alien, really.
George	Yep.
Mo	until you get toward the end and oh
Jon	For a long time. Yeah.
George	not until dallas is in the air duct that’s the first time you see the flash yeah
Mo	Yeah. Yep. And let me tell you, I mean, I watch it occasionally.
Jon	Mm.
Mo	I still watch it. But. It’s still… Gets my blood going every time I see it, though. It’s still…
Jon	Yeah.
George	It’s the way Exorcist is for me, yeah.
Jon	Still?
Mo	Creeps me out. Yeah.
Jon	It survives. Yeah.
Mo	So.
Jon	What a good question, Ben.
Mo	Oh yeah.
Jon	oh
Mo	Yeah.
Jon	I’m a little creeped out.
Mo	I know. So, yeah, thanks for that question. And, hey, if you want your question asked on this. Sorry. And if you want your question asked on the podcast, it’s really easy. Just go to genuscom .com slash Patreon.
Mo	As little as a dollar a month, send me your questions, and the odds are we’ll ask it right here on the show.
Jon	That’s right. And the next question we get could be from another Ben. ben and jen j is the name of the account so i’m guessing that’s a partner a team name that account They did just what you said, Mo.
Jon	They headed over to patreon .com slash Gen X Grown Up, opened up their hearts and their wallets and said, we want to support what you do with a regular financial pledge of just a dollar.
George	Maybe it’s a new ice cream company that wants to support us.
Jon	You’re there. Ben and Jen, it could be.
Mo	that That would be the best.
Jon	Sounds tasty.
George	Wouldn’t it?
Jon	I’m in.
George	Yeah.
Jon	Right. But it’s all mint chocolate chip, Mo.
Mo	ah Aww.
George	Yeah.
Mo	Oh. Oh. Low blow low blow
Jon	All right. Oh yes.
George	jenna turn up .com slash discord.
Jon	Alright.
George	If you want to learn that joke.
Jon	but
George	he
Jon	But thank you, Ben and Jen Jay, for your your pledge. We’re so grateful to have you on board. Join a roster of other people that we love and we’re so grateful to have you. That then is going to wrap it up. for this edition of the show. Don’t worry, though, if you were worried, you should stop because in a couple of weeks, we’ll be back with another one. And next week, well, that’s our backtrack.
Jon	And often it’s where we pick a single topic and dig in deep. But next week we have something special for you. What is it, George?
George	You know, it’s getting about that time of the year. We’re winding up. Things are getting a little colder and money. Needs to be spent, ladies and gentlemen.
Jon	he
George	Well… You’ve got a lot of gifts that you need to give. And we’re going to help you. We’re going to give you our geek gift guide for 2026 on the podcast.
Jon	Yep.
George	Now this year, we’re going all in. We’ve got. The podcast one, John, I think is going to do a YouTube video one that might have some different stuff in it.
Jon	Hm? Yep.
George	I’m going to do one in the newsletter since it’s the first time we can do that.
Jon	Yep.
George	It’s going to be a blast. We’ve got a lot of great products picked out for you.
Jon	Good ideas.
George	Everything that we recommend that we actually use and own ourselves. all coming up next week.
Jon	Yep. You don’t want to miss that. It’s always a good time. It’s a regular tradition every year, and we’re doing it again this year. You do not want to miss it. Until then. I am John George. Thank you so much for being here, pal.
George	Yes, sir
Jon	Mo, you know I appreciate you.
Mo	Always fun man.
Jon	Fourth listener, it’s you. We all three appreciate most of all, though. We can’t wait to talk to you again next time. ah Bye-bye.
George	See you guys.
Mo	Take care, everybody.

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Mo As someone who barely manages to squeeze in as a GenXer my memories include more of the 70's than those younger GenXers. Reading and movies are my passions with some video gaming thrown in there for good measure!