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The Long Walk, Galaxy Z Fold 7, & Adventure of Samsara

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We tune in for the brand new spinoff TV series set in the world of The Office, unfold some cutting edge mobile phone tech from manufacturer, Samsung, and play a game where a zombie outbreak is sweeping through Los Angeles.

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Speaker Transcript
Jon Welcome back, Gen X Grown Up Podcast listeners to this, episode 197 of the Gen X Grown Up Podcast.
Jon I’m John. Joining me as always, of course, my friends and co-hosts. Mo is here. Hey, man.
Mo Hey, how’s it going?
Jon You know, it wouldn’t be a show without George. Hey, George.
George Hey, how’s it going, guys?
Jon Good. In this episode, we tune in for the brand new spinoff TV series set in the world of The Office, unfold some cutting-edge mobile phone tech from manufacturer Samsung, and play a game where the zombie outbreak is sweeping through Los Angeles.
Jon is sweeping through Los Angeles. Those stories and many more coming your way in this episode. But first, look, the three of us are here. We may listen, but if anyone else does, that’s our fourth listener. And the fourth listener of this episode is Vince B. Now, Vince dropped us a line directly in Patreon, where he is a supporter. Thank you, Vince.
Jon And he’s talking to us about the Dark Tower backtrack. So let’s see what he has to say. Guys, just wanted to drop a line congratulating you on your phenomenal Dark Tower podcast.
Jon All right.
Mo Oh, okay, cool.
Jon Each of your podcasts is great, but this one really went above and beyond to recapture the Dark Tower magic. I felt like I was sitting in front of that game again, watching my party be decimated by brigands, only in a good way this time.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Thanks for the great content. Yeah. Yeah. we We did something a little different in that. We tried to like simulate what it was like in the environment and the the sounds and stuff.
Mo he
Jon i’m I’m glad that worked for Vince. So we yeah we appreciate you. Oh, I still, you know, I wanted to bring Dark Tower to SFGE this year, but just in all the packing and stuff, I didn’t know if we’d find time for I’m not sure we would have, but I really want to get back to play the original again before too long.
Mo No, probably not.
Jon But I’m glad, Vince, that you enjoyed this episode. ah We love it that you wrote in, and we love every time the fourth listener takes a moment out of their day to let us know what they thought of an episode they heard. If you would like your email featured here on the show, it’s drop dead easy. Just hit us up at podcast at genxgrownup.com. You know we read every single one and most of them, just like Vince’s, will eventually make this show.
Jon Okay. With that good business in the rear view mirror, it’s time to jump into the body of episode 197 right after this.
Jon All right, gents, let’s get cooking, talking about media that we have been checking out since we last spoke. Now, this this could be ah music or books or television or film or whatever it is you have been enjoying. And going to start with you, Mo.
Jon I’m a little jealous because if you’re going to talk about this movie, you probably have seen it.
Mo Yeah.
Jon So what have you been checking out?
Mo Yeah, it’s the ah the long walk.
George Mm.
Mo And ah I’m going to take advantage of the explicit expletive content warning we put on this and say,
Jon Okay.
Mo Fuck.
George Mm.
Jon ah That might be the whole review I need because I’m already excited for this movie.
George Mm.
Mo I mean, whatever you think it is, it is. You know, I mean, and people out there, the basic premise, and you get this from the trailer, is that there’s a contest where a bunch of young men are basically walking.
Jon Hmm.
Mo And the contest is the last one standing wins. But the problem is, is that if you fall below three miles per hour ah certain number of times, they kill you. And it’s all televised, of course.
Jon Hmm.
Mo You know?
Jon Oh, is it?
Mo um
Jon Oh, I didn’t know that part.
Mo Yeah. ah Mark Hamill’s in it. He plays the major, who’s kind of like the guy over the whole thing, and he always does these, like, rousing speeches, like, you know, you are the best kids, and you are America, blah, blah, blah, you all kind of stuff.
Mo And… and You know if you saw the trailer, you could kind of see already where it’s going. You know, you see ah a bunch of 50 kids walking, you know teenagers. um They make friendships. They become and and you just see what happens. I mean, it’s it’s just it’s brutal.
Mo um When there’s violence, it’s it’s brutal, the violence in that’s in it. your heart just hurts when you see these things happen, you know, because you see, you know, what’s happening to all these kids. And oh, my God, like said, it’s it’s not an uplifting movie ah by any stretch, but it is. But it was but it was very, very, very well done.
Jon Now, this is based on a Stephen King short story or novel or something, but it
Mo Yeah. A novel he is one of his Bachman books, I think.
Jon Was right it right?
George Yeah.
Jon Right. It was back before. was when he using the pseudonym Bachman.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah. And I heard somebody say, oh, it’s like the Hunger Games. Like, yeah, if the Hunger Games was the copy, because this was a Bachman book from the 70s or 80s.
Mo This is blood before that. Yeah.
Jon Right. Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Mm
Mo and and Absolutely. So like said, I don’t want give spoilers because you guys have to see it, but it was very, very well done. um They make you feel for the people walking the kids like you feel like feel them.
Mo You care about them, you know, and it’s and it is just a great movie.
Jon hmm. That’s what I’m
Mo And I said, I think it’s worth seeing is I don’t know if I would see it twice, to be quite honest, because it was tough.
Jon hoping. Like it’s brutal. Like the emotional ride is…
Mo Yeah, ah the emotional up and down it is just like, oh you know, so.
Jon Yeah, like ah Right. like like ah Like a Private Ryan. Like a tremendous film. I’m never going watch that again. like it It hurts so much to watch.
Mo Yeah.
Jon i’m I’m not necessarily saying this is on par with that, I guess. But I get the idea of it’s emotional.
Mo yeah I think it may be, but quite honestly.
Jon Yeah. Really?
Mo Yeah, it was it was extremely, extremely…
Jon Mm, damn.
Mo The acting in it was top-notch. You know, every kid is a different different person.
Jon Okay. Good.
Mo You know, like, they didn’t, like, have these cookie-cutter characters.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Like, each one was a ah person, you know, with layers and everything else.
Jon Good.
Mo Very, very well-done movie. Again, i don’t know if I would ever see it again, but it was extremely well-done.
Jon Yeah.
Mo I think definitely worth someone’s time to go check it out.
Jon Nice. glad. Good.
Mo Yeah, so on that… Weird note. Let’s move something a little more upbeat, john a George,
Jon That’s right. Exactly.
George The king of the transition, ladies and gentlemen.
Jon Yeah. Yep. ah
Mo Yep.
George Well, with that rousing introduction, I will start off with something that is a little bit more lighthearted and fair. ah For those of you who were fans of The Office back in 2005, I think, when it first started or something like that, yeah, it
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah, something like that.
Jon that’s right exactly
Mo Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jon yeah yeah
George There is a new show sort of based in the same universe. Well, not sort of. It is in the same universe.
Mo It is, yeah.
George But it is they get to this spinoff series in a different way than you might have thought.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George Rather than it being based around a specific character or two from The Office, this is based… on the fact that it’s the same production crew who were doing the faux documentary of the people in the office in the first series.
Jon Yeah.
George And it’s called The Paper. ah It is absolutely true to its roots. The thing that I noticed right away that is no surprise to anyone. They use all the same camera techniques in this TV series that they did in the original ones.
Mo Mm-hmm. Absolutely.
George And I don’t just mean like that it was, you know, people with cameras on their shoulders and a boom mic guy and stuff like that. Of course, that’s what you expect. But I mean… Shot transitions, for instance, when one person in the foreground is speaking and then another person in the background starts speaking, they do the exact same camera unfocused zoom to the person in the background and then true it up a little bit.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah.
George It was just really well put together. You can tell that it’s the same group of people who produce the office that are producing this. And I mean the American version of the office. course, there’s 27 different versions of the office around the world.
Jon Right.
George as most of you may know who are fans of the show.
Jon Uh-huh.
George But if you’re not, the thing that I really appreciated about this show was they didn’t try to just do a duplicate of The Office, but they kept it grounded enough in The Office that it feels familiar so that you don’t feel like you’re just being exposed to something new that feels foreign.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George ah There are characters… who in the main office, like we take Dwight, who was very antagonistic in the early seasons, especially, and they split his personality between two different characters in this show.
Mo Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Mo yeah
Jon Yeah.
George Then there is Jim and Michael Scott, and they kind of combine that those two characters into one character in this show.
Jon Yeah.
George um Then they the romantic relationships that were a staple of the original Office, they show you some of those starting to develop here and there, people longing for one another, the whole Sam and Diane dynamics going on in a one relationship.
George They have the dumb characters, but they’re not dumb in, say, a Kevin way. They’re dumb in ah different way
Mo but they are dumb I’ll be wrong
Jon That’s very kind of you.
George But they are dumb.
Jon Yes.
George Yeah. um And then there’s some people who play ancillary roles that are just brought in throughout the first season, which is 10 episodes long, I believe, that are interesting characters that, like, you’re like, there’s got to be some little twist in the character. No, they’re just that character. They’re flat.
George um
Mo Mm-hmm.
George And they’re it’s just really beautiful so far. It is nice. to 20 years later get such a refreshed but grounded in the original source material spinoff of one of American television’s most beloved recent television series.
Jon Yeah, I agree with everything you said. i and i think we were talking before the recording and you still have a couple left to watch. You’re savoring them. And i’ve I’ve finished it.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon And to that end, I’m going to give away anything in the last.
Mo So have i
Jon i’m gonna give away anything in case no one’s watched this before. But I saw a couple of interesting reviews I’ve been reading because I also really dug it. I think I’ve watched the whole 10 episodes twice now.
Mo Oh, wow.
George Oh, yeah.
Jon Because i I had a trip, so I watched some on the plane and in a hotel.
Mo Hmm.
Jon and yeah But someone said, now I get why the UK people didn’t care for the US office right away. Because in a similar way, they’re like, how does my show I love map onto this new US office? and said Because I think I have that feeling watching the paper. Not me, this article I read.
Jon They’re trying to look for, okay, what are the parallels? And you were just saying, well, this character is kind of broken up into two.
Mo Yeah.
Jon You’re looking for the archetypes. And I did find those little connections, how, you know, kind of these two people are Dwight and kind of they took these these super inappropriate things that Michael Scott used to do, gave them to this woman and, you know, those so sort sorts of things.
Jon But for me, I never spent… I never watched The Office in the initial run. I didn’t watch it until on DVD and reruns and stuff later. And I’m enjoying this one right now more than The Office.
Jon I’m mad there’s only 10 episodes. I can’t go binge all hundred whatever, you know, because it tells such a great story.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And it’s about journalism, which I have a background in.
Mo yeah
Jon So like I have a connection and I get some of the the torment people are going through about, well, do I talk about this because this company is an advertiser, that sorts of things.
George yeah
Jon It’s really interesting on ah many levels for me and very… Lighthearted and easy to watch too. It’s just fun. Yeah.
George And that’s what I was going to get to just a little bit because I didn’t give the premise of the show and I should have. It’s called The Paper because it is ah focused around a group of individuals trying to put out a local newspaper.
Jon so Right, right.
Jon Right.
Mo Right.
George But… Oddly enough, they are owned by a parent corporation that produces paper products, which is how one character, Oscar Nunez, ended up in this situation because he got transferred from the original Scranton branch to this is in Akron, Ohio, if I remember correctly.
Mo right
Jon Right.
Jon I think, yeah.
George And it’s because…
Jon It’s
George the Dunder Mifflin company got bought by that big parent corporation and he is been moved into the distribution.
Mo yeah
Jon a clever connection.
George It’s and just a nice little true thread, even to the point of the little, the little, uh, like between the cold open and the main thing, the little title scenes and stuff,
Jon Mm-hmm.
George how in the original show, last little shot is of the name plate that says office. And then they put the above it in here.
Mo Yeah.
George It’s a trash can being a recycling trash can that says paper. And then they put the above paper as somebody is throwing the Toledo truth teller into it’s Toledo, not Akron.
Jon That’s right. The paper.
George There you go. Toledo.
Mo Yeah, Toledo. Yeah, you’re right.
George Um,
Mo TT, yeah.
George the Toledo True Teller into the recycling bin, not because it was being read, but because it was like the lining of somebody’s like discarded food tray.
Mo Or a bird tray or bird cage or something like that.
Jon Right.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo Yeah. let me say and the ah I think they do a great job of just like not like ramping some characters up to 11. Like, you know, a lot of characters are like the normal level.
Mo Right. But they have there’s two characters, especially like Esmeralda.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Oh, my God. You know, they like, OK, how do we give somebody who has zero shame, like absolutely none at all and just make her like I mean, she’s even beyond Michael.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo I mean, she’s just.
George Well, she’s not Michael. She’s Dwight.
Mo No, no.
George She’s a split off of Dwight because she’s malicious.
Mo But she’s even beyond.
George Michael was never malicious.
Mo Yeah. No, never. You know, but the thing is that it’s funny how they make a character like that, but somehow they can make you care or still care about them. You know, like you still feel, you know, it’s hard.
Jon That’s the trick. Yeah. Yeah.
George I mean, but little bit.
Mo It’s a hard thing to do sometimes, you know, to.
George I don’t know that I care about her quite as much so I do some of the other characters yet.
Mo Oh, no, not as much. Maybe not as much, but you still, but it’s not like, you know, yeah there was going to say, but there was an episode where she was one of the main characters in it.
George She…
Mo And at the end of that episode, I was like, oh, I actually kind of feel for her.
George Well, it looked like she might get in some big trouble and get fired and all this stuff.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Mo Mm hmm.
George And so you did because she brought in the whole single mother thing a little bit in that episode.
Jon Yeah.
George And we thought, yeah oh, she’s turning a corner. Now she’s going to be nice to Domino Gleeson’s character, by the way, who Domino Gleeson is a tremendous grab in this series.
Jon Nah.
Mo no
George I know he’s a little bit unheralded in the U.S.
Jon He’s great.
George s He only… might be known in the Harry Potter world to us because he was one of the Weasley brothers, but he still…
Jon Ah, that’s where I know him from.
Mo Oh my God, that’s where he’s from.
Jon Aha! Thank you!
George Okay, come on, guys!
Mo oh my God.
George I can’t be the only one.
Jon like No, didn’t!
Mo I know I seriously I didn’t make the connection at all.
Jon No.
George ah Well, you know his father was Mad-Eye Moody in the Harry Potter films, and now he was one of the Weasley…
Mo That’s right.
George He was the oldest Weasley brother who was training dragons, so…
Mo That’s really holy crap.
Jon Makes sense.
George Yeah. Yeah.
Mo I did not make the connection.
George So anyway,
Jon It’s fun. What a great show.
Mo Yeah.
George he’s a great grab for the lead role in this series. He is a tremendous actor. He is outstanding.
Mo Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
George ah
Jon Yeah.
George And then you got the familiarity all the way back down to the Oscar role. I love, you’ve probably seen the trailers if you’re interested in the series at all, where he’s like, no, use this, fuck you. And he’s like…
George You know, he’s trying to avoid it. But then, of course, he just gets pulled in because Oscar, at his core, loves attention.
Mo yeah
George And he loves to be praised for his intelligence. He, you know, it so it’s just a really fun series.
Jon That’ll
George If you’ve watched something like The Long Walk recently and you need a palate cleanser from that.
Jon fix you. Yeah.
Mo I mean, in all honesty, we came back from the movie and we watched the last two episodes of the paper.
Jon but
George Yeah, I could believe it.
Mo Yeah.
Jon that’ll that’ll fix yeah yeah
George Yeah, because it’s really worth it. It’s just a good series. The original Office started off with just a very few episodes. Might have been 10 or 12. I have to go back and take a look.
George But that first season didn’t have a ton of episodes. They’re doing a similar thing here. I just hope that with a season two, a season three, they’re given enough room and breath because the Office itself was almost canceled in season one and two.
Jon Oh yeah.
Mo yeah
Mo Right. Yeah.
Jon That’s right.
George I hope that they give this one enough runway so that it can find its own groove. I really think it’s going to contribute to the landscape of these, like, I’m going to call them uncomfortable workplace comedies because there is a plethora of those out there.
George You’re talking about The Office, you’re talking about Parks and Rec, Abbott Elementary.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Right.
Mo yeah
Jon Sure.
George There are a whole bunch of these series out there that have been modeled after that format, and the paper absolutely deserves its place.
Jon Sure.
George So hopefully…
Mo Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Yep.
George it will stand a little bit of a test of time. I don’t know if we’ll get to nine seasons, but if we can at least get to three or four, I’ll be a happy guy.
Mo yeah
Jon Agreed.
Mo yep
George So now, John, the thing you’ve got on the list is something that made me happy back in the day.
Jon Yep. Yep. Mm-hmm.
George i don’t know why you’re talking about it now, because this thing is over 40 years, unless it’s something different.
Jon Oh, well, it’s something different. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
George ah Okay. Okay.
Jon So I’m going to talk to you about a podcast, and it’s George’s favorite kind of podcast, audio fiction.
George Oh.
Jon So some years ago when, yeah, right.
George Okay. I might actually listen to that podcast.
Mo Yeah, really.
Jon Really? Maybe. I know, I know Mo will enjoy it, but it’s the kind of out podcast you might actually hear, which is why I call you out. So some years ago, back when, I want to say it was back when Paramount plus was still CBS all access and they were still spooling up a series and discovery was just in the second season.
Jon They said, we have all these plans in the making. One of those plans was to make mini series about, Khan from the wrath of Khan.
George Right. Yeah.
Jon They’re going to make this mini series. It was going to be like five or six episodes and it was going to span and cover everything that happened between when Kirk and the enterprise dropped off Khan and his people in space seed connecting all the way up to when they show up in the wrath of Khan.
Mo Oh, oh.
Jon So there’s a gap of time there that we haven’t seen.
George Really?
George Right.
Jon We know they were dropped off. And by the way, if you’re listening to the show and you’re not a Star Trek nerd, I’m sorry. I’m gonna get super Star Trek nerdy here in this little bit.
Mo Go for it.
Jon ah So in case you don’t, very briefly, the 30 second overview. Khan Noonien Singh was a genetically modified Superman from Earth who his people almost overthrew Earth and they banished them.
Jon And later on the Enterprise, Kirk found them in cryosleep on the ship called the Botany Bay. They tried to take over the Enterprise.
Mo hmm.
Jon Kirk finally said, no, you’re not doing that. They just quelched the overthrow, but said what we’re going to going put you down on this decent planet. It won’t be a paradise, but it will be, it’s M-class, it’s breathable, you can farm, you can have your own planet and leave us alone.
Jon And that was great until the Wrath of Khan when they find out that All hell broke loose and a planet exploded and they’re living on a hellscape. But in the interim, we don’t know what happened in those years. Now, that series never came about, but they didn’t let it die. And so what it has become is a limited audio fiction podcast called Star Trek Con.
George ah Okay.
Jon And they’re now telling that story, but in the form of audio fiction.
Mo Okay. Hmm.
Jon Yeah, it just started. There’s one episode out as I record this. I think it’s coming out on Monday. So as as you hear this, there should be two episodes out. And the way they’re structuring it is really cool. There’s two timeframes.
Jon There is about, oh, a couple about two or two or three years after Generations, so after Kirk’s death in Generations. And there’s this historian who wants to charter a Starfleet vessel to take her to City Alpha 5 to look for these leftover documentary tapes that were recorded there by Marla MacGyvers, who stayed with Khan and his people.
Mo Right.
George Oh, wow.
Jon She was an Enterprise crew member.
George Yeah.
Jon And so, well, who runs the Enterprise? Sulu. Who is an instant on board Enterprise? Tuvok. And so those two characters come back as their roles in this audio fiction because the Excelsior is the ship that takes them there.
Jon And those are like bookends. And then the middle of the show is history of Khan Noonien Singh and his people as they just got dropped off. or we’re going to follow them ah throughout the course of this missing time.
George right. I got a ton of questions. I’m going to start off with the first one because I think you might’ve said something that sounded odd to people, but you said who runs enterprise.
Jon I love it.
Jon Okay. All right. Right.
George And then you said Sulu, but Excelsior there, because Excelsior, ah i was like, what?
Jon Oh, sorry. Yes. Who runs the Excelsior? My my mistake. Right.
Mo Yeah, okay.
Jon Captain the Excelsior.
Mo I was confused. I’m like, Sulu runs in? I didn’t want to contradict them on air.
Jon but Right.
Mo Oh, yeah, absolutely.
George I don’t remember Sulu ever captaining the enterprise, but anyway, the, this one is ah question slash fear, I guess that I have,
Jon Right. No, no, no. Right. sure It’s Excelsior. Right. Right. Yeah.
Jon Okay. Yeah.
George ah If you’re doing an audio podcast, you got to have great voice acting. I think we all agree with that, right?
Jon Yep.
George Because that’s, you have to have somebody who’s evocative that can bring images to your mind when they’re doing the roles.
Jon Yeah.
George If this is about Khan, we don’t have the man who could do that voice anymore.
Jon Sure.
Mo Ricardo Montalban, yeah.
George He’s been dead for a lot of years.
Jon Ricardo Montalban. Yeah.
George What can we do? You can’t title a thing called Khan and not give me his voice if the whole thing is only voice acting.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Yeah, I hear you. Yeah.
George Are they doing an AI Ricardo Montalban or
Jon So. No, no, no, no. So um it took me the better part of the first episode, which I’ve now listened to three times because it’s really cool. Let’s do it in the car. um In the way that Ethan Peck is channeling Spock, but not doing a Leonard Nimoy impression.
Jon the actor, the voice actor they have doing con is channeling the power and the charisma of Ricardo Montalban, but not doing a Montalban impression. So it’s not a someone trying to sound like ri record Ricardo Montalban.
Jon And that is for me. And I like, you probably will too. It was a little bit of cognitive dissonance because when I first heard the voice, I’m like, This doesn’t jump out at me and smack me in the face and say, this is Khan because it’s not quite there, but he grows into the character over the course of the first episode. And I’m, I’m on board enough to stay with it. It’s, it’s not Ricardo Montalban. It’s not going to be.
Mo Yeah.
Jon So you kind of have to, ah you’re not going to find that again, you know, that he was a singular talent.
George Yeah, it’s
Mo That’s true.
George It’s kind of like if you were trying to replace Darth Vader’s voice with somebody other than James Earl Jones, right?
Jon Sure.
Mo Yeah, it doesn’t work.
Jon Yeah. but Anybody that does it, they do an impression because you can’t change that any longer.
George Right.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. So I think it’s going run through, think they said through November. So it’s, what is it going to be? Six, eight, 10, 12 episodes, something like that. It’s going to run about 45 minutes long or so.
Jon And you’re getting like this snapshot of kind of, and I did say enterprise. You’re getting a snapshot of Sulu’s Excelsior with Tuvok on board because we knew that was a history there. Not only that though.
George which Takai is always pushing.
Jon Yeah, of course. Yeah. I’m sure he was eager to come back and do that. But then, and interestingly, if you follow the Star Trek mythology, in this first episode, everything’s going great.
Mo Right, of course.
Jon He’s like, yeah, we we would have preferred to have a starship at our disposal, but still, Kirk did us a huge favor. This is what we wanted. We wanted our own planet, our own paradise to set up our own empire.
Jon You know, you guys, we’re going to farm here. We’re going to build a coliseum there. We’re going to do this and… He doesn’t yet know that shit’s going down and going to destroy their lives.
George Right.
Mo Right, of course.
Jon Right. He’s so, so far he’s kind of, yeah, everything’s going to be fine so far.
George Because it’s six months.
Jon Yeah. Really intriguing. And it’s neat to explore. and it’s canonical. This is, this is canon. This is happening.
George Right.
Jon In fact, initially Nicholas Meyer was involved in this. Now he’s not any longer, but he was at first in the initial planning stages back when it was a series.
George Oh, yeah.
Mo um The only question I have, was this based on, did they do any like treatments or script overreviews like a long time ago about what they wanted to do here that they’re using or this like something they’re just kind of coming up with today?
Jon No, this this was what the miniseries was going to be. This is the story they were going to tell.
George you
Jon They may have framed it differently, you know having the bookend of the Excelsior and stuff, possibly they wouldn’t have done before, maybe.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Mo Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah.
Jon But the story of what happens to Khan, was the was as I understand it, is the story that they had laid out when Meyer was involved.
Mo Okay.
Jon ah to get to this point. So it’s really, it’s cool to explore. You know it reminds me of like Star Wars Solo or one of those things where it’s a little niche, a little corner of a mythology that doesn’t doesn’t necessarily matter, but it’s more interesting to find out what happened there. Like we know what happened, but how did it happen? It’s neat to see the story unfold. I’m really enjoying it.
Mo All right, cool.
George But Mo, if you were asking the question if they wrote this kind of stuff back in the 80s or 90s, no.
Jon No, no, this was written back in 2017 or 18 is when they were writing this treatment.
George Nothing canon was ever written back then.
Mo No, I see. OK, OK, got it.
Jon Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon That was what you’re asking, George is right. It wasn’t from way back when, it was from yeah fairly modern, in the last 10, 15 years.
Mo Fairly recent.
Jon Yeah, okay.
Mo OK, cool.
Jon Anyway, you can find it anywhere you listen to podcasts like this great podcast or on the same same app. Just search for Star Trek Con. It’s published by Star Trek. It’s canonical and it’ll fill in the gap between a pretty good…
Jon Star Trek episode and a damn good Star Trek movie that you probably already know the story to. All right.
Mo Awesome.
Jon Yes.
Mo So you guys can kid me because, you know, I’m a grandfather. i know you guys can give me crap about that, but there it is.
Jon Grandpa Moe.
Mo um So my grandson, he turned 12 asked him what he went for his birthday. And he’s yeah, i know.
Jon Wow!
Mo Tell me about it. um He says he wants ah he wanted a drone. And George, you’ll appreciate this.
George Oh, Lord.
Mo You were way into the drone thing.
George Yeah.
Mo so
Jon Drone cake.
Mo So. So I started digging through. you know, the price range of these things is just crazy. Like the, just the, just the range these days, but I found one for about a hundred bucks.
George Sure.
Mo um That wasn’t that I looked and we got it.
Jon Fair.
Mo And of course it came in early. So I had to test it to make sure it worked. Of course, you know, because you know, you don’t want to give this broken.
George Well, yeah.
Jon What a good grandpa.
Mo Yeah. what the I had to charge the batteries, you know, make sure it all works.
Jon Pre-playing with the toys. Mm-hmm.
Mo um And I was just totally impressed. It was amazing. Sorry. Something caught my throat. um It’s, I’m not sure who makes I think it’s called a Pledgeable, I think is the name of the company or something like that.
Mo But anyway, it’s a small foldable drone that it was, I was shocked at how many features these things have these days for hundred bucks, which I know George, when we first started this channel, you were really seriously into drones and a drone of this capability probably been a hell a lot more money.
George i
George Sure.
Mo You know, it was,
George I mean, a drone with any features back then would have been, you know, 300 bucks minimum.
Mo Yeah, easily. um But this one was it a little foldable. So the whole thing maybe is like eight inches. The body’s like maybe only like eight inches long. You know it folds out the the four propellers.
Jon and Okay.
Mo It has these just amazing features on it. Like it has a ah HD camera. You know, it hooks up to your phone and it has like a control stick that your phone like parks into.
Jon Yeah.
Mo So your phone is your monitor for seeing what the camera sees.
George Mm-hmm. Yep.
Mo And then you control it with joysticks.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo But just the basic stuff like, you know, you hit a button and it takes off and just hovers. you know, for you, you know, you hit another button and it lands, right?
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Okay.
Mo No matter if it’s doing something crazy, you say lands and it just lands, you know?
George Launch mode, land mode. Yep.
Jon Yeah.
Mo um It was like, I was messing with it inside the house and it was just, I felt comfortable moving it around and not like thinking was going to go like cleaning into the dogs or something like that, you know, crashing to the windows or anything because they’ve just, because I remember playing with them ah years ago and it took a lot of skill to manage a drone.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Like it just seemed like it did. Like it just, it just took a lot. And it seemed like these new ones, they just have all these things that make it so much easier now. to control them than they used to be. though They’re a lot more stable, it seems.
Mo um you
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo It seems like you do pan left, pan left. It just sort turns where I remember playing with them before. It’s like you couldn’t just turn a drone. You had to turn to one joystick while the other one, you’re kind of feathering to keep it level and things like that, which I think they now just sort of just built into it.
Mo um It actually came with two batteries rather than one, which I thought was cool, you know so that both of them charge USB-C you know naturally. ah The only thing that took a couple of double A’s was the actual joystick controller part.
Mo It came with you had app you had to download that connected to it. i mean, I said I was just really, really surprised at how sophisticated they’ve gotten for the price point.
Jon Yeah. I remember the first one that I ever got for Christmas, i don’t know, many, many years ago now.
Jon the first thing I did was walk out in the park and fly it up in the air and it got out of range and it went miles away and crashed in a tree. like that was
George Right.
Mo ah Right.
George Yeah.
Jon and then And then I had to spend three days trying to find it and get it down with a stick because…
George yeah
Mo Right.
Jon Now, the good news is I had all that cool footage I could post on YouTube of a drone getting lost and crashing in a tree. But in the end, I pretty much… it was unusable because it got got in the wind and it couldn’t stabilize because it was it was probably a $100 drone.
Mo Right.
Jon But eight years ago, like you’re getting $100 drone today. They have the benefit of all these people like DJI and everybody doing all this science of how to how to calculate stability and wind and all those things that I remember that was for a long time.
Mo right
Jon I thought I really wanted a drone. and I wanted a good DJI one. I’m like, yeah, that’s a grand at minimum to get a good one and just have any of those features.
Mo yeah Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there’s. Yeah. And there’s still quite a few out there that are like in the hundreds, but they’re much, much bigger.
Jon Are there?
Mo um And they seem like they do a lot more, like a ton more range like this range on this one isn’t amazing, but it’s good for him, you know, for a kid to play around in his yard.
Jon Yeah. Sure.
George I think for me, just still kind of not as closely as I used to, but still following drone development over time and whatnot, because, you know, they had the Drone Racing League, which I was really into as long as it was televised.
Mo Mm hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And they took that off the air and then they started trying to air it on Twitter and different places and stuff. It was just stupid.
Jon Hmm.
George But… I liken the original days as when cars still had standard steering. And what you’re getting now is a car for the same price, but with power steering and cruise control
Mo Yeah, exactly.
George and
Mo Yeah.
Jon Automatic transmission.
George ah Yeah, like lane avoidance stuff and all that kind of…
Jon yeah,
Jon oh yeah right. Yeah.
Mo Mm hmm.
George right it’s They’re able to build it in.
Jon Good parallel.
George The difference is in the drone realm versus the autout manufacturers realm, automakers just keep jacking the fucking prices up and the drone people are trying to keep them low enough because they know…
George While a car is something everybody needs in America because of the way our road systems and cities are laid out and everything else, a drone is not anything that anybody needs, so they have to keep the price down at a point where grandfathers will be able to afford them for their grandsons.
Mo Yeah.
Jon All right.
Mo And like I said, it’s so easy, even I could fly it.
Jon Scene here.
Mo You know, that’s the kind of thing.
George Ha ha ha ha.
Jon but Even an old guy like Mo can figure it out.
Mo Exactly. So I’ll throw a link to this in the show notes so you guys can check it out if you’re interested.
George Ha ha ha ha.
Jon Yeah, I will.
Mo But as said, it was for the price and what you got. I was like, wow, you know, and my wife’s already like wants him to do a flyby of her yard that she’s been working on so she could get like video of the yard and all that stuff.
Jon Sure.
Mo So he’s been practicing. So he’s gonna have a lot of fun with it. So as I said, it’s a great deal. I thought for 100 bucks. So so George, I’m not sure what this is that you have for us.
Jon Yeah, sounds like it.
Mo What is this?
George Well, apparently then I suppose you might have been living under a rock to not know that Samsung came out with a new line of phones a couple of months ago, and one of them is their new Fold phone, the Z Fold 7.
Mo Yeah.
George Yeah.
Mo Oh, Samsung. That’s why don’t know.
Jon okay oh Oh, because he because he’s an apple dork.
George Are you still…
Jon That was a really subtle dig at us, is what that was.
Mo yeah yeah
George So he’s living under and a branded rock that costs him twice as much as everybody else’s rock, apparently.
Mo I am an Apple dork.
Mo Yes.
Jon But it’s a very shiny rock he’s under. It’s a very chrome-plated…
Mo yes
George Yes, it’s it’s high polished.
Jon That’s right.
George So yeah, I… So recently, ah my two oldest sons, they were… i don’t want to say they were in need, because in need…
Mo Yeah. Mm-hmm.
George indicates that your phone is not a phone anymore and their phones were still phones, but yes, their screens had cracked. They had original Z fold twos. I think it was.
George So they had, um, you know, several, several years ago, five years or so, I think, um,
Jon Okay.
George their Their phones had problems. Of course, those original ah folding phones, they had a lot of little idiosyncrasies. Dust could get in the hinges of the fold.
Jon yeah
George ah The screens on the inside were very delicate. They could be scratched or dented really easily. um So they came to me and they said, Dad, we want new phones. I said, great, go buy some.
Jon I’ll point you toward the store.
George And they said, they said ah well, we don’t have money.
Mo It’s like, that’s nice.
George I said, I know you don’t have money because I see your bank account all the time. So I told him, I said, well, here’s the deal. I’m not going to be saddled with another period of time that I have to stick with a carrier that because I’m paying off your phone’s loan, even though they’re giving me the money for it, I still have to stay with them because you know how these phone loans work these days.
Jon Yeah.
George They give you these great discounts, right?
Mo Oh, yeah.
George It’s a $2,000 phone, but we’ll sell it to you for only this much per month and it’s 0% interest and you’re only paying half of it. So it’s like $20 on your bill extra.
George That’s awesome. Great. But if you ever decide to leave them, well, now the thousand dollars you paid for the phone gets blown away and you have to pay the full $2,000 price just to get the fuck out of their service.
Mo yep
George And I hate that.
Jon Yeah.
George I hate that like lockdown purgatory that I’m in with a, with a, um, a carrier, especially because the carrier that I was on at that moment was T-Mobile.
Mo yeah
Jon Hmm. Double reason.
George T-Mobile doesn’t have great coverage in the area that I’m in and the places that we tend to go on vacations, there have been multiple times where either on the drive or at the location, T-Mobile service has sucked.
Jon Hmm.
George Now, that has been that way for three and a half years that we’ve been with T-Mobile. we went to T-Mobile because the prices were half of what Verizon was. What I was hoping was that their service wasn’t half of what Verizon was.
George It turned out that’s pretty close to what it really was.
Mo wow
Jon Wow.
George Well, we talked about it. We came to some arrangements. The boys were going to split off and get their own plan because they had found some deals that they liked and everything. And they were thinking about going to Verizon.
George And I’m like, well, I think I might still have my wife’s iPhone to be paying off on T-Mobile so we can’t really leave. And then I went and looked. Well, it turned out we had paid off all our phones.
Mo OK.
Jon Oh, good. Mm-hmm.
George just T-Mobile had found some way to an artificially increase our bill. So I didn’t notice that because it was the same damn rate.
Mo Oh, my God.
Jon oh No.
George So yeah, it’s just the way they do that shit. Um, so I said, well, you know what? I’ve been wanting to go back to Verizon. You guys are wanting to go to Verizon. I’ll go with you.
George We’ll talk to the people there. I’ll ask them important questions that you might not think to ask them. And then we can make a decision there or whatever. Um,
Mo right
George Long story short, too late, I already ah ended up moving the whole family over to Verizon. When I did that, I decided to get a new phone.
George And because i was very interested in the folding phones for work purposes, because when they unfold, their monitors, the screen on them is very close to some big monitors.
Mo It’s good size, yeah.
Jon Little tablet, yeah.
George You pair those with a foldable keyboard and flattened mouse, and you’ve got your computer in your pocket whenever you go for travel somewhere.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And I’m like, okay, well, that That’s appealing to me. Not to mention, this Z Fold 7 is the very first to have the IP6 rating. Now, 6 and 8 are the two top numbers. 6 for dust, 8 for water.
George The Z Fold 7 is the first foldable and the only foldable on the market right now, um along with the Flip, which is also a foldable. They’re the only ones to have the 6 rating, which means no dust can get into them.
Jon Okay.
George The way you get that rating, they put your phone in a chamber and blast talcum powder at it for eight hours straight.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Hmm.
George Then they disassemble it. If there’s no talcum powder in it, you get a six. Otherwise you get a lower score. Every other foldable has been a five or lower for years. This first one was six. So I was like, okay, good durability there for that.
Jon Hmm.
George um I’ve been using this phone now for about three weeks with no um cover, no case, just the phone, the way it came out of the box.
Jon Hmm.
George Guys, it’s really snappy. I don’t know if it’s $2,000 worth of snappy,
Jon That’s the trick. Yeah.
Mo Yeah.
George but it’s really snappy. um I’m very happy with it. All of the bells and whistles that people might have been wondering about when it comes to foldables are here.
George Samsung has ah great UI for this phone, although I do use Nova as a launcher, which John introduced me to a number of years ago.
Jon Yeah. Great long. Sure.
George I did just find out that that guy has totally discontinued the Nova launcher service. There will be no new Nova stuff going on.
Jon Oh, really? Okay.
George Yeah, he was the last guy working on it He said, I just don’t have time.
Jon Yeah.
George So,
Jon Okay.
Mo But um so you mentioned the dust. What about water?
George uh, it’s got an eight rating on the water.
Mo Oh, hey, that’s really high.
George So it’s the highest water rating, highest dust rating.
Mo Wow.
George Yeah.
Jon Wow.
George 68 is the, why they didn’t do 69. I mean, come on, that’s just a given you guys should have used that, but whatever.
Jon Hey! ah
George There’s going to be so many great jokes with that, but it’s a tremendous phone. I am still getting used to how it operates between regular folded mode and unfolded mode, because there’s a whole bunch of things to think about that you don’t think about with a slab phone. Like,
George If I’m using and app on the the back screen while it’s folded and then I unfold it, do I want that app to come up and readjust its size or do I want to just go to my desktop?
George There are settings that allow you to change the behavior of just folding and unfolding the phone.
Jon Wow, that’s lot I never even thought about in that realm. But the thing that always wonders when I look at one of these folding phones, and someone asks you, now you use it for three weeks, you’re another good candidate. so why Everyone I see with a folding phone, i ask them this.
Jon Do you still see, is it bothering you, the crease? Because when I demo one, I’m like, damn, this crease would get on my nerves. But what’s your experience with having that something in the middle of the screen that’s not perfectly smooth?
George I only notice the crease when I run my finger across it. I do not see it.
Jon Really? Your brain kind of tunes it out, I guess, maybe.
George Yeah, it is virtually… No, no, it’s not that. It’s just gone. They have the hinge in this foldable. I’m going hold this up to the camera.
Jon oh okay. Okay.
George You guys won’t be able to see it on camera. This is how thin this phone is in folded state now.
Jon Yeah.
George It is no thicker than a slab phone anymore.
Jon Yeah.
Mo wow
Jon Yep. It’s
George And that hinge is so small that there is no crease on the inside as far as visually you can tell.
Mo That’s impressive.
George When you’ve unfolded this thing completely flat, here, we got this camera system here.
Jon crazy.
George I’ll just go ahead and open this up show you guys. well Hit one of the buttons there.
Mo This size, I think. Holy crap.
Jon Yep. yeah
George Yeah. I mean, I don’t know that you would be able to see the crease anyway, but on an old Fold 1 or Fold 2, you would have been able to see the crease here.
Jon It’s like two-thirds of a tablet, kind of. Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Right.
Jon Sure. Huh.
George Yeah.
Jon Neat. Okay.
George it’s It’s really set.
Jon Yeah.
George Like, if I look at it at an 80-degree side angle, then I can see the crease.
Mo Okay, but yeah, how often you can do that, right?
George But I’m not operating the phone that way, so…
Jon Okay. But it’s not bothering you, which is kind of what I was saying. it’s You don’t notice it.
George No.
Jon It’s not worth even talking about.
George No, the only thing that’s bothering me really is the price and our particular experience with coming on board the service because the not just the day, but to the minute that they were transferring our phone numbers from T-Mobile to Verizon, Verizon had a major outage.
Jon Yeah, because it was my biggest problem.
George So we were stuck without phones for like two or three days because T-Mobile had cut them off and Verizon couldn’t bring them in.
Jon Oh, no.
Mo Oh, man.
Jon couldn’t bring them online. Oh, no.
George Yeah.
Jon You just fell in the valley accidentally there. Oh, well.
George We did.
Mo Okay.
Jon Yeah.
George so And there’s still some issues that they’re trying to work out with our account.
Jon Yeah.
George Like right now, I can only see two of my five phone numbers in there. The bill looks weird. So I’m trying to get all that stuff fixed. To say that the carrier side of things is what we all hate about major carriers in the U.S. is probably still the same.
Jon Sure.
George I feel like the coverage is better with Verizon.
Mo okay
George customer service has definitely gone downhill compared to what it was eight, 10 years ago. Verizon used to really promote how customer service friendly they were.
Mo Yeah, that’s yeah.
George They’re not that anymore. um But yeah, $2,000. It’s, I bought a new PC is what I did.
Mo Yeah, yeah, really.
Jon Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, when that one wears out, maybe I’ll buy yours for a reduced price. So…
George ah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, um I’m willing to go to 1950, you know, right. you know
Jon That’s very, very generous. Thank you.
George right
George All right, everybody. Time to jump into the game segment. John, I’m going put you up first. and
Jon Great.
George this is a game that we have been talking about for a long time in one way or another over on the YouTube channel that has been put out by Atari.
Jon Yeah.
Jon That’s right. Yeah. So this is a game called Adventure of Samsara. ah When they first announced it, boy, it had to be probably four or five months ago when they first announced it. And I did a news reaction kind of editorial back then because it initially was called something else and Atari bought it.
Jon and Some other developer was making it. Atari purchased it to get it finished and release it. And then at that point, they renamed it to Adventure of Samsara and then connected it somehow to the original Atari adventure game written by Warren Robinette.
Jon So it was at that time that I was like, well, it’s a Metroidvania game. It’s kind of pixely, all things that I like. I was very concerned that they attached the adventure name to it just to promote it and that it really had nothing necessarily to do with adventure.
Jon um That was my main concern. ah But now it’s out. So we, ah Atari was kind enough to send us some keys. We’ve done a live stream at this point. And I have spent probably 20, 25 hours now on Adventure of Samsara.
Mo wow
Jon And so first and foremost, it is a really good Metroidvania.
Mo okay
Jon You are a little, almost like a little Knights Templar looking guy. Like you have like the robe, like you’re in King Arthur’s court or some kind of a super armor. And you’re navigating this big open world like any Metroidvania with a giant map and there are areas you can’t get to until you can upgrade your gauntlet.
Jon They have more spells and more, you know, it’s a Metroidvania. If you played Hollow Knight, if you played Shadow Labyrinth or something, it’s the same idea.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon ah The mechanism of the game is really good. The combat is really forgiving. I felt once you get used to the controls, multiple weapons or something I wasn’t expecting in a Metroidvania. Usually you have your little, your whatever your attack is and you can upgrade its power.
Jon But now I have a bow that I can use to fire and do things. And apparently I’m going get a hammer later. And the game is really good. I’ve been and I’m going to keep playing. and I see myself staying with this to the end.
Jon I also want to circle back and talk about that adventure connection, though. So they did do some work to retroactively add in layers of adventure into this.
Mo Thank you.
Jon Still, it feels admittedly added on. There is a there’s this guy with a jet pack that kind of floats around. You meet him once in a while. And I’m, I’m getting the idea that he is your character from adventure.
Jon He’s I’ve been transported from this much simpler world. And, What I had had to deal with was like what you had to deal with, but different. and So to kind of make this parallel in adventure, you ran around a kingdom defeating enemies and looking for treasure.
Jon And that’s what you’re doing here. Well, I would argue that’s what you’re doing in every game, running around, exploring the map, killing bad guys, looking for treasure.
Mo Yeah, pretty much. Okay.
Jon So it’s not really a one-to-one connection. They did add a bat that will steal things. So that is a connection they added.
Mo okay
Jon Apparently there are some dragons somewhere. I ran into one once and he killed me and then he ran away. So I don’t know, but that’s not really of everything I’ve seen so far. This game could stand on its own.
Jon It is a great game. adding adventure to it as a marketing ploy and layering on some things. There’s nothing in the connection to adventure in it that you need to make this game good.
Jon All of those things feel like an extra layer they added.
Mo Thank you.
Jon Not to say that’s bad, but my initial concern is still there that if you use your currency for adventure now, are you going to make a real true successor to adventure later? and don’t know if they’re going to get back to that, but there’s nothing wrong with this game.
Jon I think it’s a tremendous game and probably not enough people They probably thought not enough people would play it if it didn’t have an IP attached. And I’m not sure that has fixed their problem. I don’t see a lot of people playing it or talking about it.
Jon And really they should, because as a Metroidvania game, I know that the Silk Song just came out, the Hollow Knight 2 or whatever that was came out recently, dropped on the same day, weirdly, oddly.
Mo Yeah.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon So it probably got overshadowed in that. This is a much more ah economically priced and quality Metroidvania game, whether or not it’s connected to adventure. And I’ve been having a hell of a good time playing it. So if you overlooked it, I think you should take a look. I’m probably gonna do more live streams on it too.
Jon And plus, Mo, I’ll give you the link and down in the show notes, if you want, you can go back and and look at the live stream that I already did where we explored it. I’ve gotten a lot further since then, but that’s why another one is likely coming.
Mo Cool.
Jon All right, that’s Adventure of Samsara. Mo, what have you been playing?
Mo So um I’ve been eyeing this game ah Dead Island 2. It actually came out oh over a year, about a year and a half ago.
Jon Zombie thing.
Mo But, you know, I was not going to pay, you know, $60. So I’ve been waiting for the price to come down. ah
Jon Okay.
Mo So they finally had one of the summer sales or winter sales or fall sale, whatever it is, sale they have out there. And so it was $20. said, OK, I’ll give try for $20.
Jon Okay.
Mo you um And I’ve been playing it, and it’s a fun game, but you know there’s certain things about it that honestly just bug me and maybe don’t bug other people.
Jon Okay.
Mo you know Maybe it’s just a me thing. But like for instance, if you clear an area, it doesn’t stay cleared. you know like If you go – there’s houses – you’re in Los Angeles, and the same kind of premise that – yeah zombie apocalypse, but for some reason you’re immune from the thing, right?
Mo um And you’re going through a house and you’ll kill all the zombies in a house.
Jon You’re immune. Okay.
Mo You’ll leave the house for a while, come back and zombies are back. Like all of them were right back where they were, you know?
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And for me, it’s like having that feel of like, okay, I’m done with a part so I can move on to the next part is good. Cause you do wind up having to backtrack a lot in this game. And every time you backtrack, you’re fighting the same things over again.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah.
Mo You know, which to me just.
Jon So that respawning of enemies, it feels artificial, doesn’t it?
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah, exactly. It just seems like there’s just sort of like random at that point. Not really. don’t know. It’s just that kind of feature kind of bugs me a little bit. um
Jon Hmm.
Mo There is, a you know, it’s it’s a lot of tongue in cheek humor. you know, I mean, you’re like you’re in Hollywood, you know, where like you have all these like pampered movie stars and stuff that you wind up seeing and saving some so saving others.
George Thank you.
Mo And, you know it it’ ah you know, that aspect of it is pretty fun.
Jon Hmm. Hmm.
Mo they They kept that aspect of it. But I’m finding it hard to go back and play things again just because I know I’m going to have to redo lot work.
Jon It was like this trudge. Like, I finished this.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Can you keep that clear for me?
Mo Yeah, why do i have to…
Jon Yeah.
Mo When I go through that house again, why do I have to go through and clear everything out again? you know, granted, it’s a little easier at that point because your character has advanced since, you know, you have better weapons, et cetera, et cetera. But still, though, i’m like, you know, I like the idea of, like, if I clear a house, it’s done.
Mo And I can move on, you know?
Jon Yeah.
George I think you probably are stuck in your crime scene cleaner mode.
Mo Maybe.
George That may be why that feels unfun to you.
Mo You
Mo you know, it’s like, there’s it’s not done. you know, I’m not finished. You know.
Jon Yeah. Well, you know, in Samsara that I just talked about, you have a similar thing where come back to the same area of a dungeon and the monsters have respawned. But there’s a reason for that in this, in my game, because you need to keep attacking monsters to rebuild your energy meter.
Mo Oh, okay. So there’s a purpose behind it.
Jon and And to collect coins. So you kind of go back and farm them. Like you go back through an area and defeat a bunch of enemies to get the coins and the energy back.
Mo Oh, sure.
Jon But if if there’s not a benefit to killing those monsters other than just artificially having them there, that kind of creates ah an obstacle you shouldn’t have to climb again in a game like you’re playing.
Mo Right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Jon Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mo You know, but besides that, again, you know, if you’re looking for, you know, a thousand fun ways to kill a zombies, if you like over the top gore. So, the I mean, the game has all that in it and it’s like the tongue in cheek humor and all that stuff.
Mo But again, it’s just that kind of drudge factors just kind of makes you not want to keep coming back to it. So.
Jon Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Mo You know, don’t know. Like said, maybe it’s just me things. I know it’s still a really popular game, so it could just be me.
Jon Nothing wrong with that.
Mo Other people love that stuff. So that’s what I got. How about you, George? we got for us today?
George Well, so it’s not about a game that I’ve been playing lately because I’m still fucking stuck in that stupid crime scene or game crime scene cleaner, whatever the hell it is. um But I just wanted to ask a question of you two, and then maybe our podcast listeners could write in and give some advice as well after the episode releases.
George Recently, i ah i got sucked in and I bought that Pac-Man double feature cartridge that was for sale only at ah the convention, um that one, ah comic Comic-Con, I think it was where San Diego Comic-Con was where they had released it.
Jon Yeah.
George $100 got shipped to my house because I guess… Not everybody bought them at the convention. They didn’t sell it there, so they had enough left over. bought it before it sold out, just because I had FOMO.
George And it’s still sitting right here above my shoulders, ah on top of the comic book boxes, sealed.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Mmm.
Jon yeah
George I have not broken the plastic. It’s still inside its case. And I wanted to ask you guys, what do you feel ah about breaking the seal on a thing that is…
George sold in limited quantities like this was i think there were only a hundred of them uh obviously designed to be a collectible for resale you know at some later date probably after i’m dead at this point because i can’t imagine in the next like five years because that’s about as long as i’m gonna last that it’ll gain any real value i know so you know i’m a little i might have made a poor investment here um
Jon Right. Right.
Jon Well, your sons are going to need a new phone in five more years, so you can sell it then.
Mo Yeah. don’t know.
Jon Right.
George But should I open this thing? There’s other stuff besides the cartridge in it. And what’s on the cartridge, I think, is every is stuff that I could play anyway. It’s the 2600 Pac-Man game, I think.
Mo ah
George I don’t think there’s anything new on it that nobody has. And then there’s, I think, like some patches and stickers and a pen or something like that maybe in there. I just don’t know what to do at this point.
Jon I have thoughts.
George Yeah, right.
Jon ah Just ship it to me and you don’t have to worry about it any longer.
George yeah right
Jon No. So right really that particular cartridge, that gold box cartridge, the one that you got, that collector’s one, that is one that because it’s coming out in that edition and a non collector’s edition,
Jon I would keep that one sealed if it were me. Now it may have some special patches and pins, but it does have a game you can’t play right now. So the new 7800 version of Pac-Man is a brand new port written by Bob DeCresenzo, who we’ve, so it doesn’t scroll.
George Oh, okay. okay
Jon It’s all on the screen at one time. The 7800 version scrolled. I’m sorry. It never came to the 7800. Correction. Never came to it. This is the first time it’s been ported to the 7800.
Mo okay
Jon But other versions like that would sometimes scroll around. Like there are homebrew versions that didn’t have the whole map on the screen. Anyway, minutiae, but it it is a unique version that was brand new for this.
Jon But that’s going to be a regularly released cartridge that you can get in the non-special edition for 20 or 30 bucks. If you pick up the Pac-Man 2600 plus, it’s going to come with it.
Mo Thank
Jon It’s going to be the baked in game that’s going to be included in that console if you’re considering getting that. The fact that there was a special edition and non, for example, I got the special edition of Mr. Run and Jump, that 2600 game from a few years ago.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon I didn’t open that one because I had the non-special edition. yeah things that old games are old things that I find sealed. I’m I’m a proponent for cut it open and play with the toy, cut it open and play with the toy.
Jon You didn’t buy it as an investment. You bought it because you wanted to to love it. If you love it in a box, that’s fine. But if you have a choice to love it in the box and also get a version I can open and play with and have the same joy,
Jon I would protect that one and get the normal version since you have that. And it’s not a universal answer, but for this particular case, that would be, if it were me, that’s what I would do. Mo, what about you?
Mo Yeah, I mean, I agree with you like on that principle and all what you said, you know, but then like, why have it? You know, like, you know what mean? Like you said, it has things in it that they, I assume they put in there because they figure people would want to have the stickers and use the stickers.
Mo So like I guess I’ve always had like ah
Jon Yeah.
Mo a weird feeling about like, you know, I’m buying something that’s really special, but I can’t touch it.
Jon I get that.
Mo You know mean? i mean, i don’t know, but I think for this case, so ah George, I think I i completely agree him.
Jon Yeah.
Mo It doesn’t look anything that special in it that you can’t get someplace else, right? Get through a regular version or something like that.
George Well, except for like the pins or patches and things, which I do like those things.
Mo Yeah, that’s true.
Jon Right. The, the, the, the, the feelies, the touchies.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
George But, um, and so John, you said something about that 7800 port being on the 2600 plus. I have a 2600 plus. So already have that game.
Jon Yes. the yeah The new Pac-Man edition of the 2600+, the yellow one that has Pac-Man stuff, that’s going to be the pack-in game for that version of the console, and plus the cartridge will be available in a standard edition at the same time that launches, which is in a month.
George Oh,
George gotcha.
George So I could buy that cartridge.
Jon Yeah, next month it’s going to be available to purchase as is.
George Okay.
Jon Yeah, that’s the difference.
George And I know I’ve already got the original Pac-Man 2600 version in like multiple cartridges.
Jon ah You’ve got that a million times over.
Mo Yeah, you might have 50 copies of that.
Jon Yeah, that one.
George So, um, yeah, it’s, it’s just tough, right?
Jon Yeah.
George Because part of me owning something is wanting to open it and feel and play with it.
Mo hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Enjoy it.
Jon Yep.
Mo Yeah.
Jon yep
George But, I mean, I don’t know that I’ll ever sell it. Does that factor into the decision or not? I mean, like it’s sitting on top of a stack of graded Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles signed comic books that I sent off a couple of years ago because one of the creators of that series was doing an autograph signing through the grading company.
Mo You
George And so I sent those off and got them back. And there’s, I’m not breaking the seal on those to go read those comics at all or to physically touch them or handle them, but they’re in this beautiful display where I can see them.
George Now that’s one thing. I would love it if these kinds of packages had some kind of transparency so you could see the things inside.
Mo can see it. Oh, yeah.
George Like when you buy a figure in sometimes, right, even a really nice collector’s figure, you open up a leaf or a panel or something, and there you see the figure with all their accessories and these nice molded plastic pieces.
Jon Right.
George Yeah. I would love it if they would do something like that with these. Because then i could at least see the patch. I could at least see the pen.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George I could at least see the sticker or the card. You know, I could…
Mo ah
George But I can’t see anything except for this very gold box. Like, the lettering on it is gold. The box is gold. So… boy, it’s just, it’s tough. I haven’t opened it yet. I’ve had it for about a month, I think, or something like that.
George Uh, the box did come moderately damaged. It was crushed a little bit, so it’s not in perfect condition.
Jon Oh, no. Oh, no.
George It’s not Jim meant, but it is a hundred percent sealed. This is the way I got it.
Jon Right.
George So I don’t know.
Jon you know, you know, and to, and to most question and and and back to yours too, you know, said, you know, am I ever going to sell it? Am I ever going to, you know, what’s the point of owning it kind of thing? I enjoy the conversation, but I think the ultimate advice comes down to if having it sealed and in your collection brings you joy, you should keep it sealed.
Mo Yeah.
Jon If keeping it sealed in your collection does not bring you any joy, then you should open it because the investment is not why you bought it was a hundred bucks. It’s never going to be more, more than maybe three or four five in the future sealed like this.
Jon If you get zero out of having it in your collection sealed, don’t waste that effort trying to preserve it, open it up and enjoy it. But sometimes for me, having a nice sealed one, that gives me a little warm feeling in and of itself.
Mo yeah
Jon You know what i mean
George I think for me, goes back to that crime scene cleaner game and your opinion versus my opinion on that.
Jon mean? Mm-hmm.
George Having it sealed or unsealed either way will provide me with anxiety over joy because I’m either going to be worried about not ever getting to hold the patch or I’m going to be worried, shit, I should never have opened this thing because the $5,000 value is now worth $400 instead.
Jon oh no Yep.
Jon I ruined it. Yeah. you’re stuck.
George Yeah. Anyway. four hundred instead
Mo Right.
Jon Oh, no. Right.
George yeah
Jon Yeah.
George anyway
Jon All right. Well, you’ll have to tell us what you decide. And if anybody writes in with their advice, we’ll check it out, too. We’ll be right back.
Jon As we wind out at the back end of the show here, we always like to take a few minutes right here to talk about the things we’re either looking at right now or looking forward to between now and the next time we get together.
Jon And why don’t we start with you, Moe? What do you have on the horizon?
Mo Sure. Oh, yeah. So on Netflix, there’s a second season to a series I really enjoyed called Alice in Borderlands. um I’m really kind of curious see where this goes.
George Hmm. Yeah. yeah
Mo um And this was ah ah quite a few years back when the first series went through. And they definitely set up for a second season and they just finally got around to it.
Jon I remember you talking about that back then.
Mo So… Definitely looking forward to that one.
Jon Yeah.
Mo um There’s also a new season of a show I really enjoy called The Reluctant Traveler with Eugene Levy.
Jon Yeah.
Mo um It’s just a fun travel show.
Jon Right.
Mo And he’s not a guy who likes traveling. So it’s kind of one of those like fun kind of like how uncomfortable he is or isn’t, you know, or how surprised he is about things.
Jon Hmm.
Mo So that’s always a fun one. ah What really looking forward to, though, is a new series on Disney Plus called Marvel Zombies. And this was a comic book series, kind of spinoff series, I guess, where alternate universe, where zombie apocalypse happens in the Marvel universe.
George Yeah.
Jon Hmm.
Mo And some of the superheroes become zombies.
Jon Okay.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo So now there’s super powered zombies, which really sucks.
George Most. Yeah.
Mo um
Jon Oh, no.
Mo And so they’re doing like an animated, a limited series. i think going like maybe eight episodes, I think total. But they, and they touched on it a little bit in the end of one of the movies, I think, or something like that.
Jon Okay.
Mo I think they showed a little bit like of the zombie thing, but um this is going to go into a little bit more in depth and it’s just a new take on, ah you know, something we’ve seen before, but it just sounds like it be fun. Cause I’m kind of curious how a zombie power superhero would operate quite honestly.
Jon Hmm. Yeah. Okay.
Mo So that’s what I have going on. How about you, George?
George ah Yeah, well, first up, I’ve got a series that ah hit really hard last year. It’s one of the um main people from ah Always Sunny in Philadelphia, her starring vehicle called High Potential.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George It’s going to come out on ABC September 16th, season two. ah My wife and I love that series, along with the other one, Found.
Jon Yep.
George Unfortunately, Found was canceled. So at least we got one of those series to last into another season.
Jon Oh, yeah.
George I’m also looking forward to the Marvel zombies thing. I didn’t read that series or that run of comics, but I always had questions. How does um a zombie Deadpool or a zombie Wolverine work?
Mo I have no idea.
George Because they have them and I’m like, they can’t be killed. How are they zombies? That doesn’t make any sense to me. But anyway, I’m sure they’ll explain it in the series.
Mo Yeah, they’re double can’t be killed.
George But the thing I’m looking forward to the most is the third season of Tulsa King. This is the Sylvester Stallone Mafia ah vehicle on Paramount+.
Jon Oh, nice.
Mo That’s right.
George It comes out on September 21st. They have every year left it on a nice little cliffhanger, but also in a way that if they couldn’t come back for another season, fans were satisfied.
George That’s the way season two ended. Although I was always going to be looking forward to a season three. I’m glad that they decided they could come back and make that happen because boy, Stallone has really developed this character really well.
George Now I know his speech pattern kind of lends toward the mafia Italian thing.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo A little bit.
Jon everyone
George But the character is very nuanced. It has a lot of subtlety, a lot of layers, and the way that the cast interacts around each other is top-notch. So Season 3 of Tulsa King on Paramount+, plus September 21st, is what I’m most looking forward to.
Jon no
George John, how about you?
Jon Yeah, well, I’ve got to add Tulsa King. i know I haven’t finished season two because I’m kind of slow walking it because I thought it was going to end after season two i didn’t want it to be over. Well, now I can watch two because there’s the recombin’. That’s great.
Jon High Potential was on my list. I discovered that probably a couple months after you did. And I remember saying, have heard of this show? you’re like, oh, yeah, it’s one of our favorites. So that’s a really good, good series. And I was enjoying that.
Jon um There’s a new movie coming out. I think it’s a limited run in the theaters called Strange Journey, the story of Rocky Horror. So this kind of a documentary ah about how that movie came about and how it’s become like the number one, you know, just…
Mo Colt.
George Ooh.
Mo c colt
Jon ah cult Cult film, right, is what i’ was looking for. Number one cult film ever and has still people watching it today and throwing toast at the screen and stuff. So interested in that.
Mo since
Jon Hitting theater September 26th. And then a series that actually comes out the day after this podcast releases on September 19th on Netflix called Haunted Hotel.
Jon This an animated series. Has some of the creators from Rick and Morty in it, so kind of a twisted sense of humor. Not entirely unlike the television series Ghost we and that we enjoy in that it’s a hotel that people are running, but also they live there with a bunch of monsters and ghosts.
Mo oh okay. Okay.
Jon But this isn’t just ghosts, it’s
George Oh, okay
Jon all sorts of demons and tentacles coming out of the, it’s almost like um like a, like a, monsters kind of house. Like there’s all kinds of monsters in and around the house. And, and this family’s trying to run this hotel that they know is haunted, but they have to deal with it. And it’s a comedy.
Jon So it’s a, it’s those kinds of situations, kind the macabre and spooky and creepy, which I enjoy. And I’m sure there’s could be werewolves and all sorts of crap in there, but haunted hotel, September 19th on Netflix, a stuff I am looking forward to.
Mo Awesome.
Jon um Now, before we wrap it up, I know I have a new patron to thank, but before I do, I know that mo the periodically a patron will write in because one of the benefits is having an answer. One of the benefits is having one of your questions answered right here on the show.
Mo Any question?
Jon Do you have a question for us this time?
Mo Oh, absolutely. ah This week is from our longtime favorite person, Kat.
Jon Okay.
Jon Oh, hey, Kat.
George He he he.
Mo ah And she wrote in just do you have a memory? Doesn’t need to be a favorite, but just something remarkable from a road trip or other long travel during your youth. And also from now, but let’s just stick to one or the other.
Mo So yeah basically a good car trip travel story.
Jon Okay.
Mo Does anybody guys have one?
Jon Oh, you know, I can start in most of my best memories of road trips. When I was ah like a teen, I never really did many road trips ah with with folks as I lived in the middle of the woods and we didn’t go anywhere. But but when I was younger, we did we traveled and drove for vacations with the family, you know.
Jon And my dad was a dad who would be willing to stop at whatever crazy thing was on the side of the road to see whatever it was, you know, the biggest ball of twine or the biggest boot in Texas or whatever.
Mo Yeah.
Jon I always go to all those sorts of things. But what of the best memories I have of road trips with my family like that was, you know, when you’re young, you have you have a family members that you’re like, how am I related to this person?
Mo yeah
Jon Who’s dad or uncle or whatever is that? And so one of my favorite memories of that was my maternal grandmother and her family. said yeah Who is grandma on whose side? I didn’t know all that, but I knew that she was the grandma that had green army men in her kitchen.
Jon She had a big laundry bag of green army men and come to learn every kid that ever visited.
George Ah.
Jon That’s how they knew her house too. Because while the adults were talking and drinking coffee and smoking and whatever, you could, you could lay down in the middle of the kitchen, open this bag of green army men and play with it. and And to that end, I have a nice heavy green army man doorstop that I picked up just kind of as a kind of ah in memory of my my grandmother on that side, because I always played the green army men at her house. And it was a highlight of all the things we would do on our trip.
Jon Playing with her little army men in her kitchen was the thing I was most looking forward to often. And it it still is a fond memory of that.
Mo That’s cool.
Jon Yeah, that’s mine.
Mo Okay, cool.
Jon Thanks, Kat.
Mo How about you, George?
George ah Well, I’m going to go with how she asked the question. She said remarkable, um because this definitely wouldn’t be considered a fond memory at all.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon Oh. Mm-hmm.
George But we we didn’t take a lot of road trips um for vacations other than either going to Orlando or going back home to Kentucky to visit relatives.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George And on one of those trips, going back home to Kentucky to visit relatives, it was going to be just my mother and myself. My father had stayed home running the family business, whatnot. And this was obviously pre-internet, pre-GPS, you know, barely had maps off of stone tablets at this point, right?
George This is a long time ago.
Jon Yeah.
George ah We were driving and we were caught in a really bad storm. And i think my mother, she would have had to have been in her thir s at this point.
George ah Late 30s, probably. But she was not a well-seasoned traveler on her own.
Mo Okay.
George Like everywhere she had ever been in her life was with my father.
Mo Okay.
Jon yeah
Mo okay
George That was it. This is one of the rare times when it was just her and I. And she was petrified. We got in the storm. This before cell phones. so she pulled over the side of the road to call dad and ask what he should do, what she should do.
George He says, well, just get a hotel and stay for the night. Because normally we just make that trip in one drive. You know, wasn’t that big of a deal. But she pulled over. I believe this was around Tennessee. We had just gotten maybe off the bypass or something around Knoxville, I think.
George And there was only one hotel that had a vacancy. because there weren’t a ton of hotels back then and everybody was stopping because of the storm, I guess.
Jon right
Mo Oops.
George So every hotel near the interstate was full except for one. Well, this was not the hotel that a mother and her child would normally want to stay at.
Mo oops
Jon ah It’s the no-tell motel.
Mo and
George Yeah. So, uh, she was scared to death. It was literally one of those, you know, drive up to the door, motels, not a hotel.
Jon Yeah.
George And, She got the room. She was terrified. it was like probably 11 o’clock at night, dark as hell out because of the storm anyway.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And she gets us bundled up and into the room, and she’s freaking out because the room, even this is in the, I think, late 70s, maybe early 80s, the room standards were atrocious.
Mo but Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Okay.
George ah So much so that what I remember distinctly was
Mo Mm-hmm.
George she put a one of the chairs in the room up under the door handle of the room to try and you know provide extra security.
Jon Right.
George And then we were not allowed to sleep without our clothes on or under the sheets. We had to sleep on top of the sheets with our clothes on.
Jon Quick exit. Yeah.
George Right? Which, for a young child, is not the most comfortable thing. You’re tossing and turning and whatnot.
Mo Thank you.
George But I just remember… how scared she was and how protective of me she was. So it’s just always stood out in my memory over all those trips, that one circumstance.
George And I don’t think I was more than eight, nine or 10 years old at the time, but it’s still stuck with me to this day.
Jon Wow.
Mo Yeah, I can see that.
Jon Yeah, okay.
Mo I can see that. Yeah, mine is in a similar vein, like not necessarily a happy memory, but it was an interesting one. was that my dad, we did take a lot of road trips every summer. yeah Anytime we had a break, you know, my dad threw us in the back of the station wagon.
Jon Okay.
Mo He had one of those big, giant Buick station wagons with wood paneling on the side, you know, and we had the window that the back, like the back window could roll up
Jon Mm-hmm, awesome.
Mo a little bit.
Jon Yeah.
Mo So, so we had a dog.
George Oh, Oh.
Jon Yeah.
Mo And so we would do is my dad would roll up the back window about a few inches. Dog would stick his head out the back window and, you know, not get car sick, which is basically the whole point of doing that.
Jon Right.
Mo um So we were driving, I think it was through Florida actually. And we were doing a whole thing, you know of course all the back seats are down with blankets and stuff like that. Cause you know, they didn’t care about safety standards back then. And then, and also we look and the dog fell out the back window.
Jon Oh, no.
Mo So what happened was somebody had stacked bags right there.
George ah
Mo And so the dog was standing on top of the bags to get to the window and it put him so high that she fell out. So I look at the back.
Jon so
Mo I see our dog tumbling down the highway.
Jon Oh.
Mo I’m freaking out.
George wow
Mo My dad, you we’re all screaming at that point. My dad looks back and all he is, the first that popped in his head is, oh, she’s gone. That was the first that popped in his head. He said it out loud, which I’m like, don’t say that, you
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Pulls over. We look at, course, you know highway speeds, all that stuff. We’re a good like eighth a mile away. Dog gets up.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Starts just running in a circle for a while. And then we call her. Luckily, there’s no one else on the road. And she runs back and all she had was a busted lip.
Jon Wow.
George Wow.
Mo She was completely fine. My dad was doing like 60.
Jon Mmm.
Mo I mean, this was like highway speeds. And the only we figured is that the dog, like, you know dogs aren’t like people.
Jon Duck and roll. Duck and roll.
Mo They probably don’t tense up when they fall. They just like go with it.
Jon Mmm.
Mo ah So she just went with it, jumped back in the car, and like the dog would not stick its head off the window the whole rest of the trip.
Jon Ha ha ha ha
Mo So my dad was worried about the dog getting car sick, but he had some pity.
Jon live and learn
Mo So he’s like, all right, dog gets car sick. We’ll just deal with it. You know, but that was fine. So it all turned out fine. But obviously, it’s one of those things that happens that you just can’t get out of your head.
Jon Yikes.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo So, but Kat, thanks for the question.
Jon Damn.
Mo I mean, it was a little trip down memory lane for all of us.
Jon Yeah.
Mo But again, anybody out there, if you want your question answered on this channel, it’s really easy. Just go to genxgroomup.com slash Patreon as little as a dollar a month and you can get your question answered right here on this channel.
Jon That’s right. Just like a new patron, DataNode did not too long ago.
Mo Data node. Okay.
Jon I see DataNode. So it’s DataNode, but the O is a zero. So it’s special, right? So I see DataNode commenting in our YouTube comments all the time. And just recently, he did what you said, Mo. Headed over to patreon.com slash GenX Grownup and set up a regular small recurring pledge just to help us out to keep paying the bills and keep the lights on.
Jon DataNode, thank you for that. We appreciate you so much. you’ You’ve joined a… Look, a lineup of amazing folks that have done this for a long time and continue to support us. And we’re so happy to have you on board as well.
Jon That is going to wrap it up for this edition of the show. Don’t worry, though. If you were worried, do not worry. We’ll be back in two weeks with another one. And next week, though, is our backtrack. That’s where we pick a single nostalgic topic and dig in deep.
Jon um Let’s see, George, you’d like to do the honors and let the fourth listener know what’s coming up next week.
George Live from Gen X Grown Up, it’s Saturday night! That’s right, we’re going to talk about the 50-year history of one of the most iconic sketch television shows of American television.
George This is going to be ah stupid podcast, because there’s no goddamn way we’re going to be able to cover everything, so please do not write in with hate mail saying, you forgot about this, you forgot about that!
Mo Nope.
Jon but
Mo We forgot this. yeah
George It’s not that we forgot, there’s just only so much time in an episode that we can dedicate.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Yeah, absolutely.
George This really… probably is its own podcast series in multiple places.
Jon No kidding. Yep.
George We’re going to just kind of cover some highlights. We’re going to talk about some of our favorite stuff, some of the most notable cast members, a little bit of the influence.
Jon Love it.
George It should be a blast, but I’m definitely looking forward to talking about this with Mo and John because this is stupid, ladies and gentlemen.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George I can’t believe we’re going to do this, but we’re going to give it a shot.
Jon Give try. That’s never stopped us before. We’re not that bright.
Mo That’s true.
Jon It’s okay.
Mo That’s a good point.
Jon You don’t want to miss that one. Until then, i am John George. Thank you so much for being here, man.
George Yes, sir.
Jon Mo, you know I appreciate you.
Mo Always fun, man.
Jon Fourth listener, it’s you. We all three appreciate most of all, though. We can’t wait to talk to you again next time. Bye-bye.
George See you guys.
Mo Take care, everybody.
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