St. Denis Medical, ChatGPT, & Indiana Jones & the Great Circle

 

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We watch a new film that follows the rise of an aspiring hip-hop trio from Northern Ireland, test-drive some new automotive technology to look forward to in your next new car, and play the new hero-shooter game where you can play as your favorite Marvel comics characters!

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SpeakerTranscript
JonWelcome back Gen X Grown Up podcast listener to this episode 182 of the Gen X Grown Up podcast. I am John. Joining me as always, of course, is George. Hey, man.
GeorgeHey, how’s it going, guys?
JonIt’s not a show without Mo. Hey, Mo, how are you?
MoHow’s it going, everybody?
JonIn this episode, we watch a new film that follows the rise of an aspiring hip hop trio from Northern Ireland, test drive some new automotive technology to look forward to in your next new car and play the new hero shooter game where you can play as your favorite Marvel Comics characters. We have those topics and many more lined up for you in this episode. Before we kick that off though,
JonWe like to stop here at the beginning to listen to one of our fourth listeners. The three of us are here. We’re liable to listen if anybody else does and bothers to tell us about it. you our You are our fourth listener. And the fourth listener for this episode is Brian J.
JonAnd here’s another one, how the satanic panic impacted me, the subject line of his email.
MoJeez.
JonMan, that’s popular.
MoYeah.
JonA lot of people resonated. Okay, let’s see what Brian had to say. Great show, guys. So I’m a Gen Xer, who, thank you, by the way, so I’m a Gen Xer who grew up in the 70s within the context of religious fundamentalism.
Jonwhen the whole backward masking thing came out, I was so convinced of the reality of this phenomenon that I actually took all my rock albums and burned them in our wood-burning stove in the front room of our farmhouse.” Wow, I was convinced.
GeorgeMmm.
MoGeez, that smell bad.
JonHe goes on to say, here’s the saddest part. These weren’t Black Sabbath or Ozzy Osbourne records. I destroyed my sticks, Foreigner, and it pains me to say this, Eagles Live albums.
GeorgeOoh. Oh no. Mmm.
JonWhoo, I don’t know if the Eagles were, were they even back masking or even accused of it?
MoOuch.
GeorgeI mean, um they might not have been accused of back masking, but Hotel California and witchy woman definitely fit into the satanic panic motif.
MoNo, I don’t think so.
JonOkay, you have a point. I guess that’s why they got burned. ah Anyway, Brian goes on to say, fortunately I have replaced them all now that I’ve grown up and come out of that narrow mindset.
GeorgeMm hmm.
JonYeah, we were all a victim of it, Brian.
MoCool.
JonDon’t feel bad.
GeorgeMm hmm.
MoYeah.
JonYou know, it impact this all one way or the other.
MoYeah. yeah
JonAnd, you know, if you got convinced is because they were lying to you, that’s what we talked about. Don’t feel bad. He wraps it up just saying, anyway, thanks again for a great show, b Brian.
JonBrian, thank you. We love that you wrote in. We’d love to hear about your reactions to the show. If you listener would like your email featured here on the show, you know, it’s drop dead easy. Just hit us up at podcast at Gen X grown up dot com. I read every single one and most of them just like Brian’s will eventually make the show. OK, with that good business in the rear view mirror, it’s time to jump into the body of episode one eighty two after this quick break.
JonIs it Dennis or Denis or?
GeorgeDennis.
MoDennis.
JonIt is Dennis. OK, all right. And it was French or some shit. OK.
JonMedia in five, four, three. We’re going to get the ball rolling as we always do at the top of each show, talking about new media we have been enjoying. Now, of course, this could be music or comics or books or television or movies or whatever you have been up to. And ah George, I want to start with you. You have something listed here that I had to ask you in the break how to pronounce it even. I’m not even sure what it is. What have you been checking out?
GeorgeYeah so it’s called St. Dennis Medical. Now this is a half hour comedy show, workplace comedy, in the style of Superstore and Office.
JonHmm.
GeorgeSo it actually shares some alumni from Superstore. So Sandra is in this as a series regular. Also the pharmacist from Superstore.
JonOkay.
GeorgeHe’s a series regular in this as well.
JonThe smarmy pharmacist guy.
Mosee Yeah.
Georgeah
Jonyeah Really?
GeorgeMateo has made a couple of appearances in this as part of the Nursing Filipino Mafia, which has been some fun stuff. This series got recommended to me by my one of my wife’s therapists. So you guys know my wife had a major stroke a little over a year ago, and we go to therapy a couple of times a week.
GeorgeAnd while we’re there in therapy, we often talk about things that, you know, we’re enjoying on TV or movies or sports or whatever with the therapist, uh, just because it’s part of that whole communal therapy process.
GeorgeAnd one of the therapists recommended to say, Oh, that’s right. You guys love the office. Cause my wife has a bunch of office and parks and rec socks that she wears to therapy and stuff.
MoHe he he.
GeorgeAnd so, they were saying, you guys need to check out this new show, St. Dennis Medical. So I’m like, okay, I went and added it to the Plex server, got the first couple of episodes and we were hooked from episode one.
GeorgeThis is super funny.
JonOh.
GeorgeIt’s well written. It’s just like the office in that it’s a documentary crew that is ah interviewing them during their day and filming them and whatnot. But it’s also got a little bit of super store feel and the way they go about things.
Georgeum One of the ah one of the main characters who is kind of a surprise, not that he’s so good at what he does or anything, but just to see him in this format is David Allen Greer from back in the in living color days.
JonOh really?
GeorgeHe plays one of the surgeons and he is a tremendous curmudgeon older guy in this series.
MoYeah.
JonUh huh.
MoYeah.
GeorgeUm, they even have one guy who my son and I found through a TV show called, uh, the jury or something like that. But it was this, Faux reality show where this guy thought he was a part of a reality show where the document documentary crew was uh filming what it’s like to be a jury member during a trial but it turned out everybody else was fake they were all actors except for the guy it’s really funny and that guy one of the guys in there he was kind of like this uh little green guy who was very uh
MoOh yeah, yeah.
JonReally?
MoLike literally everybody. If you haven’t seen this, it’s really good, but yeah.
Georgejust very new to the world kind of thing. He’s in this show as well, playing a similar character who’s a nurse that’s like from a former religious cult group.
MoWell, actually, I think he’s just like a letters a saint.
JonReally? Okay.
MoSo yeah.
GeorgeYeah, a little bit like a latter-day scene, but more cultish, apparently.
JonThat counts.
Georgeum They’ve got just some fun stuff. It’s got five or six episodes out at this point. They just dropped two more episodes the other night. ah If you enjoy The Office, Parks and Rec, or Superstore, this show is right up your alley.
GeorgeI couldn’t recommend it enough.
JonYou said you watched a couple episodes and were hooked.
GeorgeMm-hmm.
JonWhile you were talking, I added two shows to my watch list already. I’ve added this St. Dennis because as you describe it, like it’s exactly. I’ve rewatched Superstore probably the whole series three or four times, like The Office.
GeorgeYeah.
JonI can tear through that thing. The characters you talk about and then the jury duty. I went and looked that up. So now I’ve added two shows in the five minutes you’ve been talking.
MoYeah.
JonAnd I’m really looking forward to this, Satan Dennis, because I miss super stories canceled and we didn’t have anything like that right now.
GeorgeYeah.
Moyeah
JonSo I’m ready. Thanks for the recommendation.
MoYeah, I’m, I’m caught up on these episodes because that was somebody recommended to me as well.
JonHow are you?
MoI was like, Oh, and at first I was a little put off. I’m like, Oh, another office. I was them in my head, you know, when I saw it, but it’s original enough where it works.
GeorgeMm hmm.
MoLike the formic is the same kind of format, but you know, the characters are just different characters are funny as hell. The situations are funny as hell. I mean, it’s, um, it’s, it’s a, and it takes, but I think it’s an ER, isn’t it?
JonI mean, okay.
MoIs it an yeah ER or is it a regular?
GeorgeNo, it’s the entire hospital, but the ah ER is where a lot of the filming takes place just because ah one of the main characters is like the managing nurse of the ER r area.
MoOC Tyre Hospital. That’s it.
MoThat’s it.
GeorgeSo that’s why a lot of that is filmed in that one thing. But the hospital administrator who is, I forget her name, but if you guys ever saw the movie Blended, she was Drew Barrymore’s business partner in the movie Blended that were the closet queens, whatever they were called.
JonOK.
Georgeuh she’s pretty funny i like a lot of the stuff she does she’s very um cringe funny as my son would say uh that like the office did so she plays right into that role she’s an administrator who used to be a nurse who has no business being either and she uh like in the first episode just to give you a taste john um you’re already gonna be watching it but um
Moyes
JonOh, yeah, I’m on board. Give me more.
Georgethe The entire hospital, it’s it’s a smaller hospital underfunded. They don’t have a lot of money, but she wants to make them the top in the area.
MoYeah.
GeorgeSo she buys a $300,000 breast scanning machine.
JonOkay.
GeorgeAnd as she’s trying to, uh, go through with it and people are throughout the day are complaining about money constraints in other parts of the hospital. And she starts to have second thoughts and the crew is setting up the device. And they’re like, all you gotta to do is sign here. And she like keeps like, well, let me think, wait, is that a scuff on the bottom of that? And by the end of the episode, she’s having them take it away in the, you all try.
Moyeah
GeorgeSo it’s that kind of show, very funny, very positive.
JonYeah, I know. Love it.
Georgeah I really enjoy it. My wife loves it as well.
MoWhat I really like about those, like the characters, like the date, it’s just like a bunch of, you know, just funny situations. that ah But then when it comes down to them, like doing the work, they’re actually very good at it.
GeorgeSure.
MoYou know, like, like when they’re doing the work.
GeorgeYeah.
JonOh, so they’re like competent in this funny show. They’re not incompetent.
MoRight.
JonLike a Michael Scott.
Moit
JonLike when he had to be a boss and he just turned it on, he was amazing, but most of the time he was a clown.
GeorgeYeah.
MoMost times he’s like, yeah.
JonYeah.
GeorgeI mean, some of the times they’re competent.
JonYeah.
GeorgeSome of the people are not necessarily competent like the jury duty nurse guy.
JonOh, really? Okay.
MoOh.
GeorgeHe’s not really competent in a lot of the situations.
Moand like But yeah, nursing, he’s OK, though, but not but every other aspect of life, he’s not very good.
GeorgeI mean, I don’t know. Like in some of the first episodes, he’s, he doesn’t even know how to give an IV.
MoOh, that’s right.
GeorgeHe’s like freaking out about that. And like, there’s another episode where he’s given CPR to a guy and the guy survives.
JonNo.
GeorgeAnd like the rest of the episode, his whole mission is to get the man to tell him, thank you for saving my life and the guy won’t do it.
MoThank you.
Moand like i Well, yeah, it was funny.
JonLittle petty.
MoYeah, and the way that episode ends, I was cracking up. That was really funny, but definitely worth watching.
GeorgeYeah, it’s a really funny situational documentary office superstore, whatever comedy that you want to call it.
JonYeah.
JonYeah. I’ll watch it tonight.
GeorgeIt’s definitely formulaic. It definitely plays on the heels of its predecessors, but it’s got enough new in there that it’s well written enough. And the acting is tremendous. They do a great job.
MoYeah.
JonI’m in.
GeorgeThe actors do with bringing these characters life.
JonHmm.
GeorgeCan’t recommend it it enough. So St. Dennis medical, I don’t even know what channel it’s on. Cause I got it out of the, like kind of out of the blogosphere, wherever.
MoLet’s say NBC, I don’t know.
JonCheck your TV guide.
GeorgeYeah.
JonCheck your local listings for time.
GeorgeYeah, exactly. Mo, what about you? It appears that you’re watching a body part of mine.
MoYeah, yeah, yeah. it’s a It’s a movie on Netflix called kneecap.
GeorgeSee, I have one of those.
JonOh, I have two of those.
GeorgeI don’t have two anymore, but I got one ah football sports wall.
MoYeah, I have two, so I’m lucky.
JonWhere’d you do with your other one, George? Oh, football, baseball. You lost it to the sports.
GeorgeThere you go.
JonYeah. Okay.
MoSo actually Amy found this cause it was recommended cause it has a 95% on rotten tomatoes from critics and 95% from audience.
GeorgeHmm.
JonOkay.
JonOkay.
MoSo both. So we’re like, okay, Netflix has given a shot.
JonPromising.
MoSo it’s basically about these two kids who grew up in Northern Ireland. Um, their father or one of the kids dad’s was like a revolutionary, you know, you know, screw England, all the whole bit.
MoAnd so he makes sure that his kids speaks Irish. you know, which is, and so now they’re now, it starts them as little kids and they grew up with teenagers now. And they’re just basically just, you know, they sell drugs, they do, you know, it’s not like they’re, they’re just sort of like get mail in drugs from other countries and sell it and that kind of thing, you know, so the small time. Um, but they somehow get embroiled in this whole thing of Ireland trying to get rid of Irish as an official language, which is a true thing.
MoBecause they just said, just speak English, don’t speak Gaelic. So it kind of starts off where he, you know, when the kids gets arrested and he just refuses to speak English and the cop keeps talking to him and all he speaks, he just speaks Irish back to the guy. So to get a nu someone else in there to like help translate, even though the kid totally speaks English, it doesn’t really matter.
MoAnd so he’s translated, he finds out that the kid like writes all this like amazing like rap music, like poetry and stuff.
JonHmm.
MoHe sees it.
JonMhm.
MoSo he he’s an ex-music teacher that’s like disgruntled. So he convinces these kids like go to his little recording studio and making make write a song and do a rap song in Irish.
JonOkay.
JonNo, okay.
MoSo a lot of it’s in Irish. They do English, they go back and forth, but a lot of it’s in Irish. So without meaning to, they sort of become this symbol of being Irish, being, speaking the language and how important it is and, you know, and, you know, some of the younger people are starting to learn it now because of them, you know, and all this stuff.
MoAnd, and it’s about them and the situation around it. Um, nobody, you know, is in it there. It turns out they’re actually a true rap group. They’re actually are, they are rap group called kneecap. That is, they’re actually, they actually exist.
JonOh, okay. So is this a docudrama or it’s just kind of, it’s about them.
MoSort of kinda, no, no, it’s, ah it’s more, no, it’s like a fictionalization of there’s like eight mile, you know, like it’s about the,
JonOkay. Ah.
MoYou know what I mean?
Jonah
MoIt’s, it’s them, but you know, kind of not them. Um, the only person who’s in it that anyone would know is Michael Fassbender. He plays, you know, he’s not a huge role, but he plays like when the dad’s in it and stuff, entertaining as hell.
GeorgeOh yeah.
MoAnd even though they do speak a lot of Irish in it, it just works. Like it flows. Like you’re not sitting there like, what are they saying? Like either, you know, they do have subtitles, George, just so you know, there are some subtitles in there.
GeorgeFair.
JonUnlike the Star Wars Holiday Special.
MoYeah. But some of the things like, I mean, sometimes they don’t, but you don’t need it. Like you just totally know what they’re talking about. Like you just just because the conversation flow, you know what’s going on and stuff.
Jonokay
Moum The music itself is actually pretty good, but it’s it’s funny. It’s like a light comedy as well. So it’s a really great movie.
GeorgeYou know, you mentioned Michael Fassbender being the only known actor in this. I’ve noticed he’s kind of pulled a couple of these roles out of his back pocket lately. Remember he was in that soccer movie about the soccer team from the islands going to the world cup and all that stuff.
MoOh, yeah.
GeorgeHe’s, it’s almost like he’s trying to get away from the Marvel X-Men universe and trying to branch out into these different roles. I, I love him as an actor just on his name alone makes me want to see the film.
MoOh yeah. He said he’s not a huge part, but he’s, he’s amazing. I mean, you know, his acting and he said the two guys are basically playing themselves. So they do fine. ah you know So it’s not a reach role for them, you know, but they, but the surround.
JonWe need type. How about you? You’re the guy, right?
MoYeah, exactly. So, but they’re surrounded by it. And it said, it’s, it’s just a really great movie. It’s fun. I said, ah we watched, I was like, wow, I could see why I got 95%. Like I, I would wholly recommend this movie.
JonMm hmm. Earned it.
MoSo if you’re looking for something to watch on Netflix, go for it kneecap. So that’s what I got. So, oh, John, what you’re going to talk about.
JonMm hmm.
MoOh, this is going to be great. You go for it, man.
JonYeah, so ah surprising, well, not surprising now, a year ago, surprising when I heard this series announced. ah So you’ll remember back in the mid 2000s, 2010s or whatever, on Showtime, there was a series called Dexter, starring Michael C Hall. And it was all about he’s effectively a serial killer who works at the Miami Dade Police Department as a blood spatter analyst. And he works there because He was born with serial killer tendencies. And his father, when he was young, recognized, oh, look, he’s hurting animals or whatever he has these desires. And he was a cop tries to channel his son to teach him how to channel that those urges and ultimately to kill bad people who he’s certain are guilty, who the law can’t get to like a vigilante, right?
JonAnd then that was a great series. The last couple of seasons kind of went wobbly, but it was still enjoyable.
MoAmazing. ah Yeah.
JonAnd then it was over. And then they came black. And then they came back with Dexter New Blood a couple, three years ago, which was like a catch up with him and his son and everything.
MoYeah. yeah
JonAnd at the end of that show, he was shot by his son.
MoYeah.
JonSpoiler alert for the three year old TV show. Sorry. And so I figured the story was over. And then I heard they’re doing a prequel series. Think Think that the ah young Sheldon as compared to Big Bang.
JonLike you have the show that happened at this time. Let’s go back in time and see this person as a youngster. So it just premiered. I’ve seen one episode so far and it took me all of about seven minutes to be in love with this show for all sorts of reasons.
MoYeah.
Jonum You probably won’t know a lot of the people in it, but you will definitely know Dexter’s father played by Christian Slater of all people.
MoYeah.
GeorgeOh.
JonAnd he’s amazing in this. So in in the original Dexter series, Dexter’s father was passed away. And so he would see him like as a ghost, remembering things that he taught him. Well, now you get to see him learning this.
JonAnd Michael C. Hall is there like the young Sheldon thing narrating. He’s telling the story.
Mothey Only his voice.
GeorgeOh, okay.
JonAnd one of the best parts of Dexter was this deadpan, I don’t really have emotion kind of narration.
MoHe’s a little snarky too.
JonVery snarky, yeah, definitely in there.
Molike
Jonbut And it’s it’s biting commentary that’s funny and macabre and so creepy at the same time. And I’ll give you an example, like you kind of did, George, with your show. We get to see Dexter’s first kill.
JonWe know from the history, we learned the original Dexter, that Dexter’s first kill was a nurse in the hospital where his father was being treated who was one of those let’s kill people and put them out of their misery kind of nurses.
MoYeah.
JonYou hear these stories, right? And his dot dad gives him the go ahead to kill this older nurse. And as he’s setting up for the first kill, and he has the room and everything this this narration goes, you never forget your first time.
Mois
JonMine was with an older woman. Because he’s about to kill this nurse his first kill.
GeorgeWow.
JonIt is I remember when I first showed the the show to my wife, the original show, the old one, she’s like, I can’t watch a show like this. It’s about a killer. I can’t like i’ i don’t and don want i don’t want to relate to a killer or or get behind him or anything, but the way it’s put together and the way he’s genuinely a real person trying to do good despite his, you could say disability, his innate urge to to kill.
MoMm-hmm. How you get behind him.
Jonah They have captured all of that in a way that takes place in like 1991. So there’s VHS tapes and beepers everywhere. So it’s kind of a period piece. It’s great on the on the quality of the first episode alone, even if you didn’t watch the old ones, which it’ll pay off if you did. But on its own, well put together show and worth watching.
MoYeah, I really like how ah you see all the original characters much younger.
JonYounger.
MoAnd the thing is that as soon as you see them, you know who they are.
JonOh, yeah.
MoLike the second you see them and as soon as one person, as soon as he opens his mouth, you’re like, I know who that is.
JonYeah. Well cast. Yeah.
MoYou know, I mean, you just, you just know who these people are. Cause it’s like how he even gets involved in the police department and how he goes that direction. Cause first he was a medical student, weird, but then he goes off, you know?
JonMm hmm.
MoSo, um, yeah, I thought it was really great. I’m trying to figure out where I’m still curious to see where it’s going to go. Like what,
JonSure.
MoLike, is is it going to be kind of a similar thing where he’s going to be going against somebody, you know, like in Dexter, like every season, he was him versus usually another serial killer kind of deal, or is it just going to be episodic?
JonMm hmm.
MoI mean, I don’t know. But um yeah, it’s and the guy they playing young Dexter, great casting.
JonReally good, captured, him yeah, yeah. and And just like with any prequel, I mean, something like, you know, Strange New Worlds and Star Trek or whatever, some characters have plot armor because like, look, certain certain things can’t happen to this person because we know where he is in 10 years.
JonBut still, you can tell stories within that um that are interesting.
MoMm hmm.
JonAnd so far, I mean, they’re they’re off to a good start for me. And ah Dexter’s sister, Deb, is a notoriously foul-mouthed character, always spewing profanities. Georgie would love her.
Jonand in and And my favorite line from this first episode was, When they were in the hospital and the nurse, not the killer nurses, other nurses talking and because I’m going to tell you, you got to smoke and stop smoking those fucking cigarettes.
JonOh, pardon my French. And the daughter sitting there and says, don’t worry, your French is impeccable.
JonShe applauds it. So, yeah, Dexter original sin. It’s a it’s a creepy premise, but a really well done show. And the more you solve the old ones, the more you’ll enjoy this one.
MoYeah.
JonBut even on its own worth watching. Give it a check out. Give it a shot. Okay, that’s enough of that. I think we and we made it through there.
GeorgeAll right, I gotta go check on them real quick.
MoAll right. Let’s jump into tech and toys. Uh, George, what do you got for us today?
GeorgeWell, so it’s a little bit of tech, but definitely not a toy. But it’s just an interesting thing that I discovered um because I was having a problem. And, you know, when you have a problem, you go and try and find a solution. I um have this movie ah that is a terrible movie. It’s called The Darkest Hour.
GeorgeIt’s this post-apocalyptic alien invasion kind of thing based out of Russia with Americans who were over there visiting and these aliens come down and like they’re invisible and they use electricity to kill people.
JonOkay.
GeorgeIt’s it’s a terrible movie.
MoOkay. Okay.
Georgeum
MoI want to see this now.
Jonright We’ll trust you.
GeorgeBut I like it because, you know, it’s a nostalgic thing for me. um But the copy that I was able to procure through the public domain, it had subtitles for the Russian speaking parts, which was important to the storyline, but they were always off by 30 seconds.
JonOkay.
MoOh.
GeorgeNow, I don’t know how many times you guys have gotten movies from the public domain, but oftentimes the subtitles can be mistimed depending upon the copy of the video that you have versus the copy of the subtitles that you have. And the subtitle world is incredibly difficult to wade through and find the right subtitle if there is even one available for the video copy that you have of a particular film or TV show.
GeorgeLike I said, I’ve been looking for the proper subtitles for this movie for at least two years because it’s just irritating enough.
JonOkay.
MoOh, wow.
GeorgeLike if it’s only a couple of seconds off, you’re not going to notice it.
MoYeah, you can deal with it, right?
George30 seconds.
MoThat’s a lot.
GeorgeIt’s, it’s quite a bit.
JonIt’s worthless. It’s distracting and garbage.
GeorgeYeah.
MoYeah.
JonYeah.
GeorgeAnd they were 30 seconds early. So like the subtitle would come up and then 30 seconds later, the scene would happen.
MoHow did that person die? yeah
JonRight. Why did you shoot me in the face? Oh, here it comes.
GeorgeRight, exactly.
Jonso
Georgeoh So I started playing around the other day and I was like, oh, let me try and see if I can do this manually, which is a pain in the butt when you’re looking at like 70, 80 subtitles in a movie. If it’s a movie with nothing but subtitles, I wouldn’t even attempt it.
JonHuh.
GeorgeAnd then I said, you know what? There’s a thing called chat GPT out there. Let me just see what chat GPT could do. We’ve used chat GPT ourselves to help us generate interesting titles for the videos or maybe descriptions or things of that nature.
GeorgeAnd I just went to chat GPT and I said, if I gave you an SRT file, could you adjust the times for me? That’s all I said to chat GPT.
JonHmm.
GeorgeChat GPT said, sure thing, just tell me to increase plus this many seconds or decrease this many seconds and I can give you the file back.
MoNo.
MoNo.
GeorgeThat’s what I know.
GeorgeI, there is a way to attach files to your chat but GPT sessions.
MoYeah.
JonRight.
GeorgeIt’s a little, you know, paperclip icon.
MoYeah.
GeorgeYou attach the file, tell it what you want done with the file. It created a new file for me. I clicked the little button, downloaded the file. I had brand new subtitles took less than 10 seconds.
MoThat’s.
Jonand And they were right.
GeorgeTwo years. I’ve been searching for the yes. Perfect. I mean, the subtitles were already correct.
JonI know, but they were in wrong spot the whole way through.
MoIt’s just off. The timing was off.
GeorgeThey were.
JonYeah.
GeorgeAnd so I went and figured out exactly, I think it was like 22 seconds. I figured out, uh, just by, you know, timing the scene to when the subtitle popped up and I was like, okay, it needs to be 20, move 22 seconds.
JonOkay.
GeorgeI told jet GPT to do it. Whole new file done. I’ve been two years. I’ve been trying to get this shit done.
JonI’m stunned.
GeorgeChet GPT does it in 10 seconds.
MoYeah. I mean, I know that the subtitle files themselves are usually pretty straightforward. It’s just like a time code words.
GeorgeMm-hmm.
JonMm hmm.
MoBut just the idea that trying to do that yourself and manually go through and it would be impossible.
JonA pain in the ass. Yeah.
MoIt’d be, it’d drive you crazy to do that yourself.
JonYeah.
GeorgeYeah. Mhm.
MoUm, I’m just, I’m, I’m surprised to be quite honest. I’m just surprised that that worked.
GeorgeI was very happy and surprised at how flawlessly it worked. That was my big thing.
JonI can’t tell you what part of it stuns me the most. The first that it with it worked, yes.
MoYeah.
JonBut then I start backing up like, so it had to know what an SRT file was.
GeorgeMhm.
JonIt had to know the format. And it all starts to like, it’s starting to like coalesce in my head like, oh, well it knows how to write C sharp and stuff like that. So SRT files, just another flavor of XML and raw text.
MoYeah.
Jonand but it understands there’s an in and out and add 22 seconds to both and do the math and modify them.
GeorgeMm hmm.
MoThat’s yeah.
JonThat’s what AI should be for is doing mundane shit that I could do myself, but as a royal pain in the ass.
GeorgeYep.
MoThat’s wow.
Jonthat’s I had never considered that application for it.
GeorgeAnd it worked.
JonThat’s crazy.
GeorgeYeah. Walkaway is if there’s something that you don’t want to do, but needs to be done, and it has to do with computer files, ask chat GPT and see if he can do it for you.
JonJust ask.
JonMaybe, yeah.
MoHoly cow.
GeorgeNow I will caution you. There are some limitations. I’m on the free model of chat GPT because I’m not paying for shit.
JonYeah, sure.
Mohuh
GeorgeIt’s public domain, right? But.
JonYeah.
Georgechat GPT does have some limitations with its free models. For instance, I was trying to do a similar function after this was successful with some emails that I had where I wanted a chat GPT to pull some information out of the emails, create a spreadsheet for me of that information and let me download the file.
JonOkay.
GeorgeNow, first of all, it can do it. And it was perfectly willing to do it. However, there was a limitation on how many emails I could upload at one time within a 24 hour period.
JonHmm.
Moah Okay.
GeorgeSo I had 30 or 40 emails that I wanted to do this with and I could only do like four a day on the free model.
JonOkay.
MoAh.
GeorgeSo there are some limitations. There are some other chat GPT like products out there that say they are totally free. Don’t fucking believe it. They also have premium features and whatnot.
Georgebut But at least it has capabilities like this that it never occurred to me until I just was frustrated and fed up one night and said to hell with it.
JonYeah.
GeorgeI’m just going to ask.
Moi yeah I never were thought to even do that, to be quite honest.
JonNo, it occurred to me.
MoIt would never occur to me that that’s something that you can try to do.
GeorgeYeah.
MoThat’s pretty amazing.
GeorgeYeah, it was pretty cool.
Mohu Huh, huh.
Jondone
GeorgeWell, I know John didn’t have any tech or toys for this segment, but Mo, since it’s your segment, I always assume that you’re always going to have something because we know historically you’ve always had something for your own segment.
Jonyeah
MoYeah. Oh, yeah.
JonStunned.
MoYeah, that’s right. I kind of have to be so, um, so today, so, uh, Amy has, she had a Mazda that was just nothing but trouble.
JonHmm. Yeah.
MoOkay. 24,000 miles had replaced the transmission to give you an idea how much trouble, you know, um, the radio would just randomly change stuff on you, like a chain stations or call people or just randomly, it was just ridiculous.
GeorgeHmm.
MoAnd then they went to charge her $800 to fix it. You know, and so, so anyway, we traded them.
GeorgeWow.
MoWe got a brand new car now. We’re very happy. So Honda. Um, but I was just shocked about now my, I have a truck that I’ve had for over 10 years. I love it. Don’t plan to get rid of it.
MoIt works great. Never had a single issue with it. Um, so this is the first time I really experienced like a new car in a while. And I was just shocked cause this wasn’t even like a top of the line model, but I was shocked at the amount of technology.
Mothat was in this. And a lot of things it does for you that it does.
JonRight. Like what?
MoSo it had things like, so it has some basic things, right? Like, okay, it’ll turn your brights, it’ll put your brights up and down, like on and off, depending if there’s no one in front of you, I’ll put your brights up automatically and do stuff based stuff like that.
JonMm hmm.
GeorgeRight.
JonOK, yeah.
GeorgeYep.
MoSo I was like, okay, yeah, that’s fine. You know, um, it has cameras up front for doing various activities. But one of the things it’ll do is it reads speed limit signs and puts them up on a dash.
GeorgeOh, yeah.
JonLike in the real world, the sign on the side of the road.
MoYeah, the sign inside the road.
JonOkay. Huh.
MoIf it detects it, it’ll put up ah like right there in front, right next to your speedometer.
JonAll right.
MoIt’ll put what the speed limit is right there.
JonHmm.
MoIf it if it sees a sign, I was like, oh, okay, that can be handy, right?
JonOkay.
MoBut then it also does things like it’ll keep you c centered in your lane automatically.
GeorgeMm hmm.
JonHmm.
MoSo if you’re driving and I tried it just because it’s what the hell, it keeps you, it turns.
GeorgeYep.
MoMy hands not touching the steering wheel. I mean, I was like k eight, like I kept it really close because I don’t trust machines.
JonRight.
Moso but the fact that it did that, I was like, and so I was like like, my question is just general question. Is that going too far? Like, I mean, come on. I mean, what’s left? You know, I mean, and to me it’s like, I can see someone getting overconfident with something like that.
MoThinking that it’s going to, oh, it’ll keep me in center. I don’t have to pay attention anymore.
JonMm hmm.
MoYou know? And now suddenly, you know, the person, now is that risk less than the risk of somebody just being a dumbass and going off to side the side of the lane? I don’t know.
JonYeah, it’s intriguing to me. and I’ve heard of some of these technologies before didn’t know about the camera looking at the real world and adjusting things. But It’s, there’s, of course we hear about, well, I guess Tesla cars, I guess some other electronic cars and stuff have the, like the automatic driving, which is really fat.
MoHmm. Yeah.
JonLike the car will come and pick you up at the curb at crazy stuff. That stuff blows me away. And I, I’m maybe in 20 years, we’ll all trust that. I don’t right now.
MoI don’t either.
JonThese assistive technologies, they sound really interesting because
MoYeah.
JonI know my wife got a car maybe five years ago or so, and it had some kind of adaptive, like she said, turn it off because I feel like it’s taking control away from me. If you know it’s there, I can see the assist of stuff being nice, you know, where’s the speed limit, keep me in my lane.
Moyeah
JonBut I think I would be inclined to turn it off just because it would feel weird to have some resistance like the car’s trying to do something I didn’t want it to do, even if it’s smarter than me until I trusted it later.
MoYeah.
GeorgeSo some of the things that you’re talking about, Mo, I’ve already had in my wife’s van.
MoOkay.
Georgeum The little the speed sign being put up on your display on your dash, we have that in her van.
MoYeah.
MoOkay, okay.
JonOh, wow.
Georgeum We have the little alarm that sounds if she moves in and out of the lane improperly, but it doesn’t center you in the lane like you’re talking about.
MoOkay.
GeorgeAlthough that’s been a feature that I’ve seen advertised for at least the last four or five years now on vehicles.
MoYeah, it’s been a while for me.
GeorgeUm, one thing that she has on her van, that’s kind of like a predecessor to some of those is the adaptive cruise control.
MoHmm.
GeorgeA lot of cars have that where you decide how closely you want to follow the cars in front of you.
MoYeah, that has it.
Jonyeah
GeorgeAnd then it, can vary your speed according to the car in front of you, even to the point of stopping your vehicle when the car in front of you stops.
MoRight.
Georgeum So that’s a little bit more akin to the keeping you centered online. A lot of the newer cars now, especially the electric vehicles from the major companies, the Fords and the Hondas and everybody else, they’re not just doing the self-centering thing.
Georgesarah They’re trying to adapt the Tesla model of driving for you thing.
JonHmm. Hmm.
GeorgeNow you ask, is that going too far? No. And the reason why I say no is because The original motor vehicles that we had in, you know, Model T Ford land and everything, you look at those, compare what we are used to and think of as commonplace now, the people back then would have been, that’s too far.
MoHmm.
GeorgeYou don’t have to crank that engine up.
MoSeatbelts, who needs seatbelts?
GeorgeYou know, what what’s a windshield wiper, right? I mean, what’s a windshield even, you know?
JonWhere do you hook up the horse?
MoYeah, just just put your child out front.
GeorgeYeah. So I don’t think any of this is going too far.
MoHe’ll wipe the windows for you.
GeorgeI think it is just the next evolution in that technology for us. It’d be the same thing as, is this computer thing going too far? Is AI going too far?
MoHmm.
GeorgeI don’t think any of it is going too far.
MoOK.
GeorgeWhat goes too far is how human beings use it.
MoYeah.
JonOh, sure. yeah have Anything.
JonWell, I’m curious, given having a brand new car now, I have heard we have always been big fans of the connector phone, the Android Auto or the Apple CarPlay. I had heard there was a trend in a lot of automotive manufacturers to stop supporting that and have their own infotainment system that’s outside of that.
Mooh
JonWhat did what did you find in this new car? Are they still adopting that or they do something new?
MoOh, no, luckily it didn’t have that. Thank God. Uh, that would drive me crazy too.
JonOK.
MoActually it does.
JonMm hmm.
MoIt goes one step up, which actually I really like is that it’s wireless Android or Apple.
JonSure.
GeorgeMm hmm.
MoAnd it has a place. If you set your phone on it, it charges your phone.
GeorgeYeah, I’ve seen that in a few cars now, yeah.
JonOh, in the car. Yeah, yeah.
Moyeah You don’t have to plug it in. It’s just like when the way you call that the the charges do the back.
GeorgeThe cheese charging, yeah.
JonThe Qi charger is in one of the surfaces like a cup holder or somewhere you can lay your phone.
MoYes. Yep. You just put your phone in there and it charges your phone, which I’m like, okay, that counter is the two biggest problems, which is putting your phone in and you know, but does affect it.
JonYeah.
Jonyeah
MoAnd also because we, you know, we both have iPhones, you could switch which one controls it.
JonWhich sure. Yep.
GeorgeHmm.
MoSo you just say, oh, it’s Mo’s iPhone.
JonMakes sense.
MoNow let’s just, you know, let’s switch Amy’s iPhone and it’ll just switch back and forth. So that was pretty good.
JonOh, welcome to the future.
MoThat, I was like, oh, I like that. And it has USB-C ports like all over the place.
GeorgeYeah.
Moyeah So I was like, wow. I mean, I was actually surprised at some of the things that had, but you know, and as far as like driverless car, you know, I, I’m all for driverless cars one day because I know at some point I will no longer be able to drive.
Moand So I’m hoping by then we’ll have, you know, we’ll have like self-driving cars.
JonMaintain your your independence. Yeah.
MoI don’t need to call somebody else for a ride. Um, but, but yeah, I, I guess my, my concern is people becoming over-reliance on these things rather than their own senses. you know like using like don’t turn your head you know assume that assume that your car is going to warn you if there’s a car in your blind spot you know instead of turning your head and checking you know so I don’t know I guess that’s my only concern
JonOverreliance. It’s a risk.
GeorgeSo and this is an oversimplification of the argument, but, and it doesn’t have the real world consequences that what you’re talking about might, but you’re basically having our math teacher’s calculator argument.
GeorgeWhen we were in school, especially as old as we are, the math teachers would say, you’re not allowed to use a calculator because you’ll never know how to do math.
JonMm-hmm.
MoNo, right.
Georgebut now it’s not only a tool that’s allowed, it’s required in even elementary math classes these days.
MoAnd I have an issue with that.
Joneveryone else.
Georgeso So while we may believe that we benefited from using the calculator or not using the calculator so that we learned how to do math on our own, I’m sorry, but even as good as I am at math, doing math in my head,
JonHmm.
GeorgeThere is no question that the calculator or my phone’s calculator is a billion times more reliable and faster than me. So why not use it when it’s available?
GeorgeDoesn’t make any sense to me.
MoOh, no, I totally agree with you on that part.
GeorgeThat’s like.
Moif it’s If you have a tool available to make your life easier, you should use it. Absolutely. My only issue I have with the calculator argument is that, you know, I see kids that can’t tell you where eight times eight is.
GeorgeI don’t care.
MoI do. I think you need to know that stuff.
GeorgeI understand, but why? ah My point is, why does it matter if they have a device that can just as quickly let them know?
Mobut
GeorgeHere’s and here’s the other argument, right? Okay, so memorizing facts are trivia and everything.
MoHmm?
GeorgeA lot of kids don’t have that same memory because they have Google.
MoYeah, they have their phones. Yeah.
GeorgeSo are you going to say that they shouldn’t use Google? No, they absolutely should use Google because it’s another tool. I understand that we have a predisposition to keeping things the way that we learned how to do them, but I don’t think that’s right.
Moand i i I see.
GeorgeI think we have to evolve.
MoI disagree with your argument just because something in the past doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
GeorgeI didn’t say it was wrong.
MoBut, but, but, by but, but no, but I said that by but the virtue of maybe the way we learn math, I think learning, understanding how to do some basic math in your head and understanding how it works.
GeorgeI just said it’s evolved.
MoLike, so if you don’t understand how something works, then I have an issue with that. Like you need to understand. Now, once you understand it, use all the tools you want.
GeorgeOkay.
MoCause you know how it got that answer, but it’s like using AI right now. People just assume it’s right. Right. And without doing any one, two steps of digging to find out, you know, and that’s, and I think that’s a skill that we had to use as kids, right.
MoCause you didn’t have sources that readily available to find information. Like you had to go to two or three places to get information usually. Right.
JonMm hmm.
MoUm, and so I think that’s, I think that’s a problem that we don’t have the ability, like that we are too trusting in technology to do some thinking for us that some basic thing, I think we should be able to do ourselves some basic things that we should be able to do ourselves.
Georgesays the three old guys doing a podcast.
MoYeah.
GeorgeCome on.
MoYou know.
Georgelisp
JonYou know, the other thing my math teacher always told me that didn’t come true was, you can’t use a calculator because you’re not always just going to have a calculator in your pocket.
MoYeah, that’s true. That has changed. That has definitely changed.
JonAnd so there’re there’s there’s some merit there.
MoYeah, because it was a time you would not have a calculator your pocket all the time.
JonYeah. Of course. Yeah.
MoNot that far in the past either, actually. But anyway, yeah.
JonI guess my last follow up on your carmo is, so I have this movie with bad subtitles. Can your car take an SRT file?
Moone day it probably can you know but yeah but interesting you know and everyone out there if you guys have opinions on this like to hear it too i mean it’s an interesting topic and you know and i think there’s lots of lots of ways to cut this one so yeah that could be one absolutely
JonMaybe one day it will. Yeah. And um I’ll be over relying on it. My fault. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
GeorgeI feel like this is the debate. Gen X, like Gen X ability or ingenuity debate. That could be like one that we would do later on.
JonMm hmm. but i Here’s a preview. I’m going to moderate because I’m going to let you, I was far too entertained during that last section to want to be in the, into it.
JonI want to listen. Yeah, this is a good discussion. That’s why I didn’t cut you off. That was great, man. Okay. Thanks for the update on your new car and the fascinating discussion guys.
MoYeah.
JonStick around. We’ll be right back with some games.
GeorgeAlright, time to talk about games and unlike the last segment, we’ve all three got something to talk about here. However, ah I want to talk about something I was looking forward to just long enough to tell you guys I haven’t fucking played it.
GeorgeSo, I want to talk about Marvel Rivals.
JonWell, okay.
Mooh nice
JonThat should be great. Oh, yeah.
GeorgeThis is a game that I was looking forward to because it’s a free game that you can play through Steam or any other platform that it’s on. It is the Marvel universe with its characters and their abilities and everything in a five versus five format. So like those old tournament games and stuff that are very popular and whatnot, it’s graphically, it’s beautiful. It’s gorgeous. The characters are really fun and interesting.
Georgethey apparently have really cool backstories and I say apparently because my son was looking so forward to this that he was like on the pre-list thing or whatever to make sure he got it day one.
JonMm
GeorgeHis brothers for his birthday bought him like a hundred dollars worth of shit inside the game skins probably or something else and he has been playing it non-stop ever since and I’m glad he’s having a good time.
Jonhmm.
JonOh wow.
MoOh wow.
GeorgeI watched over his shoulder for four and a half minutes and realized there’s no fucking way I should be playing this game.
JonWhy?
MoWhy?
GeorgeIt is too fast for my brain.
Jonwhat’s What’s wrong with it?
GeorgeI watched him play and I know it was intuitive to him. Like he could just do it with no problem whatsoever. Fingers flying across the keyboard and mouse. Like it was just, you know, built into his second nature, all muscle memory and reaction.
GeorgeI couldn’t understand what the hell I was looking at, let alone play this goddamn thing. And it dawned on me while I was watching him that as much as I love Marvel, as much as I was interested in seeing what they would do with the characters and their combining forces and things like that, as interested as I was in that, what I am no longer interested in is getting a headache playing a fucking video game.
MoI yeah ah hear you.
JonSo have you you watched him, have you actually tried it? Is there a possibility it just looks chaotic?
GeorgeNope.
JonNo, you actually tried it.
GeorgeNope. I have not tried it and I will not try it.
JonYou have not.
GeorgeNo. And I’m not going to.
JonBecause the old ways are better.
GeorgeI have no, it’s because I observed it and I didn’t want to do it.
JonWe just had this discussion in the last segment. Maybe the new ways are okay.
GeorgeNow I’m saying for my son and and the kids that he’s playing with, I’m happy that they love it.
JonUh-huh, yeah.
GeorgeSo I’m still good with them doing something with it.
JonAll right, sure.
GeorgeIt’s just not for me. Like I still do math in my head because I’m good at it, but I don’t begrudge them using a calculator all the time.
JonOK, I mean.
GeorgeI, I just, I couldn’t, I know that it would frustrate me. I definitely would get a headache because I was getting one just watching him.
JonHmm.
GeorgeAnd I think that games like that are definitely developed for people with faster, quick twitch reactions and younger brains because older brains just, they’re slower. It’s that simple.
JonHm.
Georgeah I think it’s beautiful. I love that. They love it. I will not be playing it just because I don’t think I can handle it. I think I’m not capable, but same way you’re not going to see me going out for an NFL football team.
GeorgeI like watching football. I’m not getting out there with them big sum bitches because they’re all younger and stronger and faster than I am.
JonYep.
JonSo Mo, George would like to rescind his looking forward to from last time. He’s no longer looking forward to this game.
GeorgeI have looked forward to it and now I’m done, but
JonFor him, for himself.
JonI’m done looking looking back at it. All done.
Georgeon our Discord server, somebody posed a ah question that I wanted to bring out and just we’ll get some feedback from the listener. So I’ll just mention it really briefly. like ah A long time ago, I did this humble bundle series where I went through all of these games in a bundle and I did one game on each podcast and it took like a year almost to go through them all.
JonMm hmm.
Moyeah i remember
GeorgeAnd I went through whether they were good.
JonDid you like A through Z or something or.
GeorgeNo, it yeah, I did like an A through Z thing and stuff, but
JonNo. Something like yeah I remember, yeah.
GeorgeUm, and I went through and said whether the games were interesting to me or not, and how much they cost in the bundle and what the real value was and compared to all that stuff.
JonMm hmm. Yep.
GeorgePeople are asking for that same kind of thing again, but this time on like a single bundle.
JonHmm.
GeorgeAnd I kind of want to know how people would like to hear that or if they would like to hear it.
MoYeah, I remember
GeorgeCause it’s just a few people on our discord server, jnxgrownup.com slash discord. However,
JonHmm, zing!
GeorgeIf, uh, there are more people that are interested in it, I might consider doing it either on a bundle I’ve already, uh, bought that is, you know, no longer available because there’s no point in trying to do one while it’s available.
GeorgeCause they only last for a couple of weeks and then they’re gone.
JonIt’ll be gone by you get to episode two, sure, yeah.
Moyeah
GeorgeYeah. Um, but if people are out there interested in it, right into a podcast at genics, runup.com and let me know. ah what you would be interested in seeing if there’s a particular bundle maybe that you would like me to give a try to. I’ll play each one of the games and see what I think of them and do all the statistics and the analysis and everything if people are interested.
JonCool. I enjoyed it, so I hope you do.
GeorgeYeah, we’ll see. Mo, you look like you want to go talk to Mr.
MoYeah.
GeorgeTolkien though with your game.
MoOh, yeah, it was ah actually there’s a game that was free on Epic for a while. um That’s where I grabbed it from is one of the free games that they do you know periodically every week or so they drop another free game.
Georgehe
MoIt was called Return to Moria. And it’s a first person, not first, third person, like survival. outdoor kind of game where you’re basically a dwarf that’s trapped inside the mountain.
JonOkay.
MoAnd you basically have to craft things and build your camp and protect yourselves because they occasionally goblins will attack you randomly and destroy everything you own, which happened.
GeorgeMm hmm. Hmm.
Moum But it has a neat little story around it. And, you know, again, it was free. So I was like, yeah, let me give it a shot. um It was entertaining. Some of these some of these survival games get a little tedious to me sometimes.
Moif that you know i mean like like you know How many times do I have to go mine this one thing?
GeorgeOkay.
Moand you know How many times do I have to go this one thing? They did a pretty good job of keeping that balance where you don’t have to constantly… like There’s usually stuff near enough to you that you can just get it and play you know move on with the game.
MoPlus, there’s a story behind it, which is nice I think is kind of cool too. so it’s not just So as you progress and as you build your base or camp up, the next part of the story kind of unlocks. So you kind of move on to the next phase of the story, which is one way I think of keeping people interested rather than, you know, like some of the, vet like the zombie ones where you have to build a camp and the zombies attack every day.
MoBut that’s really the whole game, right?
JonMm-hmm, right.
MoThere’s no end to it. Where’s this one? It seems like there would be an end at some point.
JonWhat?
MoOh, sorry.
JonSorry.
MoThat’s all right. So, but yeah, so it’s so,
JonI just thought you were pausing about the jumping to something and it got really long. I’m like, oh, we’re done.
MoYeah, no worries.
JonSorry, okay.
MoSo, um, but yeah, but to me, it it was entertaining. Really nice graphics for free. It’s kind of hard to complain too much. So, you know, definitely if you’d like that solid game, I would definitely recommend it.
GeorgeSure.
JonYeah.
JonOkay. What was it called? Return to Moria.
MoReturn to Moria.
JonReturn to Moria. Okay.
MoYep. I mean, you, John, you’re playing it. Actually, that’s like a super late release game, isn’t it?
Jonyeah Very current. A brand new game. So I’d heard about this one coming out for a while and it’s on every platform and it’s getting nine out of 10 across the board. Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.
MoHmm.
JonNow, this is a compelling game. i was I was watching trailers for a long time and this thing just looks gorgeous. More important than how it looks is that the reviewers I was watching talk about how this adventure is like on caliber with some of the best Indiana Jones movies in terms of storytelling and the the mystery that you’re solving and the characters and that kind of thing.
MoOh, OK.
JonAnd so I was of two minds. Like I was super eager to play this game, but the base edition, $69.99.
MoOh, that’s the base.
GeorgeOof.
JonI mean, it’s super expensive. However,
Moso Yeah.
Jonthe base game, right? They’re not the super duper or anything, no. Well, it’s just cause it’s like a quadruple A title at this point.
GeorgeMmhmm.
JonIt has licensing and it has, it’s impeccable. But anyway, but what happened was I’m always keeping an eye out. Look, it just launched a couple of weeks ago and I’m like, well, let’s see what, usually there’ll be, somebody has it for 10% off or 15% on launch day.
JonI’m like, I don’t want to spend 70. I don’t even want to spend 60, but let’s see what’s possible.
MoYeah.
JonAnd I went looking and I tapped the login one afternoon to isthereanydeal.com. And I looked and I searched for it and it said, well, 69, 69, 69, 65, 65, zero at Humble Bundle.
JonLike, what, what? Zero?
MoHuh?
JonZero? So I clicked on it and I went over there and sure enough, it said, if you will link your Steam account to Humble Bundle, you will get a key for this game for free.
MoWhoa!
JonSo not only did I do it immediately, I got my key, I turned around and I’m like,
Georgeyeah
JonI blasted on our discord server. She had Xcode up.com slash discord. And I told people there, here’s the link to go do it. I messaged a couple of friends. Hey, it’s free right now. Go do it. No sooner than I did that, I started getting word back dead link doesn’t work.
JonWhat’s going on? like
MoUh-oh.
JonSo I did a search on Reddit. Yeah. Humble Bundle screwed the pooch.
GeorgeMmm.
MoOh, no.
JonThey should not have done that. And many people said, yeah, I clicked. It worked for me for a second, but the key never came in and then it’s out of the store. I, however, got in on the bleeding edge.
JonAnd so I did have a free key and I downloaded it and I installed it. And I started playing Indiana Jones at the Great Circle for free.
MoNice.
JonHere’s what I’ll tell you about this game. Gorgeous. The guy they have voicing Harrison Ford’s Indiana Jones, it’s, I mean, 90%. It’s so close to a young Harrison Ford doing kind of, he’s doing kind of a little oppression, I guess. The opening, the tutorial of the game is Raiders of the Lost Ark.
MoOh sweet.
JonIt starts on the Paramount Mountain.
GeorgeOh.
MoNice.
JonAndy’s back walks away from you, right? Now it’s a little extended. You’re going through the jungle jungle. He finds the dart and the tree and he, you know, oh, his how long since he’s been here, he’s down by the waterfront.
Mohuh
GeorgeRight.
JonThe guy cocks his pistol and he turns around and whips the gun out of his hand with a whip.
Moah Nice.
JonI’m like, this is gorgeous. It made me feel like Indiana Jones. It felt like a movie. my graphic settings were kind of struggling. I’m like, I’ll tell you what I’m gonna do. This is amazing. I’m gonna quit out of it, change my graphic settings, try it again.
JonI closed the game and a pop-up appeared. A game in your library has been removed because the rights holders did not have the authority to grant you this key.
GeorgeUgh.
JonIf you believe you’ve reached this recording and error or whatever talk to whoever you got the key from, they were able to reverse that key. So,
Mothat sucks.
JonHere are the two or three or five things I’ve learned from this situation. One is the Indiana Jones and the Great Circle game is amazing. When it comes down in price, I’m talking like a $25, I think it’s worth the 50, but 25 bucks, I’ll get it. Like I’m not waiting for the $5 a day. it’s It’s really, really good. I got a good t teaser, a taste of it. The other thing I learned that I didn’t know is that When you buy a key from someone, it can be rescinded if, you know, maybe they got those keys illegally and we’re selling them or giving them away.
GeorgeMm hmm.
MoWow, interesting.
JonIf they can identify them, they’ll get rid of them. But the third part of it that. is the first time it affected me tangibly is like, oh yeah, I know people are talking about digital rights versus physical media.
JonLike if someone had handed me a copy of the game at the store at the mall, they could not have broken in my house and taken it back from me.
MoYou’re taking it back, right?
JonI would own it. In this case, somebody somewhere was able to throw a switch and go, you didn’t do anything wrong, but somebody did.
GeorgeRight.
JonSo you’re no longer allowed the the license to play this game.
MoHmm.
JonAnd we know with DRM, You don’t own the game, you own the right to play it on the platform where you bought it.
MoRight.
JonSo, steam steam goes belly up tomorrow.
GeorgeRight.
JonYou know, you lose everything, theoretically, that’s connected to the internet. So, it was an interesting, I don’t know anybody else that even got a key. I must have been on the bleeding edge and just accidentally, I didn’t hear about it.
Jonit Let’s look and it just happened to be at the right time, but it’s weird, it’s weird.
MoInteresting.
JonAnd so, it makes me again wonder, I don’t have a lot of physical copies of some of my favorite games. Maybe I should start looking for those.
MoHmm.
Jonyeah I mean, not that I’m paranoid about big companies blowing up. i’ll you know I’ll be dead before Google is. I’m not worried about that, but little things like this can happen.
MoYeah, and so you actually physically still have installed in your system, you just can’t play it.
JonThat’s right, but it won’t play. Yeah, there’s 120 gigs or whatever sitting on my drive, but it’s just waiting for a license, yeah.
MoOh, my God.
GeorgeYeah, there’s a problem with one thing you talked about there. You said, I want to go get physical copies of my favorite games. I don’t think that’s possible.
MoYeah.
Jona lot of them are.
GeorgeHow many physical copies of PC games are out there?
JonYeah.
GeorgeNot only just for new quadruple A titles, like you’re talking about here, but what about the independent games you love like limbo and stuff?
Jonyeah Yeah.
GeorgeThey might have a physical copy for switch or something like that, but for PC, I don’t think they have that kind of stuff anymore.
JonYeah.
MoYeah.
JonAnd even
JonAnd even then maybe it might just be one of those like novelty releases from limited run games. It was like, Hey, you guys, you loved this particular, you know, little indie game.
GeorgeSure.
JonWe’re going to print, you know, 5,000 of them. And then it’s not like a actual release.
MoRight.
JonIt’s just like a collectible more than anything.
GeorgeI think the only thing we’re going to be able to do is somebody’s going to have to revive, you know, game cracking culture, crack steam or something like that so that people could have their own independent of steam gaming platform to play these games through.
Moc
JonYeah.
GeorgeBecause like Mo pointed out, you have the executable downloaded on your system. It’s just that it needs the steam launcher to actually activate somebody somewhere is probably already working on it.
JonThat’s right.
GeorgeIf not, somebody’s already got it figured out or somebody will figure out how to make that executable.
Moyeah
JonYeah.
Georgerun without being tied into steam.
JonYeah.
GeorgeThat’s the only way we’re going to get away from this, at least in the PC world.
MoYeah.
JonAnd I’m no longer really interested in game piracy like I was when I was an Amiga user, an Atari user in the 80s and 90s.
GeorgeRight.
JonIt’s frankly, they’ve they’ve done what iTunes did. They made it more convenient to buy the game for cheap than it is to mess around with pirating it.
MoYeah.
GeorgeRight.
JonThe problem here is I did buy it. I acquired a license legally. And it’s almost like, hey, pirates, I don’t wanna be in your camp, but I would like you to fix this one game on my hard drive because I i i feel like I actually earned it.
JonI went through the appropriate steps, but Yeah. I haven’t heard anybody else that happening too, but the takeaway Indiana Jones and the great circle is great. And maybe I’ll talk about it in six months when it’s on sale and I actually get to play it. So, all right. Stick around. We’ll be right back.
JonComing in the back end of the show, this is the part where we like to take a moment to talk about the things we’re looking at now, or looking forward to between now and the next time we get together. And I’d like to start with you, Mo. What do you have on the horizon?
MoSure. ah Looking forward to a movie, Nosferatu. It’s coming out Christmas Day.
JonMm-hmm.
MoIt’s a another vampire, but I think it’s along the same lines as the original movie, just a lot more updated.
JonYep.
Moum Got some great actors in it, like Bill Skarsgard’s in it. Nicholas Holt’s in it. I mean, a bunch of great actors. Looks creepy. um yeah I’m definitely all in on that one. Good Christmas Day release movie.
MoYeah, let’s talk about vampires.
JonYep.
MoThe second thing is ah the rig, a TV series that came out about a couple of years ago that I thought was over, actually.
JonIt’s the season.
MoIt turns out it’s not. It’s about an oil rig that gets surrounded by like this fog and they’re basically cut off from everything. It’s like some weird supernatural thing and they
GeorgeI think I might have talked about it on the podcast at the time.
MoYeah, it was well back.
JonReally? Huh.
MoIt was a long time ago. Like I said, I thought I thought was done and over with new seasons coming out the second of January, second season starting. So looking forward to that.
JonHmm.
MoOf course, I’m going to have to rewatch the first season again because it’s been so long. I’m not sure I got to do it.
JonIt’s been so Don’t know.
MoThe last thing I’m looking forward to is a movie called 2073. I don’t know if you guys heard of this. It’s coming out ah the 27th and basically it’s a, it’s, it’s a fictional movie.
MoIt’s like dystopian future, right? The year is 2073. All this stuff is bad. And it’s a person who’s going through trying to figure out how they got there. And they’re going back to things that are happening today to show how it got to that point.
Georgeah
JonLike, Oh, like, like not time travel, like jumping back in time to see the scene.
MoNo, like memories, kind of, I just think like, like, Oh, when this thing happened here, and then when this country did it up, because they you see the timeout, like, you know, 80% of the world’s governments are now total, you know, totalitarian, you know, and and stuff like that.
JonOh, I got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Hmm. Interesting.
Moyou’ Like, how do we get here?
GeorgeAnd the other 20% or Taco Bell.
MoYeah, exactly.
Jonah
MoYeah, yeah, yeah. The um
JonWelcome to idiocracy to.
MoAnd essentially because the person who directed it actually has won like ah an Oscar for like documentaries that they’ve done. So it’s kind of like a fictional documentary kind of style to it.
JonHmm.
MoIt just looks very intriguing. So I’m looking forward to that.
JonHmm, all right, nice.
MoSo how about you, John?
Jonah A few things, of course. I’ve yet to see werewolves that I’m very excited about and talked about last time, but now coming January 17th is another one called Wolfman.
MoOh, geez.
GeorgeOh, yeah.
JonIt’s another, um look, lycanthropy stuff that came out of like cryptids and, you know, I love that stuff. You know, I’m gonna watch that garbage. I’m gonna, One that’s not about any kind of cryptids come in January 9th on Netflix.
JonOh, there’s Wolfman’s at the theater. I don’t think I said that. January 9th on Netflix, American Primeval. So this is a series, takes place in 1857.
MoWhat’s that?
JonAnd it’s it’s just the brutality of the American frontier.
GeorgeOkay.
JonIt’s like, it’s a Western timeframe.
GeorgeAh.
JonIt doesn’t look like a Western. It’s just, you know, it’s not Cowboys and Indians looking kind of show. It’s like a grittier kind of like, ah crime and murder and stuff is happening, so this prime evil and early America.
GeorgeCool.
JonThe trailer looked good, so I’m gonna give it a shot. Don’t know if it’s for me or not, but I wanna find out. The thing I’m most looking forward to is I will once again have the opportunity to be out at the Consumer Electronics Show.
MoSweet.
JonThe 2025 CES is gonna be the first, second week of January. I’ll be there January 7th and 8th. at the My Arcade booth in the electronics and gaming section. And I was there last year I’ve got to meet a lot of people. If you are at CES, stop by. i’ll beit I’ll be standing at the booth for two full days. And plus it’s a chance to get an early look at a lot of the cool things that My Arcade is coming out with. And I’ve had a couple of calls with my guy there and there is a lot of cool stuff getting announced at CES this year. So I’m excited to be at at the release, at the spot where it’s happening. I’ll be able to share it with our YouTube viewers. George, how about you? What do you got coming up?
Georgeah Well, I’ve got a ah triple of television shows in their sophomore season. So first one up, a Squid Game season two, the day that this podcast drops on December 26th over on Netflix.
JonOkay.
MoMm hmm.
GeorgeI’m looking forward to that. Mo already mentioned the rig season two over on Amazon January 2nd. I love the first season. Definitely looking forward to this one. But the thing I’m looking forward to the most was kind of a show that just came out of left field last year called The Recruit.
GeorgeAnd this is on Netflix. It’ll be January 3rd when it releases for season two. This is the one about the, um, it’s kind of like, oh, it’s not really workplace comedy.
GeorgeIt’s like comedy action, I guess, but it’s a guy who’s a lawyer that kind of gets recruited by the CIA to become almost a lawyer field agent kind of guy.
JonOh, you did talk about that.
GeorgeAnd.
JonYeah. Yeah.
GeorgeYeah, he’s super intelligent, but he gets into situations that he is way under qualified to deal with.
JonMm hmm.
GeorgeAnd it was a very fun, like kind of midwinter break series, which now that a lot of the shows that I love that popped out in the fall are taking their winter break hiatus, things like the rig and squid game and recruit will ah fill in those gaps for me.
GeorgeSo I have new entertainment to keep me going until my stuff pops back in, in the springtime.
JonMmhmm. That’s nice to have those things staggered like that, isn’t it?
MoYeah.
Jonwell And plus there’s the ones that you guys just gave me, the the movie most movie in Georgia series, I got that coming into watch too.
GeorgeYeah.
MoYeah.
Jonah Yeah, a lot of good stuff going into into holidays. Before we leave you for this episode, as I always like to do during the show, I want to thank a couple more brand new Patreon supporters.
JonThese are folks who listen to the show, watch us on YouTube, but they decided that they want to support what we do financially with a regular monthly pledge. I want to thank Love this. BachBach2000 and Two more patrons that joined us just in the last few weeks. Look, all they had to do was go over to genexgrownup.com slash Patreon. You sign in for an account. You pick a level for as little as a dollar a month. You can join BachBach and Arrow and so many others who i have become
Jonpart of the lifeblood of this show and our YouTube, they continue to support us and make what we do possible. So we thank you guys. And we thank everyone that is one of our supporters over on Patreon means the world to us. Now, that is going to wrap it up for this edition of the show. But don’t worry, we’re going to be back in the new year with a new one. And next week is a backtrack edition of our show. We pick a single nostalgic topic and dig in deep. George, would you do the honors and let the fourth listener know what’s coming up next week?
GeorgeAbsolutely. Whether you’re an intruder or an evil smiley face, you’re really going to enjoy this episode. We’re going to be talking about the classic seminal video game berserk had its hit run in the arcades.
GeorgeDefinitely was a favorite on the Atari 2600 back in the day.
Jonwho
GeorgeAnd we’re going to dig in deep and talk all about it next week.
Jonand georgia the run alert into will You’re not going to want to miss that one. I think it’s going to be fun. Until then, I am John George. Thank you so much for being here, man.
GeorgeYes, sir.
JonMo, you know, I appreciate you.
MoAlways fun then.
JonFourth listener is you. We all appreciate most of all, though, and we and we can’t wait to talk to you again next time. Bye bye.
GeorgeSee you guys.
MoTake care, everybody.
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Mo As someone who barely manages to squeeze in as a GenXer my memories include more of the 70's than those younger GenXers. Reading and movies are my passions with some video gaming thrown in there for good measure!

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