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Top Box Office Hits of 1986

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1986 was a massive year at the movies. Action heroes were larger than life, comedy was firing on all cylinders, and a few films arrived that would become all-time classics. From fighter jets and wise-cracking Aussies to martial arts showdowns and sci-fi horror, the box office was packed with unforgettable hits. Today, we’re counting down the ten highest-grossing films of 1986—the movies audiences lined up around the block to see and the ones that helped define the pop-culture landscape of the mid-’80s.

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Speaker Transcript
Jon Welcome back, Gen X Grown Up Podcast listeners, to this backtrack edition of the Gen X Grown Up Podcast. I’m John. Joining me, as always, of course, is George. Hey, man.
George Hey, how’s it going, everybody?
Jon You know it would not be a show without Mo. Hey, Mo.
Mo Hey, it going?
Jon In this episode, 1986, as you know, was a massive year at the movies. Action heroes were larger than life, comedy was firing on all cylinders, and a few films arrived that would become all-time classics.
Jon From fighter jets and wisecracking Aussies to martial arts showdowns and sci-fi horror, the box office was packed with unforgettable hits. So today we’re counting down the 10 highest grossing films of 1986. The movie’s audience is lined up around the block to see in the ones that helped define the pop culture landscape of the mid eighties.
Jon And 86, we picked because brace yourself 40 years ago now, 40, four oh years ago.
Mo Oh my God. Oh my God.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And it’s even worse for Moe.
Mo Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. yeahp
Jon Cause he’s, he’s older yet.
Mo Yeah.
Jon It’s crazy. Yeah.
Mo yeah
Jon Yeah, I’m feeling it. I’m feeling it. What did I do the other day? I did a video about something that came out in 96 and realized it was 30 years ago. i’m like, holy Jesus.
George Yeah.
Jon Oh my God. Oh, it was, it was quite a thing.
George Yeah. I was looking through bit by bit stuff for the upcoming episode and they were saying how, uh, we get to relive old classics like Pokemon.
Jon Uh, now.
George I’m like, fuck you, Pokemon. That’s not a classic. The hell.
Mo I’m sorry.
Jon Damn.
Mo ah
Jon um Hey, before we get to running through those top 10 box office hits of the 19, before we get to talking about those top 10 box office hits of 86, it’s time first for some fourth listener email. Now you can, of course, write in, as I said, via email, or you can message us on YouTube or on Facebook or Patreon or wherever. And this is a message from Steve B. who dropped us a Facebook message in response to our backtrack about Evil Knievel.
Mo Oh, that was a bit ago.
Jon Yeah, yeah, I think we did a rewind maybe a couple months ago, so maybe he picked it up more recently.
Mo hmm.
Jon So here’s what Steve had to say. Good morning, gentlemen. Hmm, let me see.
Mo Hmm.
Jon No, no, it’s to us. It’s gentlemen.
Mo OK.
Jon Okay.
George ah
Jon Just wanted to say, 1972 here, and I’ve been a fan of the show for a couple of years and just got done re-listening the to the Evil Knievel episode. Great show. Cool. Thank you, Steve.
Mo Oh, very cool.
Jon says, I lived in Butte, Montana growing up in the 80s. I went to high school there.
Mo Oh, wow.
Jon I went to church with Linda Knievel and their youngest daughter. Wow. I knew Robert, kind of, sort of. Didn’t see him a whole lot. He owned a bar there, but he was a major influence on my mortalsomem he was a major influence on my motorcycle riding for a while.
Mo that could be bad.
Jon Yeah, right?
George Yeah, right.
Jon Yeah. Watch out.
George What kind of influence?
Jon Don’t do what Robbie does.
Mo Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jon He goes on to say, I had an Evel Knievel bike when I was a kid, and I also had a stunt cycle.
Mo Wow.
George Oh, yeah.
Jon Yeah. My dad worked for Anderson Steel, which is the company who built the ramp for the Snake River Canyon jump.
George Wow.
Mo A lot of connections.
Jon Furthermore, he says, my dad still has the original blueprints for that ramp.
Mo Oh, that’s awesome.
Jon ah
George Wow.
Jon I would love to see those.
Mo That’s cool. I would love to see that.
Jon I’d love a scan. Yeah. Steve, if you, Hey, you hear this, take a scan. If you can get it from your dad, uh, with, I just, just to see, just, yeah, just to see.
Mo Yeah, I would love to see that.
Jon Yeah. That’d be neat. Neat to see. he says, anyway, this is ignorant.
George Like, did anybody write on the blueprint, this is stupid as hell?
Mo Yeah.
Jon This guy’s going to die. There’s an X. Here’s the point of no return. They will never see that guy again. Right. He wraps it up by saying, anyways, just wanted to pop in and say hi and love the show. Keep up the good work and take care.
Jon Awesome.
Mo Nice.
Jon Thank you, Steve. Wonderful. We love that you listened. We love that you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing your connection to that. I do want to see those blueprints. I’m not kidding.
Mo yeah Yeah, absolutely.
Jon I’d love for you to share that with us. Yeah, that’d be neat. if If you sent it to us, we’ll find a way to share it to other listeners of the show too. We’ll throw a link for them. so Hey, if you would like your email featured here on the show, like we do with Steve’s, it’s drop dead easy.
Jon Just fire off a note. Well, you can do what Steve did. Hit us up on Facebook or go to YouTube or somewhere, or email us at podcast at genxgrownup.com. We read every single one, we promise. And most of them, like Steve’s, will eventually make the show.
Jon All right. It’s time to get the, what did you call it? The tease last week, George? the The fake butter popcorn.
Mo yeah Stale.
Jon The stale, yeah.
Mo Stale.
Jon The the not really butter on our…
George Stale, no, stale popcorn fake butter. Yeah.
Mo Yes.
Jon Fake butter was fake butter.
Mo Hmm?
Jon That’s exactly what we’re going to get our snacks and head to the theater of 1986 top box office hits. We’ll be right back.
Jon We were saying before the show, man, this is going to be an easy show to record. It’s just talking about 10 of the best damn movies that we ever saw in our lives. It’s great. But it’s not just our opinion, right? So once again, we tasked George with filling out the list. whenever We don’t have statistics on anything and a a chart. It wasn’t a pick list. This is based on some real things. and The good news is George loves movies.
George yeah
Jon George loves spreadsheets. George loves money.
George Yep.
Jon So it’s really the major trilogy of everything George loves.
George Yes.
Jon Would you share with us what your criteria is and kind of how you got this ready for us?
George Yeah. Uh, if the movie was released in 1986 and it was in the top 10, it made the list. What the fuck? That’s it’s the in the title. What are you asking me?
Jon it’s Pretty straightforward.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
George ah now But it wasn’t very difficult. I mean, there’s plenty of places. I’m sure I pulled this out of Wikipedia or something like that. The only caveat that I’ll say is I didn’t remember, because I pulled these stats a little while ago, I don’t remember if this box office number is U.S.
George domestic or worldwide. And I went back and took a look right now.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George on a couple of the Wikipedia pages, and they don’t even say on these. They just say box office. So if I did a little bit more digging, i can tell you. But for right now, we’ll just say box office and leave it at that, and we can start whenever you’re ready because these are 10 movies that if we chose any single movie, we could do an entire podcast, maybe multiple podcasts on them.
George Save maybe one on the list.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George There’s one on the list that…
Mo I
George It’s one of these Sesame Street’s, this thing is not like the others, in my opinion. But everything else on the list is pretty much solid gold.
Jon All
George ha See that reference from 1980?
Jon Okay.
George There you go.
Mo was with you.
George Okay.
Jon That’s very nice. Very nice. The dancers.
Mo yeah sir
Jon Yeah. All right.
George So I want to start off with number 10.
Jon Well, let me dance my way over. ah Go ahead.
George Yeah, right. i want I want to jump off with number 10.
George $70,136,369 for Paramount back in the day.
Jon Not too shabby.
George Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
Mo Wow.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yep.
George Like, if you’d have told me this was on the list, I’d have guessed top five.
Mo Yeah, me too. Absolutely.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George but it’s barely on the list at number 10.
Jon Yeah.
George This launched Matthew Broderick’s career. We got some great one-liners out of this thing. There was a whole, I don’t know how many videos I’ve seen about 15 weird facts about Ferris Bueller’s Day Off and whatnot.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Mm hmm.
Jon Yeah.
George It’s an absolute classic. It is 100% an 80s movie, and it definitely deserves to be on this list.
Jon Yeah, no doubt. I wonder how much of that, you know sometimes these movies don’t hit when they’re new. They become bigger than they ever were. Now, this was in the top 10. It was no slouch.
George Right.
Jon But, I mean, back then it was a movie. Now, it’s Ferris fucking Bueller. Like, now it is ah it’s it’s it’s a touchstone.
Mo Yeah.
Jon It’s a big deal. And every time I watch Ferris Bueller, which is probably once a year or so, I’ll pull it up. I keep remembering that, i don’t know what happened to it. There was a sequel in production.
Mo Oh, really?
Jon I don’t know you guys heard about this.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo Uh-uh.
George Yeah. It’s in one of those videos, 15 weird facts kind of stuff.
Jon So, Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon So it’s not like a, you know, a legacy a sequel. When Ferris drops off the car to the two valets and they take it for a joyride, it’s the movie of the joyride.
Jon It’s about them driving the car around, putting the miles on it.
Mo Oh.
George he
Jon And the movie begins when he drops it off and ends when he comes and picks it up.
Mo That’s kind of i’ve kindve been funny.
Jon So it’s like a, it’s like a, it happens in the middle of the existing Ferris Bueller. And I just think, I hope that movie actually comes to fruition because it’s a neat way to expand on the lore of a film that’s already so, so rich with lore and so many like little details to learn and so many things that, yeah, it’s tremendous.
Mo Yeah, I really enjoyed the fact that it did a really great job of like kind breaking that fourth wall, you know you know, as far as like talking directly to the people and that have little animations or text would come up or whatever, you know.
George yeah
Jon It did. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Mo So it kind of just pulled you into the movie, made you feel like you were actually a part of it, like you’re a part of this experience because, you know, he was talking directly to you.
Jon du is
George For me, i think it’s the first time I remember seeing an after-credits scene.
Mo Hmm, that’s right.
George when he comes out and he talks to audience, what are you still doing here?
Jon Oh, sure.
Mo That’s right.
George The movie’s over, go home.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And that became like a touchstone. And we, I’m not saying that every movie started doing that after that happened because they didn’t, but as you started getting into the later years with the Marvel movies and everybody started doing post-credit scenes and it became now a thing that like, if you don’t see a post-credit scene, you get disappointed sometimes.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah.
George I remember Ferris Bueller as being the first example I ever saw.
Jon I think a few years ago, I’m thinking back, it must have been the 35th anniversary. It was back in the theaters. And I went and and and saw it in the theater again.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And I’d forgotten about the after credit scene. Because when i when I watch it, you know, just my digital copy, I watch it.
George Hmm.
Jon and I’m like, well, that’s over. I hit stop. And I forgot about that. And I’m like, wait a minute. How did he have an after credit scene? Now I remembered quickly thereafter. But it was a pleasant surprise because I’m like, that’s right. It was all part of the break in the fourth wall.
Jon He was right there with you in the theater.
Mo Right.
Jon Yeah.
George Well, but they got to it in a, in a very smart way because at that time it wasn’t common for you to stay all the way through the credits.
Mo Right.
George Everybody got up and left, but the way that they did that was they rolled the credits with the music over part of the ending of the movie with Rooney and everything else going on.
Jon yeah
George You know, him getting on the bus at the end after he’s been beaten the hell out of and all, uh,
Mo she
George I think that because they kept that going a little similar to, and these, I’m not calling these post credit scenes, but like when smoking the band that would do the, you know, the bloopers during the credits and stuff, it would keep you around during the credits.
Mo Blooper thing? Yeah.
Jon Bloopers. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
George And that’s what they did with Ferris Bueller. But then you got the black moment and then him popping back on.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George And it would been like, you know, when we were watching theater back in the day, I would have likely, and I did stay all the way to the end to see the Rooney credit stuff.
Mo Right.
George And then when it went black, I’d have been getting up from my seat, collecting my stuff and getting ready to throw my popcorn buckets in the trash.
Mo Yeah.
George And then I would have heard him coming back on. What do you doing here? And I looked back over my shoulder.
Jon Right.
George I think it was brilliant.
Jon You’re in the hallway, half gone. Yeah.
George yeah Yeah.
Jon Okay.
George Next to the Deadpool credit scenes. It’s by far my favorite.
Mo Yeah.
Jon All right. Let’s move along. So that was number 10. Let’s move along to number nine on our list.
Mo Yeah.
George Hmm.
Jon Mo, you want to move us up?
Mo Sure. So number nine was a movie probably nobody remembers. a Ruthless People.
Jon Hmm.
Mo ah It was ah put out by Touchstone, which later became Disney, and it grossed $71,624,879.
Mo So it did a little bit better than Ferris Bueller.
George if
Mo um So I knew this was coming, so went back and i didn’t watch the whole thing, but i kind of watched some of it to from to remind myself.
George I did.
Jon No.
Mo Now, it had an amazing cast. It had Danny DeVito, Bette Miller, Judge Reinhold, Helen Slater, who might remember was Supergirl in the old 85 movie, 84 movie.
Jon All right. Yeah.
Mo ah
George And the girlfriend and secret of my success, Billie Jean.
Jon Yeah.
Mo That’s right. ah Bill Pullman in his first movie, that was his first movie ever, was playing some a really, really stupid person.
George Yeah.
Jon Was it?
Mo Yeah. And the whole premise is that Diane DeVito and Bette Miller are married.
Jon Hmm.
Mo He hates her. He only married her for her money. She gets kidnapped. And so he’s happy because he was going to kill her. So he doesn’t have to kill her.
Jon Oh, okay. It’s coming back to me.
Mo So he’s, that’s right.
Jon It’s coming back to me. Yeah.
Mo So he’s, he’s thrilled. So he tells the kidnappers and it’s funny because want 500,000, which today it was like, really? ah We put, but you know, 500,000 and he’s like, no, that’s too much.
Mo And they’re like, what do you mean? He’s like, yeah, that’s that. No, she’s not worth that. You know, um it, I, I watched it. ah It doesn’t hold up well in my opinion, but I don’t know.
Jon no
George This may be the most 80s visual movie in the list.
Mo Oh yeah, for sure.
Jon e
George Every trope of 1980s design is in this movie. From the outfits to the set decorations to the furniture.
Mo h
Jon Sure.
George It’s god-awful. If Miami Vice got drunk and threw up all over your living room, that’s what they designed in this movie.
Jon wow.
Mo It would look like.
George But… I did watch the entire thing, Moe, so I subjected myself a little bit more than you did.
Mo okay
Jon oh wow
George The first half of the movie, god-awful premise, god-awful writing, decent acting, but I don’t know how much more they could have done with it.
Mo They did the best they could, right? Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Hmm.
George um But toward the end, there’s a few weird little twists in the character motivations that turn the movie into a triumph feel-good movie at the end.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo It’s sort of kind of…
George and it’s still not good.
Jon Damn.
Jon ah
George It’s just…
Jon damn
George It’s not worth your time. Even the weird walking along the beach into the sunset moment at the end of the film is not good in and of itself. Like it’s the worst version of that kind of thing.
Jon Wow. You know, even though you both shit on this movie, I kind of want to, I remember liking Danny DeVito in it. Like, I almost want to go back just for that.
Mo Yeah.
Mo Yeah. it’s it’s It’s funny because, you know, after watching the clips and stuff, i’m sitting i’m like, wow, this was really number nine. And so i dug up some some movie reviews of it.
George Mm hmm.
Jon oh okay.
Mo all the critics love this movie.
Jon Okay.
Mo Siskel and Ebert both liked this movie.
Jon ah
Mo you know and
Jon Two thumbs up.
Mo and and okay so And so part of that, when I saw that, I said, let me re-look at this, think about this from 80s eyes, from 1980s eyes.
Jon here
Mo And it probably… like some of the stuff, like the things that were like super eighties, I probably wouldn’t even have noticed we’re super eighties because we were living in the middle of it.
Jon Sure.
Mo You know, it was just, that it was what it was, you know, but yeah, but now looking back on it, I’m like, wow, fashion really sucked back then.
George Yeah.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon ah
George I mean, just some of the plot lines. I mean, Bette Midler’s character is kidnapped. And in the first scene, when they bring her into the house, they’ve got a sack all the way over her body.
George She rips through the sack and starts choking them and all this stuff. And then they put on these dumb little masks to hide their identities. And in the very next scene that they’re with her, they’re not wearing their mask. And there’s no explanation as to why.
Jon Yeah. Got a slapstick. Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
George Yeah, and it’s just, it’s it’s not good.
Jon Oh,
Mo yeah.
George Even from 80s eyes, I don’t think, I think the reason why it might have gotten decent reviews is because of the cast. I would bet that people like Siskel and Ebert with their thumbs up their asses back then probably wouldn’t have even bothered really watching the movie and just said, oh, it’s a tour de force for these, you know, illustrious, outstanding actors who who were in their prime in the day and some of them on the rise, you know, but
Jon goodness.
Mo oh yeah
George it’s just It’s not good.
Mo Yeah.
George There’s no part of it that’s good.
Mo Yeah, it’s the only thing if I had to pick, I’d like Bette Midler, probably the best of all the characters in it. But that’s just if I had to pick one just because, mean, honestly, even the her character, I thought she did.
Jon She’s great. Yeah.
Mo She did a pretty good job with her character, but everybody else was just so just I don’t know.
George It was so surface level.
Mo Yeah, exactly.
George So surface level.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Exactly. Like she’s the only one had any depth.
Jon DeVito was… DeVito is almost the same character as throw mama from the train, the same kind of like, you know, I don’t care about someone. I’m a little bit soured kind of and Vito plays that pretty well.
Jon Doesn’t he?
Mo yeah
George He does, but he was way over the top. If you took that character from Throw Mama the Train and then mixed it with the character from Taxi.
Jon e
Jon Really? Okay.
George Yeah, because he’s just mean-spirited and angry and vengeful.
Jon Yeah.
Mo This is not a good person.
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah, there’s no goodness to him at all, which is why he can’t be part of the good story at the end.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Okay, yeah. All right. Well, hey, that’ll get us started. But stick around. We get back from the break. The movies are getting better. And the payoff in the box office is getting bigger, too.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo So we’re going into these are all pretty amazing. So we’re getting into number eight.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah. So number eight is… ah You know, it it was inevitable we would see Eddie Murphy on this list, right? So…
Mo Yeah.
George From the 80s?
Jon this Yeah, right?
George Absolutely.
Mo Oh, yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon So, and this is not necessarily his…
George As long as he released a movie in the year we’re talking about, it’s going to be on the list.
Jon He’s in it. He’s going to be on the list. He’s going to be on the list. Yeah. And this is probably not his most highly revered film, but it certainly was a winner. The Golden Child that the got $79,817,937 for Paramount.
George Hmm.
Mo Yeah.
Jon for paramount And now I probably watched this one, um definitely saw the theater. Saw it maybe once or twice. Cause I like to say it’s not my favorite Eddie Murphy movie, but ah the premise is he’s, he’s a social worker and he’s informed that he’s the chosen one.
Jon Kind of like the like ah like a yeah ah what like the Kung Fu, right? Like he’s walking the rice paper.
Mo Yeah.
Jon like But he never thought he was. There’s reason to think that. He has to save this magical golden child that’s been kidnapped from Tibet who has mystical powers. And hilarity ensues, as you might imagine, right?
Jon So it’s Eddie Murphy, of Charlotte Lewis, Charles Dance. And it was, who directed? Michael Ritchie directed this one, surprisingly.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo yeah Let me you, this movie, I remember, I really remember the trailer because that’s what made me want to see it because it was like his whole very like, in the you know, every thousand years a child is born and one person must protect.
Jon Mm-hmm. Right.
Jon Yep.
Mo You see like this person trudging across the snow.
Jon That’s right.
Mo And all sudden it’s Eddie Murphy. What the hell is this? You know, it’s damn cold. what the he yeah And so I was like, it’s funny.
George ah
Mo So a couple things, like this movie was not amazing. I mean, quite honestly, I think if it wasn’t for Eddie Murphy, it probably would not, he,
Jon He made the money.
George It was better than best defense.
Mo Yeah, oh, by far.
Jon Oh, well. Oh, come on now, George.
Mo this that’s That’s not a comparison.
George I liked best defense.
Mo Really? Oh, okay.
Jon Wow.
Mo Anyway, so, what’s the type
Jon I thought you had taste.
George I liked it better than ruthless people.
Mo yeah
George I’ll tell you that damn much.
Mo of…
Jon Wow.
Mo A couple things made me really enjoy this movie, though. One was Charlotte Lewis.
George Oh yeah.
Mo Unbelievably gorgeous. Yeah, oh.
George Wet t-shirt.
Mo yeah And every and they had a couple little beats in this movie that just I really kind of liked, like how like they actually killed one of the previous golden child.
Mo and And they said something like compassion was lost or something like that, you know.
Jon Oh, that’s right.
Mo um So I was like, wow, I said, that’s pretty heavy. But again, not an amazing movie. i It could have been better. But again, you know, it was fun to watch.
George Yeah, and so i I think you might have a couple of things confused. This golden child was the one to bring compassion to the world. So…
Mo Oh, but they did mention one dying and they said, and and his loss was bubble out to the world.
George ah
Mo So.
George Yeah. ah So the um the thing that I remember most, ah of course, you know, Charlotte Lewis, Eddie Murphy, there’s two character actors in this movie who were…
George Placed very well in 80s films for character roles. One of them was a former boxer, Randall Tex Cobb. He plays one of the evil henchmen in this.
Mo Oh, yeah, yeah.
George He’s the one that has the soda can that gets turned into the little dancing thing that Sato Noomspa smashes later on.
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George And then… the guy who played egg shin in big trouble, little China plays the leader of the Buddhist kind of thing.
Mo you
Jon Right. Yep, yep, yep. Mm-hmm.
George And he has this beautifully fun interactive moment when he first meets Eddie Murphy and Katmandu, and he pretends like he can’t speak. He steals money from Eddie Murphy, gives him this crappy little medallion that he hates that ends up saving his life later on.
Jon but’s right
George It’s just, it was such a funny little moment because he’s sitting there and he’s like, and Eddie Murphy’s like oh here one dollar for you and then the guy takes a hundred from him and Eddie Murphy’s like oh no you took the wrong one give me this hundred back and I’ll give you the dollar and the guy’s like eat shit monkey brains and like what the fuck it was just so funny and the whole movie has little Eddie Murphy kind of quip moments like that
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon yeah
Jon yeah
Jon It is. Yeah. It’s the vehicle. another vehicle for Eddie Murphy.
George yeah
Jon I remember the scene that sticks out to me and in my memory is when there’s a, these trials that he has, he’s trying to get um a ceremonial dagger or something.
Jon And he has to go through an obstacle course without spilling any water from this glass.
George Oh yeah. Yeah.
Mo Yeah, yeah.
Jon And,
George Yep.
Jon And so like you, so you have the quippy Eddie Murphy, plus you have all this kind of ah physical comedy slapsticky kind of stuff, would he which he doesn’t, Eddie Murphy’s not known for that particular kind of humor, but he did fine with it.
George No.
Mo No.
Jon I mean, he’s he’s a physical guy too.
Mo Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jon And so he like did quite well. That was fun. That was, was a fun part of this movie too.
George I love the ending line of that when he finally gets a dagger and he’s like, ha, I got the dagger.
Mo she
Mo Yeah.
George Now turn on the goddamn lights.
Mo you
Jon ah
George Cause he was in the dark and he hated the whole thing. It was really funny. It was a good movie.
Jon Yep.
George Definitely deserves to be on the list. Certainly deserves to be above at least one of the movies that we’ve already talked about.
Jon Yep.
Jon That’s right. Yeah, it made its money. It did. All right. Mo, we’re all jealous that you get to talk about the next movie on the list, but we we we kind of we did Schoolyard Pick and you won this one.
George Hmm.
Jon So go ahead.
Mo Yeah, but I figured if I had ruthless people, I should get this one. So,
George Yeah, that’s fair.
Mo so ah number seven that made $86,160,248 was Aliens, sequel to Alien. One of the, and I remember seeing Aliens, like when I saw Alien, the first one, it sort of traumatized me because I was definitely too young to go to a theater to see that movie.
Jon Son of a bitch.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah. But when Aliens came out, was little freaked out about but it. But it was a different movie, but just as good. you know, it wasn’t the same as Alien.
Jon Yeah.
Mo It was a totally different type of horror, whatever you call it. But man, it was a great action movie.
George Oh, yeah. Yeah. It may be, it’s one of those movies, and a couple of them came out in the 80s, they were like this, where there are arguments to be made that the sequel might so be slightly better than the original.
Jon mm-hmm yep
Mo Mm-hmm.
George I think of this, and I think of Terminator 2 in the same breath.
Mo Oh, yeah, yeah.
George I mean, it’s just such ah from the moment that she wakes up and you find out the despair that she’s been in the ship for 80 plus years and her daughter is already dead to them being on the ship and her having to go into kick ass mode again and drive the the vehicle out from the places they’ve been, ah you know, just dying.
Jon yep
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah.
George completely destroyed by the alien hives to the ending with Bishop being torn in half. It’s just such a fun movie all the way through. It never lets up.
Jon Oh, man. Yes, you’re right. All of that also. No disagreement there.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Maybe better than the first one. The thing about the two is like the first one is like this monster in the building horror movie.
Mo Yeah, like more suspense, more.
George Yeah.
Jon And then, yes, and then Aliens, you get to see more because…
George Yeah.
Jon they know what they’re eff facing this time. And so you have the, the, the space Marines. I love movies where they actually make the appropriate. Now they still weren’t prepared, but they try to make the appropriate preparedness plan for whatever the monster is They’re not going in blind, right?
Mo No.
George Right.
Jon They got the guns and they got the flashlights and got the scanners and they got the trackers and everything.
Mo Right.
Jon They still get their asses whipped, but I, it’s such a different kind of approach to the same thing. It’s almost a different genre.
Mo Yeah. Yeah.
Jon And I think that’s why I think of, like you said, George, this one is better. It’s not, it I think it is objectively better, but maybe it’s subjectively better as well because it doesn’t retread the same ground. It’s like, yeah, you know the things we know about the first one? Here’s an entirely different movie in that universe following the same rules with some other people working on it. i It’s great. Awesome.
Mo Yeah, if anyone has, if you haven’t had the opportunity to see the uncut version, the director’s cut, I 100% recommend you go back, rewatch it, because it flushes out so much that explains so much about why Ripley was so, you know attached to the little girl, like how the little girl got there.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Yep, b yep, ye yep, yep, yep.
George yeah
Mo i mean, it did a great job on that. I still like the, excuse me, and i And I just love, like, the thing that got me the most is, like, how the Marines themselves, like, that’s what I kind of pictured a future Marine looking like, you know?
Mo Like, the guys with the big guns with the harness that they needed to carry it around, you know, and stuff like that.
Jon Oh.
Mo um I was watching a making of, like, all the weapons they had. They actually had, like, authentic weight to them. the actual weight because they wanted them to like be lugging these things around and and feel like they’re carrying something heavy and the best part was like when they ah realized that they got their asses kicked the guy’s like we’re getting the hell out of here I mean they couldn’t but the fact that they went that way he’s like yeah he’s like yeah we’re no we we’re done we’re getting the hell out of here we lost this one you know I was like wow it’s like that’s not the gung-ho we gotta do this thing that you usually expect from that kind of movie
George Yeah.
Jon you should.
George yeah
Jon yeah like you should
Jon Yeah.
George No, it turns into a survival tale at that point, just like the first movie did, right?
Jon Right. Mm-hmm.
Mo Right.
Jon right
Mo Mm-hmm.
George I mean, it was… I think they did a great job with it. um What… I think what sticks out for me is, again, all the different character actors that were prominent in films in the 80s, but you talked about the authenticity of what you thought a Marine would look like.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George Even though i don’t think very many of the other Alien sequels after this were as successful with world building, I think this movie is the main reason why we get the really good series that we got last year.
Jon Sure.
Mo Oh, yes, it builds off it.
George because this one is what their touchstone was to go back to.
Mo in
George They could go back to Alien, and it had a lot of great stuff in it, but I think Aliens informed the TV series far more than anything else did in the franchise.
Mo Yeah.
Mo Probably.
Jon Yep.
Mo Yeah, I agree.
Jon You ever mistaken for a man? No. Do you?
Mo Yeah, great line.
George ah
Mo That’s a great line. Yeah. The one thing I definitely remember seeing this in the theater is in the theater in New York, you know, when um Paul Reiser’s character, like at the end when they realize that he’s a traitor and he runs off when the door opens it’s alien, the crowd, the crowd went nuts in the theater.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George in
Jon Spoiler, Mo.
George Right.
Mo We started applauding for the alien.
George Yeah.
Jon Take that! Corporate dick, get him!
Mo We’re like, eat his ass, eat his ass.
Jon take that
Mo The only time we went for the alien, the entire movie, he’s worse than the alien.
Jon ah
Mo Yeah.
Jon corporate dick get him
Mo ah ah
George he
Mo Oh, man. So that takes number seven. George, what’s next on the list?
George Yeah. um Number six, Orion Pictures, $91,258,00.
George Rodney Dangerfield hits the list, Back to School.
Mo Yeah.
George By far the best Rodney Dangerfield movie, in my opinion.
Mo More than Caddyshack?
George It has, huh?
Mo More than Caddyshack?
George That’s not a Rodney Dangerfield movie.
Mo Okay.
Jon a starring role, a vehicle.
George That’s yeah.
Mo Sorry. roll Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Jon Okay.
Mo Okay.
George Yeah.
Mo I’m with you. I’m with you.
George That that’s ah that’s a movie that’s made up of a bunch of different people that he’s in, but this is by far the best Rodney Dangerfield starring vehicle.
Jon All right.
Mo Okay.
Mo Yeah. Okay. I’m with you.
Jon Okay. Okay.
Jon All right.
George In my opinion, uh, he, he plays, uh, an aging,
Jon i might be with you there.
George I guess, you know, clothing guy, tall and fat store runner, uh, that he’s become this multimillionaire.
Mo Tall and fat or big and fat, whatever it is.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah.
George His son is in college, but he’s disenfranchised. Doesn’t really he like the experience hates corporate America, bla blah, blah, bla blah, all that kind of stuff.
Mo Yeah.
George It’s got an, an off putting role, uh, with Robert Downey Jr. In it. Like he’s not central to the story, but he’s got a good little, piece in this.
Mo yeah
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George And then you have, this horrible teacher that’s out to get him because he’s in love with this other teacher that that teacher wants. And you got, so you got this whole love romance. Adrian Barbeau played a really weird character in it that she was married to him and hated him, but was with him because of his money.
George His son plays a, it you know, is a good character actor in there. But I think everybody remembers one thing and one thing only from the movie.
George And that’s the triple ending at the end of this movie.
Jon The triple indie, the dive.
George Rodney Dangerfield’s stunt double with the pregnant belly doing this triple platform dive into the pool for the win at the end. Oh man. It just, it’s so much 80s goodness and fun and just lighthearted.
Jon e
George mean, just awesome.
Jon Yeah. So you mentioned the one thing people remember the triple indie. And of course you’re right, but there’s a close second for me And that’s because my favorite up and rising comic at the time, Sam Kinison had a role in this and he was just basically being Sam Kinison and
George Yeah, I figured you were going to go there.
Mo Yeah.
Mo Right.
Jon just Just screaming, screaming the top of his lungs at people.
Mo Oh,
George With pussies like you.
Mo yeah.
Jon this
George but
Jon Now he was, ah so we lost Sam Kinison far too soon in an automobile accident.
Mo oh yeah
George Yeah.
Jon He had all of his demons and everything, but he was one of those rare, like amazing singular talents that you just didn’t see. He did comedy in a way that nobody else was doing it.
Jon Or if they tried, they didn’t pull it off. And they said, you know what? Just do what you do in this movie.
Mo Yeah, be you.
Jon And he did. And it was stellar.
Mo Yes, it was amazing. Did you guys know that William Zabka was in this?
George Yeah, he’s the he’s the bad guy.
Mo He’s yeah, he’s the bad guy, which totally I had totally forgotten about this.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo This is definitely one of those movies, though, that I went in like i was like, OK, you know, I was expecting, I guess, more of a caddyshacky kind of that’s what my brain was expecting.
Jon Yeah.
Mo But I was like, this movie actually has a lot more to it than that i mean i was surprised that like this movie actually had a lot more going for it than that like the relationship with dangerfield and his son was like i felt like that was like a real relationship you know like he cared for his son yeah exactly had a lot more heart to it wasn’t just jokes the entire time although like said there were plenty of jokes but it was i just love his dorm room that was the best part for me it’s like when they finally get to the dorm rooms and he open it up and it’s all one huge room and he’s like how can you let us how we’re gonna let a student like you in and also you see the new business office know the new business building for the blah blah blah yes right yeah
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Had a lot more heart.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Jon Because
George Right. When he’s reconfigured it.
Jon his was everything. Yep.
George yeah
Jon Yep. Yep. Robert…
George Right.
Jon ah
George And don’t forget, I mean, we get an appearance by Oingo Boingo.
Jon ah robert
George right?
Jon That’s right. Danny Elfman’s in there.
George They play a party in this one.
Jon Yeah.
George And Burt Young, Rocky’s, you know, ah brother-in-law, he plays he plays the heavy driver who he has some fun scenes in the bar fight that are very, very hilarious.
Mo oh yes yes the heavy yeah yeah
Jon Okay. Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
George I love that stuff.
Jon Yeah. And Robert Picardo, who was a big character actor back then before he got his fame in Star Trek Voyager.
Mo Kurt Vonnegut?
George Right.
Jon He was in everything anyways.
George Yeah.
Jon It’s not surprising that he’s there, but yeah.
Mo Yeah. I mean, and Kurt Vonnegut did a cameo as himself.
Jon Yeah, that’s right.
George He does as himself, yeah.
Mo and it was and and And then they write the paper.
Jon At the college.
Mo This person doesn’t understand Kurt Vonnegut at all.
Jon ha Oh, really?
Mo That’s
George And that’s Sally Kellerman for MASH.
Mo right.
Jon That’s right.
Mo Yeah.
Jon That’s right. That’s right.
George I mean, just, ah you know, like one of those casts that sneaks up on you. Like, you’re like, oh, oh, I know that.
Jon Right.
George Oh, I recognize that person.
Mo e e
George They’re not a list, but they snuck up on and they were all outstanding.
Jon Right. Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, is it’s one of those, it’s like watching old Twilight Zone episodes. You’re like, holy crap, look who’s in this.
Mo Yeah.
Jon You go back and watch Back to School, you’re like, look who’s in this.
Mo Right.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon All these people who went on to have great careers. Yeah. is is Where are we at? Are we halfway through? Made to the halfway point.
Mo Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Wow. Okay, so it keeps getting bigger from here. The money’s going up. We’re getting into nine digits. Top five coming back right after after this break.
Jon I’m first again for some reason. It was the same order. was just how we picked them. Okay.
Mo Yeah, he went Star Trek.
Jon No, I did. That’s true. Yep.
Jon Okay. ah Somebody else get in and pitch to me, please.
George ah Sure, I can do it.
Jon Thank you.
George five four three all right time to break into the top half of this list and the podcast is running long so i don’t know what the hell we’re gonna do we’re just gonna have a long podcast because i’m not gonna cut any time from anything i’m gonna say and i’m sure you guys aren’t either john the next movie up on the list is one that’s yours and it’s near and dear to both our hearts
Mo yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah. You’re right. We all have things to say. These 10 movies, we all have things to say about them.
Mo oh yeah
Jon That’s just how it’s going to be. Yeah. I mentioned we’re getting into nine digits. So Back to School just a second ago was $91 million. This is $109,713,000. the one whales, y’all. Oh, sorry. $132 on end there. Yeah. was rounding. Sorry.
Jon I rounded down.
George Wait, wait, how much at the end? You didn’t finish out the money.
Jon oh oh the ah sorry hundred and thirty two dollars on the end there yeah i was rounding sorry i rounded down
George Thank you. Because I might have been one of those $132. Hmm.
Mo Exactly. That could have been my $4 or $5, you know?
Jon Maybe. and And two dollars at the end. That’s right. Yeah. This is in fact, the one with the whales y’all. It is Paramount production, Star Trek for the voyage home directed by Leonard Nimoy.
George e
Jon Now this is one of those that look, he didn’t want to, he wanted to die in, in the wrath of Khan and he did, but then they talked him into coming back. And part of the coming back was he wants to direct and they’re like, okay, well you’re going to be directing the fourth one.
Jon And So the great thing about Star Trek 4 is you don’t have to be a Star Trek dork to love this movie. Some Star Trek movies you kind of do Motion picture, you kind of got to want to be there because it’s a little bit of a drag.
George yeah
Jon Because it’s, it’s you know, it’s enterprise porn for 20 minutes as if the fly arounds and stuff.
George oh
Mo V’ger.
Mo Yeah.
Jon but What Leonard Nimoy did with this fourth film in the movie franchise of the original cast is he found a way to put so much heart into it because they travel back in time.
Jon The whole deal is there’s this giant danger that if you haven’t watched it, I don’t want to spoil it. There’s this giant danger in the 24th century.
Mo It’s 40 years old.
Jon Well, okay. i don’t know And they realized the thing it wants, it comes to earth and it’s looking for something it can’t find. And it turned out it’s whale song, but all the whales are dead. So the solution is, yes, yes, yep, yep.
George Well, one particular type of whale.
Mo Yes. for Yeah.
Jon To so to get these whales, you can’t make them now. And don’t know, I guess they didn’t have Jurassic Park technology where they could just make them, clone them. Anyway, we had to go back.
George No.
Jon And so they they had a, yeah they turned a Klingon bird of prey into a time travel device, whiplashed around the sun.
George if he
Mo Sure.
Jon Why not?
Mo Absolutely.
Jon Oh, by the way, Christopher Lloyd’s who they stole it from. So Doc Brown is who they stole it from.
George Yeah.
Mo Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jon whiplashed around the sun, traveled back in time to the 80s, of course.
Mo Yes.
Jon And they and they they build a basically a tank inside of this spaceship and save the whales and put the whales in the spaceship to bring them home.
Mo Yeah.
Jon It’s got the heart of Saving the planet by whales. It’s not us that does it. It’s the whales. It has the heart of these characters living in our era. That’s very interesting and something that is a very easy entry point for someone that doesn’t know Star Trek and gets to know these characters.
George Right.
Jon Everybody remember where we parked when it’s cloak it’s cloaked and they have to drop in.
Mo yeah
George right
Jon It’s just all around a good film that happens to be a sci-fi and Star Trek film on top of that.
George I, after getting married and having been married now for a long time, one of the things that I just find ironic for me personally, for nobody else, the the two whales, they decided to bring them back a male and a female whale to the future to repopulate species.
Jon Oh, my God. That’s right.
George Yeah, right.
Jon i know where you’re going. i Right.
George The two whales are named George and Gracie. And my name is George and my wife’s name is Grace. So I always, every time I watch this movie, that hits a little bit different for me, which is fun.
Jon Oh, yeah.
George There’s a lot of great one-liners in this. There’s the transparent aluminum. There’s Scotty talking to the mouse with the Apple Mac.
Jon computer
Mo Yeah, that’s right.
George there there’s a little too much LDS and there’s the guy on the, on the bus who won’t turn his radio down and Spock has to nerve pinch him into.
Jon On the bus.
Mo Nerve punch him. Yeah.
George Yeah. I mean, there’s so many little moments and a lot of great like ad lib stuff from DeForest Kelly in this that gets not as much notoriety.
George Um, like there’s a scene where, um, It talks about, you know, everybody, let’s be safe. And DeForest Kelly is like in indignant that they didn’t include him in that. and he’s like, oh, we will.
George Just little things that are brilliant that Leonard Nimoy as a director allowed to happen. They did a great job with the budget.
Jon Yeah.
George They had a lot of interesting set design that they had to deal with on this, with the Klingon ship and the tank and the whale puppet things.
Mo really?
Mo Mm-hmm.
George Remember, John, the documentary, they actually built these like, like remote controlled, like what one six scale whales that they would shoot some of the underwater scenes with.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Right. Yeah. Right. Right. You shot them at high speed so that when they play at normal speed, they had the the mass.
George Yeah. Yeah.
Jon They moved slowly and had the mass.
George Exactly.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Yep. Yeah. Really clever.
George It’s just such a great production all the way around. By far one of the better Star Trek films.
Jon e
George It’s an even numbered film, so you know it’s good. That’s kind of the Star Trek mythos.
Jon You know it’s good.
Mo yeah ah
Jon That’s the mark of approval.
George ah it’s It’s a close second for in my heart next to Wrath of Khan.
Mo yeah What I really enjoyed about this is that it didn’t take itself too seriously.
Jon Right?
Mo Like, they allowed humor into it, which the other ones had no humor.
Jon Yeah.
George No. No.
Mo Like, this only had, like, real humor into it.
Jon But not goofy. Not goofy humor.
Mo No, no, no. it was it was It didn’t seem out of place.
Jon Yeah, right.
Mo It seemed like, you know, DeForest Kelly’s walking through the hospital, I’m going find Dallas.
Jon Right.
Mo He’s like, we’re just barbarians. don’t know. He gives her a couple pills and cures her.
George Right.
Mo know, take two of these.
George Doctor gave me a pill.
Jon ah
George He cured my kidney.
Mo yeah
George Doctor gave me a pill. I grew a new kidney.
Mo yeah um and And just the, um and also it was a time where saw that original crew again, you know, in its entirety, pretty much like intact.
Jon yeah
George Mm-hmm.
Jon yeah yep
Mo I think, cause I think there’s only one person was missing. If I remember correctly, right. Was Sulu missing from that one? Or is he there?
Jon he was there yeah they were all there they were all there yeah
Mo It’s been a while since I’ve seen it.
George No, Sulu’s there.
Mo Okay. So all of them were there.
George Yeah.
Mo Okay. So they’re all there, you know, and you can, you gotta get, and I still remember the part at the end though, when the doctor that comes from the past comes with them.
George Yeah, they’re all there. Yeah.
Mo you know
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Yeah.
Jon Carol Marcus.
Mo kirk is Kirk is doing his whole different movie but when ah Kirk’s doing the whole like hey you know being Kirk right with the with the female and she’s like yeah whatever else ill I’ll call you you know it just sort blows him off
Jon Or not Carol Marcus. No, though.
George No, no, no.
Jon that Different movie.
George Carol Marcus is Wrath of Khan.
Jon Different movie.
George Yeah.
Jon Different love interest. Sorry. ah
Jon Yeah.
George Oh, you’re from outer space. No, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space.
Mo yeah
Jon In outer space. Mm-hmm.
Mo but no it was just definitely one that was just it was just a a joy to watch
Jon Appropriate.
George Yeah, absolutely.
Jon Yeah. It still is. Still is fun.
George And still, we got 70 show Kurtwood Smith as the president.
Jon Yeah.
George Nobody recognizes him in this movie, but he was there.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Really?
Jon Yeah, is.
Mo Wow.
Jon He’s there. Yep. Oh, my goodness. I don’t want to want to break it, George, but it was actually George Burns and Gracie Allen. But I like your connection to it even better.
George Yeah, I know where they where they came up with it, but yeah.
Jon Okay.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Well, I know you knew, just in case listeners didn’t know.
George Yeah.
Jon How’d they name it after George and his wife? That’s amazing. Yes. so ah Let’s see.
Mo Oh, man.
Jon Let’s move it along, Mo.
Mo Yeah.
Jon You’ve got number four, the next one on the list.
Mo Oh, another good one. I mean, they’re all good. I mean, really, the i wouldn’t complain about any of these, but I’m glad I landed on this one. So coming in at number four at $115,103,979, The Karate Kid Part 2.
Mo the cridy kid part two
Jon Mm-hmm. All the way. Mm-hmm.
Mo Man, a lot of trepidation when this one came out because I, you know how we feel about the first one.
Jon Okay.
Mo All of us, I’m sure, felt the same about the first one.
George Oh,
Jon Oh, yeah.
George yeah.
Mo And like, I’m making a second one. How can you make it better? You know? And I’m not to say it was better, but it was good. You know, it was a solid, you know?
George It was solid.
Jon It was good. Mm-hmm.
Mo um
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo You know, to me, just the whole part, and if I guess people know this thing, like, you know it’s after the competition, and now he’s, they want to re-come back in and do the competition again, except now, you know, they have this
George No, no, that’s Karate Kid 3.
Mo Oh, I’m
George Karate Kid 2 is going Okinawa.
Jon That’s Yumiko in Okinawa, isn’t it?
Mo so i’m sorry. You’re right. I’m sorry.
George Yumiko.
Mo I’m thinking i’m thinking three instead of two. You’re right. Thank you.
Jon That’s right.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah, that’s right.
Mo So Crying Kit 2 is that
Jon Just fix it. just Just start again wherever you want and I’ll cut it off.
Mo Yeah.
Jon I’ll fix it.
Mo Okay.
Jon I’ll fix it.
Mo So, yeah, Crying Kid 2 is like, you know, it’s…
Jon Yep.
Mo I love this one, though, because the relationship between Pat Morita and Ralph Macchio, like, it just creates so much more of that relationship where they go back to his hometown in Okinawa.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And the fact that it’s like… It was a little sad, too, because this town is, like, not really there anymore because, you know, rich…
George Well, yeah.
Mo you know more or less is not there.
George Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mo You know, he can’t find it on the map. It doesn’t exist on the map anymore. know, when he’s like, where is it?
George Because of the naval base, yeah.
Mo You know, it’s, it was just such a solid, good movie. You know, some of it was little like, okay, they kind of take the same tropes from the first one again. Like this is exactly the same. Oh, big fight at the end. He’s got to do this, but you know what? I didn’t care. You know, I was, I was all in on it. It didn’t matter to me.
Jon People wanted more Karate Kid and you can’t blame them. And so there certain things you’ve got to give them.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And like you said, you love the relationship between from Miyagi and Daniel.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon You’ve got to build on that relationship.
Mo Yeah, yeah.
Jon And what better place than to go back to his hometown? And so here’s Miyagi in his world.
Mo he
Jon So take Daniel to Miyagi’s world. Now, ah very different than what he grew up with you know what I mean. Living in his town and his world and learning more about the man and his history that…
Mo yeah yeah
Jon somehow incredulously makes Mr. Miyagi even more lovable here.
Mo i
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah, yeah.
George So the movie starts off with the ending of the first movie.
Mo Yes.
George And that’s something that if you go back and you look at interviews and you talk to people who have were there when the films were, that original ending was supposed to be on the first movie.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
George They cut it because the studio wanted a happy ending, not a crazy looking ending on the first movie, but they still had the footage.
Mo Oh.
Mo Fight.
Jon No.
Mo Ah, smart.
George So they added it into this movie as a way to catch people up to speed
Mo Mm hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George from the original movie and bring that feeling back to them because then we get the time skip right after that scene.
Jon Yep.
George We get several months later, Daniel’s coming back to Mr. Miyagi’s house with his wrecked car because Allie, who’s not in the film, wrecked it and went off with a boy from college and fuck her and everything else.
Mo Yes.
Jon Right.
Mo Yep.
George Right. And then we get the letter and Daniel’s like, well, wait, what are you building out here? Let me put a nail in blah, blah, blah. And it’s because he’s building him a guest house because his mother’s going off for some new job and he can’t be there.
Mo Yeah.
George Daniel spends his money to go on the plane ride with him to Okinawa. It’s just a beautiful relationship story.
Mo Yes.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George between Daniel and Miyagi, and then between Miyagi and his father and his love interest and his rival, and then between Daniel and his new love interest and her former scorned lover.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mo Right.
George But the best part about this movie is that at the end of this film, if you have a heart at all, you’re singing that goddamn song and you’re maybe crying and you’re cheering and you’re celebrating in the theater.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon a
George And then… Almost 40 years later, we get a payoff with Cobra Kai for all of the storylines that were set up in these two movies.
Jon Yeah. Isn’t that crazy?
Mo Yeah.
George It was so good. It’s one of my favorite franchises of Gen X movie lore because they stayed true. I’m not saying Karate Kid 3 was great and next Karate Kid was a piece of shit, but…
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
George They stayed true to the formula every time they put something out. And you got to love that kind of dedication.
Mo yeah Yeah, for sure. ah To me, that got when they said that his father was dying. i mean, the first movie you hear like, where’s your latest father taught?
George o
Mo You mean, every single thing he knew was a so that’s you knew how important his father was to him.
George Right.
Jon he
Jon Right.
George Yeah.
Mo You know, like you knew already because his father taught him everything, apparently, you know, and and yeah you have to have a heart when he finally meets his, you know, his childhood love that he left, you know, and he’s like, why didn’t you get married?
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah.
Mo and He’s like, you never came back.
Jon oh
Mo ah ah ah you like ah Oh, you know, I used to it.
Jon Oh, my heart.
George yeah
Jon oh Oh, got me.
Mo was It was just just a good movie.
George Yeah.
Jon Damn.
Mo So, you know, the next one ah of them, sorry. And so the next one in the list kind of takes a left turn as far as types of movie.
Jon Not quite as heartfelt.
George Well…
Mo ah
George From this list that we’ve been doing so far, it’s definitely a little divergent, you might say. Orion Pictures, $138,530,565, traveled across the seas to Vietnam for the movie Platoon.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Oh my god, yeah.
George Ladies gentlemen, this movie holds a very special place in my heart as all these films do save one.
Jon Ugh.
George Uh, this, I had an uncle who was in Vietnam.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George Uh, I’m sure all of us had somebody with some connection to Vietnam at some point because of our generation.
Jon Mm-hmm. Family. Yeah. Right.
George Um, he um He went through a lot. he I did an interview of him in middle school for an article that I needed to write for a special paper that the teacher wanted us to do And ah that interview was the toughest thing I think I had done to that point in my life as far as interacting with another human being because of the stuff that he was able to tell me, but more importantly, the stuff he couldn’t tell me, I think, because he just couldn’t bring himself to talk about it.
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo he
George But he did tell me a story about how On patrol one night, NVA run up on him, firefight ensues, bullet whizzes right through his earlobe and kills his best friend right next to him.
Mo Oh, geez.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George This movie platoon brought all of those feelings to the big screen for me. Now, I know that there are people out there who going to say the deer hunter is the best Vietnam film or apocalypse. Now is the best Vietnam film.
George I’m not, I don’t want to argue with that, but for me, Platoon is my favorite Vietnam film that I’ve ever watched because it’s gritty. It’s real.
George Oliver Stone at the height of his directing career.
Mo Yeah.
George And then you’ve got the, the trio of main characters. You’ve got Charlie Sheen as the young recruit, and you got Willem Dafoe and Tom Berenger as the grizzled veterans that are playing angel and devil on his shoulder throughout the entire film.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mo Sure.
George And, Uh, it, it’s hard hitting, it’s bloody, it’s evocative,
George It makes you question what you would do in the situation of the different characters.
Jon e
Mo sure
George And it doesn’t place judgments to the forefront of the story. It keeps them back. But you do see decisions having consequences as the film hit reaches its climax.
Jon Boy, you’re not just whistling Dixie, man. I’ll tell you this.
Jon Like Saving Private Ryan for me, this is a film that as good as I know it is, I’ve never rewatched it after seeing it the theater.
George Yeah.
Jon No, I don’t.
George well
Jon Look, i’ve I’ve had the enviable position of never having to have been in war, right? And so I don’t like the way it makes me feel, just like Saving Private Ryan, because I can watch Aliens and go, it’s Aliens.
Mo Yeah, I get that.
George yeah
Jon But this is, um I mean, it’s a fictionalized version, but these are real things that happen to real men and women in the real world. And I’m like, damn, that hurts to know that that the world is like this.
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jon I like living in my insulated environment that I don’t have to see that every day. I know it’s out there, I’m aware of it. I’m sensitive to it. But, boy, there’s…
Jon Because Oliver Stone, he’s… What a visceral filmmaker he is, no matter what he’s doing. And he put all of that shit up front. And it it’s…
George Oh, yeah.
Jon Yeah, i i’ve I’ve watched it once, right? So I don’t have a lot of detail to reflect on. I remember the performances were amazing. But I just remember the feeling in the pit of my stomach all the way through it. I’m like, oh, my God.
Jon Really? Oh, my God. Like, I’d heard war is bad, but… That was probably, this film was what made me go, oh, now I get it. When you say bad, you meant this. Oh, damn.
Mo Yeah.
George Right.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah, for sure. It was definitely like said, it just hit you. It made me very glad I never had to experience it. You know, like I am grateful that I was fortunate enough not to have to experience this, but it had so many just like scenes that just stuck with me afterwards.
Jon Right? No kidding.
George Right.
Mo Like when Willem Dafoe is running for the helicopter that, you know, after they think he’s dead.
George Oh, the iconic poster scene.
Mo Oh, my God.
George Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo just it’s the fact Just the fact that they’re above, you see him running, and you see just dozens of people chasing after him, and you know it’s hopeless.
Jon Yep.
Jon That’s
Mo ah You know there’s just no way they’re going to be able to save him.
George Yeah.
Mo Just so many those moments, and just the… I can’t even see it. And Tom Berenger just knocked out of the park with his character. I mean, you first you admire him.
Mo at the beginning of the of the movie, because he’s like, oh he’s like the soldier everyone wants to be. And then you realize what kind of person you actually is. You’re like, oh, my God, I don’t like him at all anymore. And I thought he did a great job of that.
Jon that that’s that’s what that that’s what the world did to him.
Mo Yeah.
George Yeah. I mean, you had so many iconic performances and such great character studies and so many great scenes. I know, John, you’ve only seen it once. I’ve seen this movie. I probably watch it twice a year just because I see it pop up in my Plex recommendation.
Jon Yeah, i hear you.
Mo Yeah.
George I’m like, well, shit, I got to watch it.
Jon Yeah. Mm-hmm.
George uh just because i i feel like i’m paying homage to everybody who worked on the film plus everybody who experienced it in real life by watching the movie and trying to share in the experience through some minute way you you’ve got scenes with forrest whitaker in this everybody forgets you know he was in this movie in a couple of scenes um you’ve got uh like characters being
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George captured and then mutilated. Then you find them later on, like Manny characters, you know, finding improvised explosive devices and losing limbs and whatnot.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George um Johnny Depp is in a small role in this film.
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
George It’s there’s so many different people, but I want to kind of end this on at least A small, positive, uplifting note before we move on to the next section.
Jon Thank you.
George There’s one character in this who’s played by an actor. The character’s name is Francis, and he’s kind of the other green new guy that kind of makes it through the film.
Mo Oh, right.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George It’s played by Corey Glover. I’m just curious. Do you guys know who Corey Glover is and what he became famous for after this movie?
Mo No. Uh-uh.
Jon I don’t know.
George He is the lead singer of Living Color.
Jon Is that right?
Mo What? Oh,
Jon Huh.
George Cult of Personality.
Jon Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George Yes, that song that was crazy popular and is still an anthem to this day for a lot of fans.
Mo yeah. Yeah.
George Yeah, Corey Glover played Francis in this movie.
Mo yeah
George He didn’t have a big movie career, obviously. He went into music, but… I still, it’s one of those little trivia notes that I pride myself on like, oh shit, that’s him.
George When I, when I saw it years later after rewatching it and I was like, wait, that looks like, and it’s sure enough, Corey Glover, living color, cult of personality.
Jon e
George It’s at least it’s a positive out of this dark movie.
Jon it is It is a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super respect to the film. And maybe I’ll get back to it one day is I remember how rough I felt. This is so good. Okay, we’re we’re down to the last two. So this next segment is going a palate cleanser. we’re We’re shifting gears back to a little more a little more upbeat, some comedy and some action. So stick around. We’ll be wrapping this top 10 up right after this.
Jon We are wrapping up the list. 1986 top box office earners here. We’ve we’ve run through. we We have run through the emotional spectrum working our way up to this. We’re up to the number two now. Mo, why don’t you jump us into that one?
Mo Oh, absolutely. Number two movie. making $174,803,506, which i guess that’s probably my part of it, is a six, that um was Crocodile Dundee by Paramount Pictures.
Jon That that was your six. Yeah, that was it.
George Hmm.
Jon There you go.
Mo This was, yeah, this this movie had, this was, I think, of one of those lightning in a bottle.
George That’s not a knife.
Jon This is a knife.
George yeah
Jon ah
Mo I think they had everything perfect to make this movie at the right people, right places.
Jon That’s right.
Mo I kind of wish they stopped after this one.
Jon Yep.
Mo you know Because I think everything after just sort of diluted this movie a little bit. But again, it’ it’s a fun, fun movie you know about somebody doing a report of a guy in Australia who got attacked and survived after getting attacked by a crocodile and had to crawl miles.
Mo out of the And the paul hogan i mean sorry Paul Hogan, the main character, is ah is a character. like He is…
Jon e
George Yeah.
Mo He is like, and he takes him to New York and way he sees New York is almost optimistic. Like he thinks that, you know, this many people living together, it must be the friendliest place on the planet. Yeah.
Jon You, you know, you you crystallized something for me, Mo, when you just said, you know, how it was just kind of just, it all came together. Just right. This lightning in a bottle thing, because, know, On paper, this movie doesn’t sound like anything to me.
Mo yeah
Jon There’s something about the… And look, Paul Hogan wasn’t just a star. he was He wrote the screenplay. It was his story.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon and it just And you had these just had the right people in the right place with the right story and just the right… It’s the tone. It’s the tone of it. If you try to make it a little funnier…
Jon it’s slapstick garbage. If you try to make a little more serious, it doesn’t land.
Mo Right.
Jon You know, there’s some, it just, it just threaded the needle and it became not just a good movie, not just a successful movie, but it became like this cultural touchstone. If everybody was quoting it, everybody wanted to, wanted to have an accent like Paul Hogan.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Everybody wanted to do the, that’s not a knife. This is I can’t tell how many times my uncle, That’s not a knife. This is a knife. He had no accent, but he quoted it every time.
George Right.
Jon If you if you saw a knife, if you were in the woods, if you’re at his house, if you’re at the kitchen table, that’s not a knife.
Mo yeah
Jon This is a knife every time, right? It permeated and it was just, it hit just right on so many cylinders that you couldn’t rear you couldn’t reproduce it. That’s why the second one was like, eh, maybe.
George Also, I love how Mo said he wished they’d stopped at this one and you talked about the second one. You know there’s a third one of these?
Jon I did not.
Mo Really?
George There were three Crocodile do Dundee films.
Mo Oh, I didn’t know there third.
Jon No.
George Yeah, the third one is Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles. Swear to God, that’s a real movie.
Mo Oh my God.
George Go look it up.
Mo So it’s just like a escape from New York.
George Released in 2001, of all things. It was terrible. ah But… ah Linda Kowalski, she played the love interest in this film.
Jon Right.
George I’ve mentioned her because I want to talk just for a moment. This film got nominated for a lot of awards. It got nominated for best original screenplay for the Academy Awards, as well as ah best actor at the BAFTA Awards.
Mo Yeah.
George And he won… and by he, I mean Paul Hogan, won Best Actor for the Golden Globe Awards from this film. So it definitely had its laurels in its day.
George It was number two in the box office, so there’s no denying it was financially successful at that point.
Mo Yes.
Jon Right.
George I’m trying to remember what the original budget was. It was something very small. Yeah, $8.8 million.
Mo Wow.
George versus that 176 and, uh, or 174.
Jon Oh, damn.
George And I’m looking on Wikipedia. Wikipedia has a 328 million box office. So I’m guessing that the 174 is us domestic maybe.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Right.
George So it’s well worth it to go watch this movie. If you watch platoon an hour later, go watch crocodile and D and it’ll get you back into the right frame of mind to be happy because I’m
Jon ah Mm-hmm.
George Everything about this movie is just the fish out of water tale where he’s not just changing his view, but changing the view of people around him.
Jon Yep.
Jon People around him.
Mo Right.
Jon That’s right. 100%.
George That’s what I think really touched audiences hearts with this.
Jon Yeah, right.
George It’s kind of like Tom Hanks in Big, right? That kid becoming the adult changes the adults around him, and Crocodile Nundee does the same thing.
Jon yeah right
George And I think that’s why those movies were so popular, because it showed that optimism and happiness and love are real tools that we should all use.
Jon And that kind of movie is easy to screw up, is the thing, right?
Mo Yeah.
George Sure. Right.
Jon The story is a tale as old as time, right? A fish out of water and people learn from him.
George Right.
Jon That can be such of a trope. But when you do it right, like big, like crocodile, yeah, no kidding.
Mo Yeah.
Mo One thing have to call out is that the bar scene, you know, where he’s tucking the bar.
Jon e
Mo That bar was like four blocks from where I grew up. And that’s…
George Oh, the New York bar.
Mo Yeah, the New York bar.
George I didn’t know if you meant the Australian bar or the New York one
Mo Oh, no, no.
Jon Oh, yeah.
Mo The New York bar. The New York bar is…
Jon No, it it was more blocks from that.
George ha. Ha ha ha ha. ha ha. ha ha.
Jon Yeah, it was a few more blocks than four.
Mo Yeah, it was this.
George Ha ha.
Mo is Yeah.
George ha. Ha Ha ha. ha. Ha ha. ha.
Mo But only reason mentioned that it was like it was a bar that like they would serve pretty much anybody.
George ha. ha. ha. Ha ha. ha. Ha ha. ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha.
Mo So to get them in trouble.
George Ha ha. Ha Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha Ha ha.
Jon ah
George Ha ha.
Mo But I did go there quite a bit with my brother.
George Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
Jon Oh, I see.
Mo But but it was a great bar.
George Ha ha ha.
Jon I see.
George ha ha. ha. Ha ha ha.
Mo It’s called the 7B.
George Ha ha ha ha.
Mo But anyway, yeah, he said this.
George Ha ha. ha
Mo Like you said, John, i think he’s you nailed it. It’s like this movie could have been so easy to make bad.
Jon Sure. Oh, yeah.
Mo You know, any one of these things didn’t work out right. This is a horrible movie and we got lucky.
Jon And we got lucky. Yeah.
Mo So.
George Yeah.
Mo So John, you ready to take us number one?
Jon Yeah. I will. I will. Number one is located. It’s it’s adjacent to the danger zone. This is $176,781,728.34. lied about the opinion. Top Gun. goodness. We did Gun episode. Right.
Jon paramount noge lied about the penties top gun
Mo Oh, how much time do we have?
Jon oh my goodness this ah yeah well this is its we did a top gun episode
George I told you we’re not going to worry about the the length of this podcast this time.
Jon right Right, right. See also our episode all about Top Gun, if you’d like to hear more about it than what we truncate here.
Mo Yes.
Jon Because back when Maverick came out, we did an episode focusing on Top Gun, right? So, oh my God. Tom Cruise playing the youngest, cockiest, smarmiest, but capable fighter pilot with his buddy Goose. Oh, Goose. God, I love you, Goose. I miss you, Goose.
Jon the the
George Anthony Edwards.
Mo Yep.
Jon It was a, it’s it’s a, I’m going to call it an ensemble piece that has stars that were meant to be the star and that the ensemble is so strong and therefore elevates the star.
Jon It’s one of these like self, you know, the Ouroboros eating its tail.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon It’s like the the supporting cast made the stars stronger and the stars were so good it elevated the supporting cast. And plus just the visuals, the stunts, the… And you get that military camaraderie of these young, cocky guys who are living their best life, and yet they have to live this way because they are living the most dangerous life you can. These edge-of-their-seat pilots who, very real danger, as we saw. God, I miss you, Goose.
Jon such a I think I saw this at the at the theater. this the This is the flip side of Platoon. Saw Top Gun when it first came out. And you know how sometimes you’re buddies, you’re like, want to see a movie. What do you want to see? I don’t know what’s out. I would say, let’s go see Top Gun again.
Jon Let’s go see Top Gun again.
George yeah
Mo Yeah.
Jon I think I saw in the theater during its initial run about five times.
George So John was responsible for the 728 of the number, apparently.
Jon That was the extra $720 on the tail You’re right.
George You know, i saw a recent thing. um i guess maybe one of the algorithms listening on my Alexa phone call stuff or something. And it popped up a video in the YouTube suggestions for me where Quentin Tarantino discusses this film in a way that you will never expect.
Jon Hmm. Interesting.
Mo Really?
George He calls this film the highest grossing gay film of all time. He is convinced that all of the pilots in this movie are gay.
Jon ah
George And that’s the story that’s trying to be told. That’s underlying. Cause he’s like, look at it, you know, the girl is after Tom Cruise’s character and he doesn’t want anything to do with her until she’s in the elevator dressed like a man.
George And then he starts getting interested.
Mo Oh, geez.
George He goes over to her house and he walks away and doesn’t have sex with her. And it’s not until later on and look at him and Iceman in the shower. And, and what’s the last thing in the movie that he says, you can ride my tail anytime.
George Oh,
Jon ah leave it to tarantino uh well there is a volleyball scene that could give you ideas i so i expect so there is yeah there is that there is that
George it’s just so funny.
George Right?
George And that’s, what’s the song that they’re playing in that scene?
Jon oh damn what is it what is it what is it what but what about the boys what about the boys what is it playing with the boys play with the boys yes giggity
George Mm-hmm.
Mo Take my breath away.
George Nope. Playing with the boys.
Mo Playing with the boys.
George Yep. Mm-hmm.
Mo There you go. Yeah. Do you know that Val Kilmer didn’t want to do this movie?
George yep
Mo yeah Yeah, it was like, but he was under contractual obligation, so he had to.
George e
Mo And it turns out to be one of his like most notable roles, even though was a supporting role completely. But and, you know, I’m so glad that he revised that role to a Maverick. So.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo But yeah, I mean, they said we get.
Jon Yeah, that was ah just just to see him again.
George Yeah.
Jon Just to see him again ever so briefly despite his medical trial ball problems.
Mo Yeah.
Jon But wow.
George And they, they wove his medical problems into that story to pay respect to him.
Jon Into the story, of course.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
George That was so beautiful.
Jon That was touching.
George I mean, it, the, the movie Maverick, and we talked about this when we did the Top Gun retrospective, to me, it may be the best
Jon Uh-huh.
George like decade separated sequel I’ve ever seen.
Mo Oh, yeah.
George Cause it wasn’t like, they didn’t do it just a couple of years.
Jon Yeah.
George Like they did with aliens after alien.
Jon Yeah. 40 years later, right?
George Right. I mean, you can tell that Cruz himself loved that movie so much.
Jon Just about.
George He, I know he was a driving force. Why the sequel never got made. Cause he didn’t want it to be done badly.
Jon The diminished, yeah.
Mo Right. Just a money grab.
George ever they Yeah, they all kept trying to get it to be made because it was obviously $176 million.
Mo Yeah.
George dollars they They want to see how many movies have $176 million dollars box office in that day and age and don’t get a sequel until 40 years later.
Mo Yeah.
Jon 86. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
George This is only one I know of. Everything. there I mean, hell, Ruthless People 2 was probably on somebody’s drafting table at some point.
Mo I’m having to look it up because it probably exists.
Jon Don’t do it. Don’t do it.
George yeah
Jon Don’t it to yourself, Mo.
Mo Don’t want to know.
George Oh my God. But this was such a beautiful, this is the best movie of 1986 when it comes to Gen X nostalgia films.
Jon Oh, goodness.
Jon Yeah. They got my money. many Many times over.
Mo yeah
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah. How many times have you said, i feel the need.
Mo The need?
George Mm-hmm.
Jon ah you There you go.
Mo Yeah.
Jon oh
George Oh my God.
Jon All right. Okay. Hey, we we’re a little bit over. So look, before our listener loses that love and feeling, let’s go ahead and wrap up this episode.
George he
Jon Oh, one more. I got one more in. Yeah.
Mo yeah
Jon ah These are all great films. As I said, many could be their entire episode. A couple have already been their entire episode. Go back in the catalog and check it out. And I expect more will make their way. Now the front of our brain will go, how about we do blah, blah. blah George has already, he put ruthless people on the wishlist.
Jon He wants to do a whole episode all about that.
Mo Yeah, yeah, we could do a whole thing.
George yeah i absolutely did
Jon He said, Before I leave you, I want to thank a brand new, not I’m sorry, not a brand new, i want to thank and another one of those insane upgrade people over on Patreon. This happens so regularly to us, I can’t believe how generous our supporters are. Brian D. has been a supporter for a long time.
Jon And he’s already getting benefits. And he said, I just want to support you a little more. He logged into genxgrownup.com slash Patreon to his account and said, let me boost to the next level. I want to support you even more. I can’t tell you what that means to all of us to know that it’s not like you went from, I don’t want to support you to I do.
Mo Mm.
Jon It’s from, I want to support you and I want to support you more. Brian, thank you so much. Fourth listener, if you’re not already a supporter, we desperately would love for you to be. We desperately need you to keep our keep this all going.
Jon It keeps the lights on, keeps the, uh, keeps us motivated to keep getting these shows out to you. And recently, by the way, if you log in to genxgrownup.com slash Patreon and you sign up at that $5 level or above, you’re going get these podcasts advertisement free right there on Patreon, which is an extra little bonus.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Uh, so Hey, if you love the show, there’s one more reason, though one more thing we can offer you for helping us out. We sure are grateful for that. That’s going to wrap it up for this, uh, this backtrack, these, Oh man, these films, I got to go watch some stuff.
Mo I know.
Jon Hey, don’t you worry. be back in a couple of weeks with another backtrack. Next week is the standard edition of our show. Until then, I am John George. Thank you so much for being here, man.
George Yes, sir.
Jon Mo, you know, i appreciate you, sir.
Mo Always fun, man.
Jon And fourth listener, it’s you. We all appreciate most of all, though. We can’t wait to talk to you again next time.
George See you guys.
Mo Take care, everybody.
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