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Good Boy, Undetectable Mouse Mover, & Side Effects

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We head to the theatre for a new horror movie seen entirely through the eyes of man’s best friend, test some tech that helps make you look busy to keep the boss off your back, and play a new video game that puts a delightfully-maddening twist on pinball!

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Speaker Transcript
Jon Welcome back, Gen X Grown-Up Podcast listener, to this episode 199 of the Gen Grown-Up Podcast. I’m John. Joining me as always, of course, my friend George. Hey, man.
George Hey, how’s it going guys?
Jon Would not be a show without Mo. Hey, Mo.
Mo Hey, how’s it going?
Jon In this episode, we head to the theater for a new horror movie seen entirely through the eyes of man’s best friend. Test some tech that makes… Test some tech that helps make you look busy. so Damn, I can’t talk, but…
Jon Test some tech that helps make you look busy to keep the boss off your back and play a new video game that puts a delightfully maddening twist on pinball. Those topics and many more coming up in this episode. But first, it is time for some fourth listener email. The three of us may listen, but if anyone else does and they write in and tell us about it, you are the fourth listener.
Jon and that time And this time around, it’s Brandon G. who dropped us a line. And Mo, it says, the subject line, dang you, Mo,
Mo Uh-oh.
Jon Hmm.
Mo What’d I do?
Jon Hmm. Brandon says, Hey guys, as always, I hope each of you are doing well, but I have to give Mo a bit of a hard time. I love every segment of the show and I have searched out many things you guys mentioned on the pod, but crime scene cleaner.
Mo Uh-huh.
Mo Uh-huh.
Jon Damn it. Mo you mentioned it in one episode and then George mentioned it in another begrudgingly.
George a yeah
George Yep.
Mo you
Jon i You did.
George Hmm.
Jon I fired up my PS5 a few nights ago and searched the store to see if it was there. And it was. So I downloaded it, fell in love with it right away. I thought I’d get bored with it because it might be like pressure washer simulator and other such games.
Jon But no, the game is frustratingly addictive.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Usually it’s John that leads me into spending money on games. But this time it was you who led me to buying a game. It is so much better than a game of this kind should be. Mm hmm.
George yeah
Jon Yep. Finally, he says, Mo, I blame you jokingly, of course, and I’m actually glad you made us aware of this strange little game. Keep up the good work, guys. And as always, bashwood best wishes to each of you, Brandon G.
Jon You’ve infected yet another. There must be a half a dozen people on the Discord server that you’ve infected.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And now Brandon, course, George was reluctantly pulled into the crime scene.
George Yeah, I’m still pissed.
Jon He still hasn’t forgiven you.
George Yeah.
George Mm-mm.
Jon So, Brandon, we’re sorry, not sorry. We’re happy to Mo helped you find a game that you might otherwise have found.
Mo she
Jon We appreciate that you wrote in and we love it every time the fourth listener takes time to drop us a line. If you would like your email featured here on the show, it’s drop dead easy. Just hit us up at podcast at genxgrownup.com.
Jon Read every single one of most of them, just like Brandon’s will eventually make the show. All right. We’re going to jump into the body of episode 199 right after this very quick break.
Jon Better, worse.
George Still stuttering, but at least it didn’t kill the stream, so.
Mo Same.
Jon It didn’t. Is it, can you understand me somewhat at least? It’s not like breaking up my, okay.
George Enough, yeah.
Mo Yeah. yeah yeah
Jon All right. All right. We’ll forge forward. hope Maybe it’ll work. Who fuck knows? All right.
George I think interruptions are just going to be something we’re going to have to be careful of in this.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will be, since it’s me that’s stuttering a lot, I’ll be mindful to kind of, because you guys aren’t stuttering to each other at all, right?
Mo Yeah.
George No.
Jon Yeah. Okay. So I’ll be mindful to not jump in so quickly on some stuff because you might not have heard me in I don’t want to mess with you. Okay. Media. In five, four, three.
Jon Okay, gents, let’s get cooking here at the top of the show. As we always do, talking about media that we have been enjoying since we last spoke. Now, this could be comic books or movies or film movies and film. It’s a fucking thing.
Jon Could be comic books or movies or television or books or whatever you’re enjoying. Why don’t we start with you, George? What have you been checking out in media?
George Yeah, ah there’s a couple of films that I’ve watched recently that I’ve been wanting to discuss on the podcast, but I have to choose one because I don’t want to be a rule breaker or whatever.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Anyway, so I’m going to go with one this time, and then on the next podcast I’ll go with the other one, but I’ll probably find ten other TV shows or movies I want to talk about just as equal, but…
Jon Okay.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Earlier this year, um ah new George Clooney Brad Pitt movie was released and it kind of went a little under the radar.
Jon Oh.
George I didn’t hear a lot of press about it, but it’s called Wolves.
Mo Okay.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Yep.
George Have either of you heard of it or seen it?
Mo I heard of it, have not seen it.
George Okay.
Jon that’s I heard about it, like Mo, and i think I saw middling reviews.
George Okay.
Mo Yeah.
Jon i didn’t really read them. I wasn’t paying much attention, but I’ve heard of it. So now I’ll hear the authority. What’s it like?
George Yeah, well, so I get middling reviews because it’s not an Ocean’s film, but those two actors have great chemistry on screen.
Jon Hmm.
Jon Hmm.
George There’s no question about that in everything we’ve seen them do. ah This movie takes the idea that George Clooney is the greatest cleaner, so crime scene cleaner, not not unlike the video game we were just talking about, and
Jon but No wonder George loved it.
George Yeah. Uh, he’s the best crime scene cleaner that you can get. So if, um, if you have like a crime that you need covered up, you’ve killed somebody or something, you make a phone call, he calls you back and then he shows up very mysteriously, very calmly. And you know, he does his thing and it’s all the evidence and everything has disappeared and you’re good. Well,
Mo okay
George He one of the lines that he uses something similar to i’m the guy like I’m the only one.
Mo Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And while he’s at this hotel room where a young man has been killed and a very powerful, rich executive lady who was getting herself a boy toy that evening.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Um, uh, matter of fact, and that actress was, uh, the same actress who played, um, uh, on the office who played Michael Scott’s main love interest that he went to marry.
Mo so yeah yeah
Jon Oh, right. Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George ah Same, same actress plays this, uh, this female, um, executive, um, or no, she’s actually, she’s a lawyer. If I remember right, she was like an attorney general anyway. Um,
George George Clooney and her are having the conversation the hotel room. And then there’s another knock at the door and it’s Brad Pitt. And he’s dressed almost exactly like George Clooney. And he walks in saying almost the exactly the same things.
George And you’re like, what’s going on here? Well, it turns out the hotel is run also by a very powerful person and they have cameras in this executive suite. And so the owner of the hotel sent Brad Pitt because the owner wants their interests protected as well.
Jon Oh.
Mo Ah.
Jon Oh, he’s another cleaner. He’s another one of them.
George Yes.
Jon Oh, so now they’re both at the same job.
George So they’re both at the same job and one of their ah rules is that they always work alone. Well, now they’re forced to work together because of both of these interested parties want their person involved in this cleanup.
Jon Hmm.
Mo c
George goes horribly awry, as you might imagine, because it turns out the young man’s not dead at all. He’s actually just unconscious and wakes up in their trunk and hilarity ensues throughout the rest of the movie.
Mo Oh, geez. Okay.
Jon ah
George um But it’s a fun diversion of a film. So if you’ve I think of this movie as like, if you, if you’re in a situation where, you know, you’re lot of stress that day or a lot of heavy things weighing you down, this is a movie that has a dark humor sense to it, but is, is light in spite of that.
Mo okay
Jon you know I was about to say, and before I caught myself, I was going to make a Pulp Fiction reference. Oh, you’re calling the wolf? I’m like, wait a minute.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Wolves. I just made the connection.
George Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Is that just a generic name for a cleaner that I didn’t know? Like shrink is a, is a, or is that just, they use that reference?
Mo Is that real, like, yeah, is like a thing?
Jon I don’t know. That was clever.
George Yeah, it’s, i I think it’s, I think it’s an homage for sure. um i don’t know if it’s an industry term.
Mo ah Okay.
Jon Great.
George It doesn’t seem like it would be, but because why would, right?
Jon yeah
Mo Industry term.
Jon I haven’t had much need to call one, so I’m not sure. I
George I’m just like, what would wolves have to do with cleaning up crime scenes? I, you know, I’m like, do they eat a lot of flesh or something out in the wild?
Jon don’t know.
Mo um
George And maybe that’s why they, I don’t know.
Jon oh Yeah.
George But It’s a fun movie.
Jon Hmm.
George It definitely could have a sequel, but it’s one of those that doesn’t need one, and I prefer it kind of not to have one, truthfully.
Jon Hmm.
George um But it’s it’s a good, solid film. Like I said, I was torn between it and another movie that I’ll try and talk about the next time, but I think this one is probably a um since it’s out of the theaters, it’s a definite watch.
George If you’re looking for some lighthearted fare that you probably don’t even realize has already come out.
Mo Okay, cool.
Jon but i
George So
Jon yeah I was kind of like, because I heard middling reviews, I’m like, I’m not even going to go back and look. But now everything you said maybe sounds like it’s something i’d want to see. So thank you.
Mo Yeah, it sounds interesting.
George it’s, it’s fun. It’s, it’s got a sense of humor, which I like.
Jon Yeah.
George So anyway, what about you, John?
Jon Mm-hmm. Yep.
George I think your thing kind of also goes to dogs and crimes and
Mo Yeah.
Jon ah kind You know, oddly, kind of. Yeah. ah You may have heard about it as a new film. It’s an indie film. I guess pretty indie. I guess got some distribution called Good Boy.
Mo Oh, yeah.
Jon And this is the horror movie seen entirely through the eyes of a dog.
Mo I’ve heard about this. one Yeah.
Jon So the premise is interesting because how many creepy movies or horror movies or anything have you seen, or even just detective movies where everything’s going fine and the dog goes and and stares at nothing. And you’re like, what is it, boy? What is it?
Jon And then they ignore the dog and they do whatever.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon This takes that idea that dogs are super sensitive to things that maybe are outside of the spectrum of what we can see and hear and detect and just let the dog walk through the movie and and figure out the figure out as a stretch, but experience the horror movie that otherwise people would experience.
Jon So that that’s the film.
Mo Okay.
Jon It’s called Good Boy. oh i was eager to go see it. I did go and see it. ah Here’s what I’ll say. Remember AMC scale that we used to talk about a lot, George, about you just go see for AMC or wait for streaming or skip it or whatever.
George Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jon This is a movie you ought to see, but maybe like the wolves movie. It’s a rainy day and you’re, you have other things to do and you want to watch an interesting film, but it’s not going to change your life. And here’s as cool as it is. The dog’s name, by the way, is Indy.
Jon We named the dog Indiana, right? So the dog’s name is Indy. Actually the dog’s real name. He’s the director’s dog. ah This guy, Ben Leonberg. It’s his dog.
Mo Oh, really?
Jon In fact, the end of the movie.
Mo Okay.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. ah So The reason I say just wait and see it on streaming is because if you took the dog out of it, it’s the most banal, vanilla, pedestrian, average haunted house movie you’ve ever seen.
George Ah.
Jon It’s nothing like, it it was people in it.
Mo and okay
Jon it would It don’t, I would say don’t go see it, right? Because it’s, the story is pretty predictable. It’s not that scary even. um It’s having the dog is what makes the movie worth seeing.
Jon And it reminds me of, they shot it almost like Muppet Babies. You know how there were adults in Muppet Babies, but you kind of saw their faces or they were obscured. You saw their feet and that was it, right?
Jon That’s how humans are in this movie. So they’re there really just for exposition. Like when the dog is in the room and somebody’s on the phone, because you’re trying to explain to the dog what’s going on, but he’s explaining on the phone what’s happening.
George Right.
Jon And so the dog hears all this and they use the audience hear it. And the dog is probably not putting two and two together, but is learning what’s happening in the world. and And, you know, ghosts or entities or something happen or whatever,
Jon the thing The only thing that makes this movie really, really stand out, a way I say you should see it, is because of how cleverly it was shot and what it’s like to see a movie like this through the eyes of a dog, knowing that no one’s really ever done this before.
Jon It’s kind of, you know, it’s groundbreaking. And I don’t know if ever need to do it again, because it’s kind of been done now. They said it took over 400 days to shoot. They shot it hour half hour and a half here, and a half there, where dog was tired.
George o
Mo gez
Jon They would stop, move on. Over three years, they did this. But it’s an interesting achievement, but not going to be the next big horror thing, you know.
Mo So is it like literally from the dog perspective, like you’re down at the ground level, dog eye level, looking at things and.
Jon No, no. No, no. No, no. It’s not like a first-person dog. It’s shot…
Mo OK.
Jon Take a regular horror movie and drop the camera about three foot. So instead of looking down at the dog, you’re kind of looking over the shoulder of the dog a lot of the time.
Mo Oh, OK.
Mo Gotcha.
Jon That’s not the only shot, but that’s the most common shot is kind of his perspective is what it is. And you see the dog all the time, right? So it’s not like, you know, a camera running around all the time.
Mo and Okay.
Jon It’s actually you see the dog acting and reacting and stuff. So, yeah.
George So not doggy vision, but doggy, like, third person.
Mo person Yeah, it sounds like doggy third person.
Jon yeah Yep. Yep. Yep. Doggy third person. So do see it. Just don’t spend money to see it. Wait and see it when it’s out already. And you’re going you know, your public domain in any way, George, to check it out. you you like horror movies.
George There you go
Jon So good boy.
Mo c All right, cool.
Jon Watch it. Just don’t go to the theater to see it. Mo, how about you? What do you got?
Mo So this is an odd movie. I found it in an article. I think it was in New York Times talking about like some of the best underrated science fiction movies out there. And it’s one called Beyond the Infinite Two Minutes.
Mo And the thing that caught me, which John, your ears are going to perk up as soon I say this, is it involves time travel.
Jon Oh, okay. I’m in.
Mo Yeah. um It’s a little comedy. its It’s a little independent movie again, like we talked about here has like a 97% Rotten Tomatoes score is like ridiculously high.
Jon Whoa.
Mo um And the basic premise is there’s like a cafe and the owner has like a monitor. He lives above the cafe and he has like a monitor that he can look into the store.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo you know, and see what’s going on. So he’s up there. You seem like, and it’s done like one of these one shot kind of deals where everything’s like, you know, kind of gives you that feel for it. So they follow him up and he looks at the the screens like in the background.
Mo And sudden his face is on the screen saying, Hey, Hey, yeah, look over here. Look over here. He’s like, what? And he’s basically explaining that, Hey, for some reason, these, this screen shows you two minutes in the future downstairs.
Jon Oh.
Mo Only two minutes though.
George yeah
Jon Interesting.
Mo And so the guy’s like, what do you mean? He’s like, you’re looking for something, right? He’s like, yeah, you’re looking for your guitar pick. It’s under the carpet. And he looks at the carpet. There’s a good carpet. And so by the guy’s like, oh, wait. And so he looks at his watch like, oh, wait, wait, you got to leave the room. Come down here and explain this to yourself.
Mo it so And it definitely doesn’t take itself seriously. is it It is a comedy. um And so like some of his friends get involved because and it’s a two-way thing. like it’s ah It’s like for some reason these screens you could talk to each other like a two-way video call kind of deal.
Jon Oh yeah. That’s weird. Yep.
Mo for some reason, like they only explain why they just say it happens. um
Jon Raisins.
Mo And he goes down there and course his friends are like having a good time. and like And they’re like, Oh, too bad. It’s only two minutes. You know, that’s doesn’t really like change anything. And the guy’s like, what if we bring the other monitor down here and face them to each other?
Jon Like looping.
Mo And so they do. And I’ll leave it at that. Cause you guys see what happens when they do that. And um it’s it’s a super, super clever, very funny movie that, you know, takes that whole time travel thing and just puts like a little weird edge on it.
Jon Wow.
Mo Because it’s like it’s you can’t really do much significance with only two minutes, you know, but they managed to get in trouble, of course, and you have to watch it. It was really funny and it’s short. It’s like an hour and a half. So it’s pretty short.
Mo So it’s definitely worth the time.
Jon All right, well, that’s the end of the show. We’re going to go watch this movie right now. so but is it Mo, is there, when when did this come out? Is there anybody in it that we would know? Or is it?
Mo you Nobody. It came out during 2020.
Jon Okay.
Mo I think they filmed it during the during the pandemic, I think.
Jon Okay.
Jon That would make sense, right?
Mo um And so they had a cafe that was empty for seven days, so they were able to film in there because they weren’t open.
George Right.
Jon Huh.
Mo um as It was definitely a low-budget, know, like indie kind of thing, you know, with a weird little storyline behind it.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And again, like said, new York times said like, Oh, this is a must watch. And I watch it. I’m like, yeah, I’m glad I watched that. It was weird. Yeah. And the ending is weird too, but it’s, it’s like you said, when they started facing the two things towards each other, it’s just hilarious.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Like, you know, I mean, you literally see like six versions of the same person talking to other at different times going all the way down.
Jon I can imagine.
Mo And how they coordinated too was really clever. So it definitely worth watching. It’s called Beyond the Infinite Two Minutes.
Jon Yeah, that’s it. Definite for me. Be right back.
Mo Alright, let’s jump in into Tekken toys with something that looks not exciting, really? But, John, what is this?
Jon All right, mister. I bought a robotic ink pen or whatever crazy stuff you normally do to me.
Mo I’m just, you you know,
Jon You know, y’all made fun of my bidet. You made fun of my stickers for my oven.
Mo that’s true.
Jon And anyway.
Mo That’s true.
George Still making fun of some of that, but okay.
Jon it
Mo Yeah, me too.
Jon i Well, that hasn’t stopped. Yeah. You know, I like to share things that are kind of mundane, but they improve my quality of life and get rid of pet peeves that I’ve got. And one of my many pet peeves, and I’ve tried many solutions for, I cannot stand when the fitted sheet comes untucked from my bed or the regular sheet comes untucked from my bed and my feet are hanging out and they I got to be covered up. I got to feel like a little cocoon.
Jon So ah yeah I’ve tried safety pins in the bed to hold it onto the mattress and things like that. I had these straps or used to have these straps around the bed that have these clips that trust everything for one reason, the other doesn’t work.
Jon And so I have moved on to a new thing.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon that I oddly saw like in a TikTok or Facebook short reel or something spooled by. And whenever I see that, I go looking for it on Amazon. And so I found the design of it. It’s a little hard to describe maybe in the podcast. So go definitely look at the link in the description if you’re at all interested.
Jon These are called bed sheet lock strips. And what they provide is they kind of make the corners of your mattress rigid with grooves in them that you can then put these frictioned locks in.
Jon So you put the sheets down over top, put these friction locks in, and it’s like a good square knot or something, right?
Mo Okay. Huh.
Jon The more you pull against it, the tighter it gets. So rather than when you pull against it, it’s going to wiggle itself loose. It actually used the fact that, you know, I roll around. Look, I rolled around 20 times at night on a left side, right side, back in my stomach or whatever. That’s what’s causing it.
Jon But the more friction you put on it, the more it holds tight. on the sheets that are around the bed. And plus I have one of those cool bed fans that it relies on the sheets being tight on the mattress to blow cool air up under the the sheets. Without that, that air just blows off into the distance and it doesn’t work.
Jon So when I tried these bed sheet lock strip things, I said, well, everything else has failed. I got to try one. So far, easy to install. Well, if you can get, pick up your mattress, which you have to do on the corners, ah but not too bad for me.
Jon They have not ah in about four days now. I’ve been using them. The sheets have stayed exactly where they were when I put them in. Now, I don’t they get a loosen over time or anything like that. But if you find the sheets that come and talk to pain in the ass and haven’t found a solution, this might be a good place to start because so far it’s the best one I’ve found.
Mo Yes.
George So I’ll clear it up for those of you who tried to understand that description to say from woodworking, these are corner clamps.
Jon No, go good. Take two.
Mo yes
George That’s all these are. They’re just corner clamps like you use for putting together boxes or picture frames or anything like that. They’re just designed for the bed with a little thin strip instead of the whole clamp on the outside part.
Jon Oh, there you go. What George said yeah on my bed corners. There we go. So yeah my description, George is much better pictures, thousand words.
Jon Check the link. If you’re interested, uh, you’re, you’re right, Moe. It’s not that exciting and riveting, but, uh, and I’m gonna throw it to you.
Mo That’s right.
Jon It’s now your responsibility to be exciting.
Mo no geez. Okay. well So recently started a new job and they have the most ridiculous password requirements.
Jon he
Mo You know, it’s like one of those must be 18 characters and you know must use special characters and upper lowercase and numbers and you can’t repeat characters at all. like,
Jon Three hieroglyphs.
Mo i’m like Yeah, exactly. I’m like, but but no periods or some weird little one caveat that just totally screws you up. um And so, and the other thing is that the way they have it set up with the company stuff is that it signs you off. Like if you’re away from your laptop for like a minute, it signs you off.
Jon Security.
Mo And so I kept forgetting my password, typing it in. It was just annoying as hell. So I decided to go looking for, I knew these existed, something that could basically just keep my mouse moving so it didn’t sign me off.
Jon Oh, yeah.
George oh yeah, ah wiggler.
Mo Okay. So I went and found one. It’s called the Vadir and it says undetectable mouse mover. And what it does is basically it’s like a little platform, a very small platform that you sit your mouse on.
Mo The center of it is a circle that rotates.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo So your mouse sits on it.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo The center rotates. Your mouse has a little bit of room. It can move back and forth a little bit, but basically it sees the rotating thing underneath as the tabletop moving is your desktop moving.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo So it moves your mouse for you.
Jon Okay.
Mo and it and it’s And it’s a little bit random. Like it’s not just a straight line back and forth. It like kind of like curves up. And then when it comes to the other way, it kind of curves around. So your mouse actually travels like pretty much everywhere over the screen.
Mo And then when you use mouse, you just take it off that thing. just use like a regular mouse. ah It works extremely well. You know, if they get gauging by my hours, that I probably have been working the last 48 hours nonstop.
Mo But it does work. And it saved me the hassle of having to type in that password, which was the real reason I got it.
Jon Yep.
George So first of all, I will say welcome to the world of security because I’ve been having to deal with this shit for the last 13 years at the state data center with and crazy security level sieges and FBI and everything else that I have to deal with.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Oh, man.
Mo Oh,
George Well, second of all, this type of device, you bought the War Games version is what I’m going to say. If you guys remember War Games, when you had that modem that he put his phone down on.
Mo yeah. Oh, yeah. sit phone into yeah
George You bought the War Games version. I needed to get something like this for my wife for the exact same type of reason you did, because at her work, if her screensaver comes on, she’s locked.
Mo yeah
George And at first, it was very difficult for her to retype in her password because of all the stroke issues and everything.
Jon Ah.
Mo easy
Jon Mm-hmm.
George So it was a lot better just for her screensaver never to come on. Now, if she was in the office, that would be a big no-no. But here at home, nobody cares, right?
Mo Yeah, right.
Jon Mm.
George So the kind that we got for her is a simple little USB dongle. And it has a little button on it where you can turn it on or off, but it’s just a USB dongle.
Mo Okay.
Jon Oh.
George does the exact same thing that yours does as the big physical device.
Mo oh okay
George So these have been around for quite a while.
Mo Oh, yeah. i figure I mean, I saw it on the ah the paper. Was it the guy who made one of those?
George Yeah. Yeah, they have one on there.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Yep.
Mo So that’s what I was. I saw that. is like, hey, I remember hearing about these things. And I knew there was actually some even some software ones. that But I’m like, OK, I don’t want to install anything on this computer.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mo So this seemed like the least intrusive that, you know, I don’t mess with the company equipment at all. I just sit my mouse on it and I’m done.
Jon So do you think if your employer heard this podcast, would they be happy that you bought this? Or do you think, I mean, that it is a security issue. I agree that probably what they have is aggressive for security.
Mo Yeah, very aggressive.
Jon But I mean, is there some companies have a policy, like literally stayating stating you can’t use something like this. Do you think your folks would care working at home?
George Yeah.
Mo They might. They might.
Jon They might, yeah.
Mo You know, um but, you know, but the thing is, it’s like literally it was actually even more ridiculous because when I first got the computer, I had to sign on, you know, and it said the first thing to do is change your password.
Jon Sure.
Mo And you know how they and they tell you, you know must be this many characters. You must have, you know, I’m like, okay. So I typed in this long ass password and it kept rejecting it, rejecting it. And so I called our help desk and the help desk said, oh yeah, they changed the requirements.
Mo I’m like, well, what are they?
George yeah
Mo We’re like, we don’t know yet.
Mo So they’re like, so just just keep adding stuff to it until it accepts it.
George Yeah.
Jon They have their own problems.
Mo another explanation point. Nope. Add more lowercase numbers. Nope. And so finally I got it. So I don’t even know what the requirements are. ah
Jon ah
Mo So it was it was crazy. But it was, like I said, really my real purpose was like, even if I sit up and go to the bathroom, come back, I’m signed off.
Jon Sure.
Mo I’m like, oh, you know, get a glass of water.
Jon Yeah, I get it.
Mo I’m signed off. and I’m like, oh, what is that freaking password again? Yeah. and um And the guy ah guy literally told me, write it on a sticky note and put on on your computer. I’m like, okay, that is even worse, I would think.
Jon He advised you to do that?
George Right.
George he thats
Mo You know, because told him, I said, there’s no way I remember this thing. He’s like.
Jon No, no, no, no.
George that’s the That’s the big alarm signal in every Know Before video you’ll ever watch.
Mo Yeah, exactly.
George Don’t write your password down on a sticky note.
Jon Yep.
Mo You know, and again, and if I was in the office, it would be a different situation, but I’m home.
Jon hear Yeah.
Mo You know, no one’s going to be, you know, no one’s doing a spy thing through windows to try to figure out what I’m doing on my laptop. So I’m not that worried about it.
George Yeah.
Mo So that’s what I got. How about you, George? What you have for us today?
George Mine is as just as equally trivial and non-exciting as the others that we’ve done so far in this segment. So I’m towing the company line. um I just bought a new pair of in-ear earbuds for um the trip that John and I are going to be taking next week as we’re recording this.
Jon but
George So actually John and I will both be flying when you’re listening to this.
Jon Right.
George If you listen to it on download day.
Jon um On the day. That’s right.
George Yeah.
Jon It’s releases on the day.
George I picked up a new pair because Amazon just had that big deal day thing that kind of came a little bit out of nowhere.
Mo Oh, yeah, Amazon yeah Prime Day.
Jon who Yep.
George yeah It was like a prime day. um I think I bought probably 15 different items during that sale.
Mo oh really?
Jon Okay.
George um
Mo Oh.
George And now I’m like, oh, maybe I shouldn’t have because all the stuff, like I see it now that the sale is off and it’s only like two or three dollars more. So I’m like, there really was no urgency.
Mo no
George But I needed this for the trip because… I hate when you’re on the airplane and you’ve got the noise of the cabin itself, which always kind of gives me a little bit of a headache.
Mo he
Mo Oh, yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And then you’re in an uncomfortable seat usually, unless you’re rich, which I am not.
Jon Or not.
George Um, and then you’ve got people around you that are doing their own thing and they’re not trying to be mean or obtrusive, but if one person starts talking, then somebody else has to talk a little bit louder and then another person a little bit louder.
Mo Okay.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And then before you know it, it’s kind of loud. Um, so I got JBL tune buds. These are in ear,
Mo um Okay.
George ah little earbuds that do have noise cancellation. So John years ago,
Mo um Nice.
Jon Good. Mm-hmm.
George ah
Jon Yep.
George before COVID, you had demonstrated the Sony over-the-ear noise cancellation headphones that were brand new at the time, brand new technology.
Jon Right. Yeah.
George And I was amazed. And I had never found anything since then that replicated that experience for a reasonable price. Because those Sony headphones at the time were not reasonably priced at all.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon No, there were a couple hundred dollars.
Mo Oh, no.
George They were John-level only priced.
Mo yeah they’re expensive.
Jon Yeah. Well, no, no.
Mo Yeah.
George They were… um But these little JBL tune buds work just like those Sony over-the-ear headphones do for me, at least from my experience and what I remember.
Mo Nice. That’s cool.
George They have an app that accompanies them on your phone, and you can even set the different types of noise cancellation so you can hear stuff around you or you can barely hear stuff around you or you can just cancel it all the way out.
Jon Cool.
Mo ah cool
George You can set different levels and um you can increase the bass or blah, blah, blah this. The Bluetooth, the one thing I always look for on that with any kind of earbuds is how in sync is the audio to a video that I might be watching.
George ah These are perfectly synced. I’ve had no problems testing it on Plex and Netflix and Amazon Prime. ah So I’m a big fan of these and they only cost me like 40 bucks, I think.
George And
Jon Oh.
Mo Oh, wow. Hmm.
George Yeah, I think right now they’re they’re probably a little bit more expensive. Yeah, they’re $45. So that’s what I meant by like it was just a few dollars of savings.
Jon Yeah, yeah.
George They say the list price on them is $99, so we’re saving you 50 blah, blah, blah percent. That’s bullshit. They’re always at $45 or something like that.
Mo he
George Yeah. good earbuds if you’re looking for a pair you don’t want maybe the super cheap $20 tozos that i usually go with but you want something a little bit more elevated but not you know dr dre beats or you know whatever the apple earbuds or any of that shit samsung 45 under these are really good
Jon Yes. Yeah.
Mo she she
George earbuds
Jon Nice. What about comfort and sticking in your ears? Well, have you run around the house with them or anything?
George I mean, for me, the medium ear tips work great. They come with three sizes, small, medium, large. So I would think most people would be able to find something comfortable.
Jon Yep.
George i I don’t, I checked, I shook my head really hard. They never flew out of my head, ah but they also don’t feel like they’re pressing on my inner ear wall.
Mo Okay, there you go.
Jon Good.
Mo Right.
George So…
Jon Oh, nice. Good. Good, good.
George Yeah, solid solid system.
Jon Yeah.
George I don’t think they’re anything spectacular, but just JBL, a known quality brand for sound.
Jon Yeah.
George For under $50 and noise cancellation, I’m happy.
Mo Yeah. That seems pretty good.
Jon That’s economical quality for what you wanted. What more could you ask?
Mo Yep.
George Yep. All
Jon Love it. All right.
George All right, gents, time to talk about games.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George We’ve all three got something in here. I’m not going to count Moe’s though, because it’s another goddamn cleaning game and I don’t want to play. But before we get to that, let’s talk about John’s, uh, kind of like, uh, I saw the live stream on this. It looked to me like it was Russian roulette, but with medicine.
Jon There we go. We can move on to Mo. Really? You’ve really covered it. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a game that’s currently in, it’s in early pre-release, early release.
Jon It hasn’t been fully released. It’s a beta, whatever, but you can go download it and play it right now on Steam. And it’s a fully formed playable game. That’s enjoyable already before they add the most important part that’s coming.
Jon It’s called side effects. And if you’ve never heard of it at all, it’s like Russian roulette, but with pills.
Mo OK.
Jon Oh wait, you might’ve heard that recently, yeah.
Mo okay
Jon It really is. years ago, my daughter turned me on to this game called Buckshot Roulette, which was literally Russian roulette. You sit across from the first person, you’re sitting across the table from this other weird looking guy picking up shells off the table that may or may not be loaded.
Jon Right. You put them in your gun and you and you shoot him or you shoot yourself.
George Yeah.
Jon You decide and you get these.
Mo okay
Jon You can get this these elements that can either test the shell by weighing it and seeing or swap an item with somebody else or force somebody else to do that.
Mo Thank you.
Jon So I think it’s the same company. I’m pretty sure. i was trying to verify, but they look so similar. This one’s called Side Effects. And it’s that game, but it really opens up the world of what could happen to you because they’re pills, not just getting shot in the head or not, right?
Jon Right. So you’re a patient who’s locked to this table and this machine will come out and drop a set number of pills and you have an X number of lives and X number of resistance.
Mo you
Jon So it’s like shields. If your resistance goes down, you will lose a life. Some pills will just kill you.
Mo OK.
Jon But the twist is that they might drop four of them and they go, here are the red and white pills.
Mo Oh,
Jon Three of them drop your resistance by one. One of them will kill you instantly.
Mo ah geez.
Jon Which one would you like to take? And then they start adding elements like things you can use to attack other people and it’s super creepy. Like there’s one that’s an eye extractor.
Mo Ah.
Jon And if you you choose to use it, this item, you put it on yourself, it sucks one of your eyes out of your socket, the other guy eats it, And is forced to eat it, and it drops his resistance by one.
Mo Oh.
Jon There’s another one that, yeah, there’s another one that looks like a pair of pliers, and you can use it to pull out one of your opponent’s teeth that lowers his resistance by one.
Mo Oh.
Jon Or maybe it will swap between them.
Mo What the hell?
Jon So throughout the game, you’re just trying to outsmart the other guy. They’ll start dropping pills that have positive benefits, like this one will increase your resistance, and But one of them will kill you or some of these will.
Jon It’s a very of things, effects that they can have. It’s already fun. Oh, and by as you’re playing the models for the characters, they get like their veins start turning green and pustules form on your arms out in front of you as you’re getting more and more infected with stuff.
Mo Oh,
Jon Right now, you can play against the computer. However, when it releases, their goal be able to play up to four people around a table.
Mo oh God.
Mo Oh, my God.
Jon So imagine you could pick who has to take uphill or who you can affect or what you can do. It’s a creepy game. I picked it because it was kind of a spooky season. It was Halloween. I’m like, this is an interesting thing to live stream.
Mo Yeah.
Jon It was really fun. I had so much fun with it. I’m eager to find out when the, they don’t have a release date yet. They have a Discord I joined, but, and when we get it, we’ve got to do a three-player live stream with this game because it’s just that kind of nutty.
Jon You try to outsmart each other and figure out what’s going.
Mo I’m game.
Jon So brace yourself, guys. We’re planning on having a side effects live stream when we can.
Mo Okay. Yeah, please.
Jon It’s the kind of thing that’s going to make us yell at each other, which is wildly entertaining for viewers. I know. So side effects. don’t know. I’ll give you the link to that live stream. If you please throw that in the show notes so folks can go and take a look at the game.
Mo yeah please
Jon It’s pretty cool. What about you, mo What have you been playing? ah George alluded that it’s more cleaning crap. What do you got
Mo Yeah, I mean, you know, I’ve been trying to find something to scratch that, you know crime scene cleaner bug because, you know, and there’s a bunch of it’s actually surprised me how many of this style game are out there, you know, and I tried a couple of demos and most were actually pretty boring and pretty silly.
Mo um And then I ran this one’s called cash cleaner simulator.
Jon Like money?
Mo So you basically launder money for Underworld, except the thing is, though, is that you’re I mean, sometimes money comes in dirty.
Jon Cash? Oh.
George Oh, okay.
Jon Oh.
Mo So you actually do have to clean it like. Yeah.
Jon yeah
Mo he And they have things like, know, if you have a machine, basically as you start, you get, every time you complete like an order, like someone says, you know, need a, you know, $5,000 in twenties and stuff like that.
Mo know, whenever you complete an order, you get money back for that. And then eventually you can buy like updated equipment. So you get things like a money counter or a thing that will, you put cash in that it’ll, you know, go through and look for anything that has like a smart bills, basically like,
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo by police or something like that. And then you eventually work up to getting these like giant machine counters that like you can put three different types of currency that you want. Though it was just a whole pile of cash in it. And then everything it finds as counterfeit, it chucks out the side, you know?
Jon Mm.
Mo um And then you eventually get to a point where you could get like, oh, here’s a detergent that I could clean off the marked bills so I could use them.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And it goes on like and on. And there is a story actually behind it that you know you’re doing it. You can’t remember why, but and as you go in, like the room like expands. It gets bigger. like Literally, like a wall like catches on fire and then goes away.
George Uh… ah
Mo and then and But you have this whole other area now to go into to to work in. It’s one of these games that’s not as good as Crime Scene Cleaner. It’s definitely not. But whenever I do play it, it’s you could blow an hour and not even realize it.
Mo I don’t know why.
Jon yeah
Mo it’s And just’s it’s not as engaging as the one, but for some reason, like, it’s that whole, like, got do the next thing kind of, that kind of pushes you a little bit, you know? um And I got, you know, it gives you that definite thing, like, oh, I got to fill this order.
Mo And so you do that next, you know, you’re like, oh, I spent an hour, you know, doing this stuff.
Jon yeah So are the mechanics similar? So I played your crime scene cleaner. You remember, right?
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Luckily, I was immune to its charms, unlike so many other people. But how would you compare the mechanics? Is it also like a first-person game? Is it also like running the same?
Mo Here’s the first person.
Jon does It looks like it’s a similar engine, though, kind of like the way it works.
Mo It looks very similar. Yeah, it’s very similar.
Jon Huh.
Mo You do have some handheld tools, you don’t really use them that often, quite honestly. um
Jon Oh, okay.
Mo But because you get it’s more like machines.
Jon It’s more of the machines, more on your tables, yeah.
Mo So you are picking up piles of cash. and Eventually, you get to to point where you get like a you know ah cart that you could throw piles cash in and wheel it over and you know use that instead.
Jon Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Mo it’s And then eventually you even work to like different currencies. So then it’s like, oh, someone’s throwing euros at you now and they want, you know, yeah then someone’s, oh, I want yen.
Jon oh Oh.
Mo And they, thought you know, you also get piles of yen that you’re working with.
George Uh…
Mo it’s It’s interesting. It’s, I said, it’s not as good as crime scene cleaner by any stretch.
Jon Yeah. I don’t know why. It almost feels more attractive to me because of like the money counting thing is kind interesting, but, huh, there’s the machine thing.
Mo And i said you said the money counter, you know, and it’s funny because you wind up setting up like this whole kind of assimilating.
Jon Anyway, I’ll have to try it.
Mo take the money here first. You know, well, do i i firstight do I have to wash it? Because people request like, okay, I only want clean, dry bills, you know, or and eventually someone says, hey, I need marked bills for some reason, or I need counterfeit bills.
Jon Yeah.
Mo So you kind of keep those aside just for those kind of weird orders that come in.
Jon Fill the orders. Okay.
Mo So it’s it’s interesting. it’s It’s not an expensive game. I think it was like 14 bucks or something like that. wasn’t terribly expensive. um And it’s, as you said, it doesn’t quite scratch that itch, but it is something that if you want to blow like an hour just to knock something out, it’s a good game for that kind of stuff.
Jon Cash.
Mo So, if and anyone anyone plays it, gets addicted, ah thought it’s fine.
Jon Cash cleaner.
Jon It’s Moe’s fault. Blame him.
Mo It’s my fault. I’ll take it. So how about you, George? What do you got for us?
George Yeah, so um I’ve got a game that has probably the most accurate title of ah any game that I’ve seen a little while.
Mo OK.
George The title is A Pinball Game That Makes You Mad.
Mo OK, that’s the title of the game. That’s the actual title.
George Yep, and that’s the actual title, and it does exactly that.
Jon It’s pretty straightforward.
George It’s a pinball game that makes you mad. So in that… It’s a pinball game. ah Boy, it’s tough to describe. So it’s more… Imagine if Douglas Adams decided to create his own pinball game.
Mo Okay. Okay,
Jon Okay.
George Instead of it being on a standard pinball table with a standard you know play field and ramps and bumpers and all that kind of stuff, it’s literally this cosmic-looking…
George flowing place and you actually are inside the pinball your character now you are put inside the pinball but you’re not looking from inside the pinball’s point of view you’re looking at it more from ah third person isometric point of view um exactly yeah um
Mo okay okay
Mo Like a top down, hopefully. Okay.
Jon like a monkey ball thing. Like your monkeys in the ball and you can see the play field. Like, okay.
Mo Okay.
Jon All right.
Mo Okay.
Jon Okay.
George There are very few controls in the game. you’re right or i’m sorry Your left mouse button controls all the flippers at the same time.
Jon Okay.
George And the object is apparently to just keep climbing up into this void of space that you can’t see because you can only see zoomed in section of the game at one time.
George um Some flippers are small. Some flippers are big. Some move you to the left. Some move you to the right. um The only other real controls that I can see that you have on the game, you have a way to speed up or slow down the gameplay itself, and you have a way to ah shake the table like you would with a real pinball machine left or right, but there’s no real table. It’s almost like you’re floating in space around these things and there’s like little cows floating off and little toasters and everything.
George And there’s even a goddamn British guy who does voiceover work and taunts you throughout the entire thing. And it’s all gravity based as well. So you know those games where you’re trying to climb up a mountain and you have to manipulate your arms or hands and if you don’t do it exactly the right way you fall all the way back down?
George That’s what this fucking pinball game is.
Jon Yep.
George So I spent 15 minutes with the demo um and immediately loved it and was mad as hell at the same time.
George So much so that I decided I need to stop or I’m never going to play the game again. So I went to the menu and And just like the name is the most appropriate name for a video game ever, the quit button is the most appropriate quit button I’ve ever seen in a game.
George It doesn’t say exit. It doesn’t say main menu. It doesn’t say desktop. It doesn’t even say quit. It says rage quit. And it does exactly that. It shuts the game down instantly.
George Now, when you come back, you’re right where you were. And the little guy is taunting you from some, you know, behind the curtain Oz kind of place. And he’s saying things like, oh, that’s an interesting new strategy.
George Fall all the way back down to where you started. Shit like that. It just pisses you off.
Jon I can’t hear Mo.
Jon I don’t hear you.
George I can’t hear Mo either.
Jon Not a word.
Mo You hear me now?
Jon Yep.
George Yep.
Jon We sure do.
Mo Oh, weird. Okay.
Jon Yep. All right.
Mo That’s funny.
Jon Yeah. What was it going to ask?
George I was pausing for you, John.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll pick it up here. Three. So what you’re telling me is this game is true to its name and it literally made you mad.
George Mm-hmm. Yes.
Jon And you’re happy about that.
George and i And I’m still playing it. it’s ah It’s one of these games where you can pick up and try to improve upon where you’re at for 10 or 15 minutes and then quit.
George So feels it fits right within my game-playing style.
Jon Rage quit.
George I’m over 50 now.
Mo Okay. Right.
George I can’t play a game for four hours at a stretch. I just don’t have that in me anymore.
Mo right
Jon No.
George I can play games for 10 to 30 minutes at the most, and then I’ve got to stop.
Jon Yep.
George The only game that…
Jon Yeah.
George went outside that mold was Mo’s fucking crime scene cleaning game where was like, God damn it. I got more blood to clean, but this one, it just, it’s just so frustrating.
George Yeah.
Mo Okay, so on a frustration level, to me, the most frustrating game I could remember, remember that one with the motorcycle? Like you have to like, it’s like a dirt bike.
George Yeah.
Jon Trials. Trials HD.
Mo Trials. How does it rate against trials as far as frustration? Good
George Trials is a walk in the fucking park.
Mo to know.
Jon but Okay.
Mo good to know
George I have played this game. I’d have to go look on my Steam account. I’m going guess I’ve played it for at least… Oh, let me i’m you know what? I’m not even going to guess. so Let me just go look. Where is a pinball game that makes you mad?
George Where is it? Because I think it even listed it under arcade. Well, let’s see. Install. Did I already? I might have deleted this fucking thing. I don’t know.
George Let me go look. Oh no, it’s under P. There it is. I have played this game for a total of 43 minutes so far with five minute increments. So that gives you an idea of how many times I’ve gone back.
Mo Okay.
Jon Yeah.
George um
Jon Okay.
George It’s, it’s fun. It’s maddening. It’s crazy. I have gotten past this look little elevator level section like three times.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George But when you go up to the next level and you find a resting point on a flipper, when you press that flipper, it shoots you across the screen and there’s a flipper in the middle.
George And if you don’t time that flipper, you’re all the way back down at the beginning of that fucking ladder.
Jon oh Oh. And rage quit.
Mo Yeah And race quit Okay
George And then the little British guy comes on and makes fun of you again.
Jon All right. Sounds like three winners. And a couple of them are just demos, but then they all have potential to make you mad.
George yeah
Jon Maybe George is the winner of the three of them, though. All right, cool.
George Oh, yeah.
Jon As we come into the last segment of the show, you know, we always like to take a few moments here to talk about the things we’re looking at and looking forward to between now and the next time we get to speak. And I want to start with you, Mo. I want to know what you have on the horizon.
Mo Oh, sure. um There’s a remake of Frankenstein that’s coming out the seventeenth I saw the trailer for and it looks super interesting.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George no yeah
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yep.
Mo It looks very modern-ish, but it’s still set in the same time period and stuff, so i’m definitely looking forward to that. I’m also looking forward to a game called Vampire Bloodlines 2. I don’t know if you know, but there’s a role-playing game I used to play called Vampire the Masquerade, and they came out with some really not awesome computer games for it.
Jon Oh.
George Oh, yeah. Yeah. yeah
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo This one has literally… It’s like three years late, I think, at this point.
Jon Yeah, okay.
Mo I mean, and I’m not joking. I think I’m only, if I’m exaggerating, it’s only slightly. um it was It had this release date, then it got pushed back, pushed back.
Jon All right.
Mo So finally, they have a drop dead. It’s coming out the 21st of October. so I’m going to probably hold off on buying it until I kind of see if it works and how many bugs it has. But ah that’s I’m looking forward to that.
Jon Hmm.
Mo What I’m really looking forward to is something I didn’t know was coming, which is… One Punch Man Season 3. Now, if you guys follow, watch anime at all, One Punch Man, he was almost, ah he almost got a little most of a cult status in the anime world.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo But basically, it’s a superhero who trains and is so good that he can defeat anything with one punch. So his like he’s depressed because there’s no challenge in the world anymore.
Jon Oh, poor baby.
Mo And the whole thing is him like, oh, there’s another villain. He’s like, oh, this is the guy who’s going to give me a good fight. And he hits him once, destroys him. He’s like, oh, well. And he only kind of walks off. um it’s It’s a super – and it makes fun of, too, like a lot the other genres within anime and stuff. But it’s it was super interesting. It was a series.
Mo The second season had to have ended – it had to be at least four years ago, I think, or three or four years.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo it’s been a while. So I didn’t know were coming out the third season and turns out they’re coming out on October 12th. So looking forward to that.
George Oh. oh
Jon All right.
Mo So how about you, John?
Jon Yeah. Right on the court. Yeah. ah So there’s a film based on a true crime that I knew about called Roof Man that is coming out. ah So real briefly, is this guy that was ah a criminal, but he was a really, really nice guy.
Mo Hmm.
Jon Like locked people in the freezer, but if they didn’t have a jacket, he like he gave him his jacket so he wouldn’t get too cold in the freezer. And he got the name roof man because he went to these like fast food stores and he would, he figured out how to get in through the roof because it was just a sheet rock up there.
Jon And it’s easy to get in and punch down with a ladder.
Mo Yeah.
Jon um But, but now there’s a major motion picture coming out starring Channing Tatum and Kirsten Dunst of all people.
Mo oh
George Mm-hmm.
Mo okay
Jon I’m really looking forward to that. It actually is out by the time you listen to this episode. It came out last weekend on the 10th. So I’m eager to see that. Your Frankenstein, you mentioned, Moe, is on Netflix October 17th.
Jon Yeah, it also looks like something I’m really interested in. It’s a very modern gothic take on it.
Mo yeah
Jon So excited for that. And as George mentioned, we have a trip coming up as you’re hearing this and releasing. ah We are on our way to Portland, Oregon for the Portland Retro Gaming Expo 2025. It’s the first time I’ve ever been to this show.
Jon Either of us have. And it’s I know it’s one of the biggest and best shows. And people say it’s a great one to go to. i just never it’s the West Coast. It’s tough to get to. But we’re going thanks to our friends at Allen One who make those cool recharge cabinets.
Mo Oh,
Jon um So we give some coverage from there and our YouTube channel, of course. So keep an eye out. for that. ah George, what about you? What do you have coming up on the horizon?
George Well, I’ve changed my looking forward to list while you guys were talking about three different times, just because there’s so much right now that I’m interested in.
Mo oh wow. Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Oh.
George um So first up, i my first new pick that I’ve switched to is Blackphone 2, which is the sequel to the original Blackphone movie with Ethan Hawke.
Mo um
Jon Yep.
George ah It’s coming out on October 17th.
Jon Yep.
George Looking forward to that, just because I really enjoyed that first movie quite a bit. um on october 17th as well there’s a movie that’s going to star uh lawrence fishburne and kate mara called the astronaut looks to be ah like a sci-fi horror where an astronaut is found in deep space in a capsule so uh but it doesn’t look like it’s futuristic too much so
Jon Okay,
Mo and Okay.
Mo okay
George kind of interested to see how that goes um you laurence fishburne had one really fun horror sci-fi film already it’ll be interesting to see if he has another one now after this um but the thing i’m most looking forward to that i’ve completely forgot until i was looking through stuff on uh releases.com chainsaw man the movie comes out on october 24th
Jon good yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Oh, oh, cool.
Jon Really?
George Yeah. So this, uh, it’s the Reze arc. I don’t know if I’m pronouncing that right, but I never pronounce stuff right. So it doesn’t matter anyway. Um, but the beloved anime that I and my son fell in love with, you know, a little over a year and a half ago, I guess it’s back as a movie.
George I don’t know if they’ll then break up the movie into episodes and release it that way, but boy, I’m, I’m really looking forward to it for sure.
Mo Cool.
Jon Yeah, i mean you and your son watched the heck out of that to the point that you’re like getting collectibles and toys and stuff from it.
Mo Very cool.
George Mm hmm.
Jon You just dove in.
George Oh, yeah.
Jon So that’s cool. Yeah. All right. Before we get out of the show, you know, I always like to thank our patrons and highlight a new supporter. But before we do, one of the benefits of being a supporter is the opportunity to ask a question that we’ll answer right here on the show. And Mo, I see you have a doozy for us.
Mo Oh, yeah. um So this patron is actually, it’s my wife, since she actually does as a patron, I figured it’s okay. So it’s a little bit nepotism, but who cares?
Jon Oh, a little nepotism. It’s good for you. All right.
Mo um So here’s the question. When I heard this question, too, I was like, Oh, my God, this is a great question. It is.
Jon Okay.
Mo If you could wipe out a memory of a movie you saw, just so you could re experience it again, like it was the first time.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo What movie would that be? And I’m going to add like, okay if you pick something like Star Wars, I assume like you forget all the rest of Star Wars movies, you know, so, you know, this is still there.
Jon Okay, yeah.
Mo And there’s just a big, a little caveat, but yeah, I thought this was a really cool one. Cause this, I came up with several off the top of my head, but I’m kind of curious what you guys might come up with.
Jon Yeah, yeah.
Mo So John, do you have anything?
Jon Yeah. Yeah. For different reasons. I’ll probably think in all the ones you’re thinking, all the twist ending ones that are, you can never rewatch the same way.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George John’s going to say Goonies.
Mo and
Jon I’m not going to say Goonies. You know, I already got my wish with Goonies. It’s like, I’ve never seen it before. Uh, yeah So i I will cheat a little because I have two different reasons. and I’m not going to belabor the point. One, I would love to just to re-experience again because I love the film so much as Wreck-It Ralph.
Jon To see that for the first time again, i was just so blown away with it.
Mo Yeah.
Jon but People that don’t know. I i saw that 12 times in the theater when it was in the theaters.
Mo she
Jon it’s I love that film. Anyway, but if for a more… for a like effect of the movie kind of thing, I would love to reset fight club. I loved the twist of fight club and where that movie went.
Mo e yeah
Jon And it’s been so overanalyzed that I can no longer watch it without looking at all the details that people have pointed out in videos over time. So I’d rather go back and experience it as a pure movie again, like I did the first time. So that’s, that’s my pick plural, I guess, picks.
Mo good ones okay yeah i mean for me i was thinking along similar lines that like it was one i’m like because the the joy of experiencing it you know the first time like something like star wars or close kind of something like that but then i was thinking like okay i seen was a movie that at the end of it i went holy crap you know um for me it’d be memento um
Jon yeah
Jon Oh, that’s a good one too.
Mo Because the first time I saw that movie, it was like it was great.
Jon Damn it.
Mo And then the ending, I was like, o whoa, didn’t see that coming.
Jon Yeah.
Mo and it And the whole movie just flipped its head for me.
Jon Yeah.
Mo like The whole movie just changed from that moment on. So that was a great one. So that’s probably what one I would pick. How about you, George?
Jon Yeah. I wish I thought of that.
Mo Yeah.
George ah Yeah, I’ve got like 20 that popped to the top of mind.
Jon Yeah. ah We don’t blame you. Cheat away. Right.
Mo yeah
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah, I mean, obviously movies like Clue would be great for that kind of a exercise, because not only would I get to experience that whole wonderful movie again, but all the different endings…
Jon Mm-hmm. Right.
Jon Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
Mo Yeah.
George Um, that would be nice.
Jon Yeah. It’s a triple.
George Um, alien, I think would be a fun movie to wipe your memory on because it does define a genre and it also twisted it a little bit because you’re led to believe that Tom Skerritt’s the main character up until, uh, a certain point of that movie.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo yeah
George and then you realize, no, it’s really, uh, Sigourney Weaver. Um, But I think the movie, if I could go back in time and have it just wiped from my memory so I could experience it brand new, and there’s so many versions of this film out there, um I think it would have to be Blade Runner.
Jon Hmm. Wow. Wow.
George It has ah very unique place in cinematic history.
Jon Okay.
George It definitely, i think, defines cyberpunk.
Mo Oh, yeah.
Jon Sure.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George it absolutely twists you up to this day.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George People debate the ending of that film.
Mo Yep.
Jon Yeah.
George um So even with people watching it multiple, multiple times, there’s still something new to be found. I think if I could see that one for the first time over again and experience in the current climate, that would be awesome.
Mo Yeah. That’s a good one.
Jon Yeah.
Mo I mean, it’s like one of my favorite all-time movies, but yeah, you’re right. I mean, the first time seeing that one, that was like…
George Yeah.
Mo it just blew my mind, you know, every part of that.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon yeah
Mo So, okay.
Jon That’s a fun question.
Mo Yeah, that was a great question.
Jon Yeah.
Mo So thanks so much for my beautiful wife for that question. um So,
George Make sure we collect her dollar.
Jon Mo’s got to say it’s a great question. Yeah,
Mo well, you guys don’t and you did. So, but again, um if anybody out there wants to get their question asked on the show, it’s really easy.
Jon yeah that’s true.
Mo Just go to genxcromp.com slash Patreon. Little is a dollar a month. Just give us your question and we’ll probably answer it right here on air.
Jon Yeah. but But you might be married to Mo to get your question picked. We’ll have to see how that goes.
Mo Get first.
Jon um Okay. All right. Yeah. And I do want to thank ah someone, a new patron who did just what you suggested, Mo. I want to thank… Michael B. He headed over to patreon.com slash Gen X grown up, opened up his heart and his wallet to generously support us with a monthly pledge.
Jon Michael, we’re so grateful that you did. We’re so grateful that you find something to enjoy in the content we create that makes you want to support us to make sure we can keep doing what we do and pay the bills and keep motivated and all the things that it takes. So we appreciate you. You’re joining a roster of amazing folks who have supported us for years and we’re so grateful to add you to the list. Thank you for your support.
Jon That then is going to wrap it up for this edition of the show. Don’t worry, though. We will be back in a couple of weeks with a new one. But next week is our backtrack. We pick a single nostalgic topic and dig in deep. I’m going to toss this one to George, who did the bulk of the work for this upcoming backtrack.
Mo c Oh, yeah.
Jon What do we have coming to the fourth listener next week?
George Yeah, once a year we like to go back 40 years to look back at the best number ones from ah particular year. This time it happens to be the 1985 Billboard Hits.
George Number ones only in this list, ladies and gentlemen.
Mo So many good ones.
George And let me tell you, we had to do a lot of extra work just to get to our standard format of 12 because there’s a shit ton of ties in 1985.
Jon Yep.
Mo Oh, yeah.
Jon Yeah, there are
George And we had to do some voting, so you’ll definitely want to tune in to see if your favorite number one made our list.
Jon Ooh, sneaky. Yeah. Yeah. Nice, nice, nice tease, George. Get him in the door. That’s the way it’s done.
George You gotta try, you know.
Jon You’re not going you’re not going to want to miss that one.
Mo wishes.
Jon Until then, I’m George. I’m George. Until then, who am
Mo ah george like he wishes
Jon interesting You won’t take credit for the backtrack. Okay. Until then, I am John. Thank Fuck. can’t talk. You’re not going to want to miss that one. Until then, I am John. George, thank you so much for being here, man.
George Yes, sir.
Jon Mo, you know, I appreciate you.
Mo Always fun, man.
Jon Fourth listener, it’s you. We all appreciate most of all. We can’t wait to talk to you again next time. Bye-bye.
George See you guys.
Mo Take care, everybody.
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Mo As someone who barely manages to squeeze in as a GenXer my memories include more of the 70's than those younger GenXers. Reading and movies are my passions with some video gaming thrown in there for good measure!

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