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We head to the theatre for the new horror film set in 1936 Mississippi, spend some quality time with a popular ’80s console, and play a comedy adventure game full of puzzles, challenges, and charm!

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Jon Welcome back Gen X Grown Up Podcast listener to this episode 191 of the Gen X Grown Up Podcast.
Jon Mo always laughs.
Mo it It just seems like a big number every time.
Jon Big numbers scare him. It is a big number. I am John. I’m um John.
Mo Introduce us. yeah
Jon Joining me as always, of course, is George. Hey, man.
George Hey, how’s it going guys?
Jon You know, it’s not a show without Mo. Mo, how doing?
Mo Hey, how’s it going, everybody?
Jon ah In this episode, we head to the theater for the new horror film set in 1936 Mississippi, spend some quality time with a popular 1980s console, and play a comedy adventure game full of puzzles, challenges, and charm.
Jon Those topics and many more coming your way in this episode. First, though, it is time for some fourth listener email. Look, the three of us are here. Several of us tend to listen on occasion. But and if anyone else takes the time to listen and drops us a line to tell us about it, you are our fourth listener. And the fourth listener this time around is Jimmy.
Jon Subject line of Jimmy’s email is Gen X Handheld Electronic Games.
Mo Hmm.
Jon Topic near and dear to all of our hearts. Let’s see. Jimmy says, I was big on these games. I have recollected the ones I had as a kid with the boxes. I loved all my Tomy games and the few others I had before I got the Atari VCS.
Jon Now, most of them do not work now because the gears inside either get stripped or cracked, but I have them for the memories. Yeah. A lot of electromechanicals, that’s the trick.
Mo Yeah.
Jon It’s like the pure electrical, not too bad, but the ones that have the gears and the wires and the rubber bands that over time just, yeah, they die.
George Right, yeah.
Mo Just just just die. Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But nice to have, certainly. ah
Jon Jimmy goes on to say, I noticed that Tomy seemed to be the king of these types of games. They were. The ones that I had were Blip. Awesome.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Digital Derby. Hit and Missile, one that I’m still dying to see because I’ve never seen in the flesh. I want to see it. And Compu Bowl, one I don’t even know.
Mo Copybolt. Yeah.
Jon Sounds like bowling. Yeah. um It says, I also had red line electronic drag racing and Coleco’s electronic quarterback. To this day, when I go thrifting or antique shopping, when I come across an electronic quarterback, I always look at the battery compartment in case my name is scratched into it.
Jon ah
Mo Would that be something?
Jon Oh, that wouldn’t that be great to find your original one? Oh, it’s crazy.
George yeah Right.
Mo It says it’s $3,000.
George That’s mine.
Mo Good. Oh,
George You’ve got stolen property. Give me my shit.
Jon Call the police. I’m not paying you $8 that. It says, by the way, I’m now into 2022. He’s been working his way through the catalog, so he’s getting there.
Mo good
Jon Just finished the top 1080 soundtracks and noticed my favorite did not make the list. My pick would have been a heavy metal soundtrack.
Mo oh okay
Jon All right. Yeah. I do not know if the movie would have been as good as it was without the pumping music throughout the movie.
Mo Yeah, i can see that.
Jon It’s been a while since I saw heavy metal, but it was like it’s like it basically was heavy metal. It was driving rock music throughout that thing, wasn’t it?
Mo Yeah. Oh, big time.
George Yeah, it was solid soundtrack. It’s not that it wasn’t a good one. It just, I don’t think it was as good as the 10 we put up.
Mo it I agree.
Jon Didn’t make the top 10.
Mo Yeah, i agree.
Jon There you go. There you go. ah He wraps it up saying, keep up the good work, Jimmy. We’ll definitely try, Jimmy.
Mo Awesome.
Jon We appreciate you.
Mo see
Jon We love that you listened and took the time to write in. Look, fourth listener, if you would like your email featured here on the show, it is drop dead easy. all you have to do is fire off an email to podcast at genxgrownup.com. We read every single one and most of them, just like Jimmy’s, will eventually make the show.
Jon All right. With that good business in the rear view mirror, it’s time to jump into the body of episode 191 after this very quick break.
Jon 191 episodes in. We’re starting the same way. and Jumping into media, talking about the things we have been watching since we last spoke. Now, this could be a television or film or books or comics or musical, whatever.
Jon And Mo, want to start with you. What have you been checking out?
Mo Sure. ah I’m not going to bury the lead here. This was probably one of the best movies I’ve seen this year, and it was Sinner.
Jon Okay. Sinners. Okay, got it.
Mo Yep, Sinners. You know, I saw the preview for it. i was like, okay, Michael B. Jordan playing two roles. All right, whatever.
Jon Interesting.
Mo You know seen that before, right?
Jon Hmm.
Mo Twin Brothers. um Set in South. I’m all right, whatever. Vampires. i’m like, whoa, what? Huh? vampires. um And it is, is an amazingly good movie.
Mo um Michael B. Jordan just knocks out of the park. He plays his two brothers, but when they’re separate, you know exactly which brother it is, even though they look the same. Cause he just played them so differently. Like you knew, Oh, that’s brother. This and that’s for this, you just knew just from as soon as he started talking.
Mo um And the basic premise, and this is not giving anything away because of the trailer Him and his brother, they went up north from Mississippi. They kind of got involved with some gangs like that, but they moved back and they were trying to open a speakeasy.
Mo That’s basically what it comes down to. you
George So this is in the or then. Gotcha. With vampires. Yeah.
Mo The 20s or 30s, yeah. Definitely, I think Prohibition, I think, was still kind of a deal back then.
George gotcha
Mo so they ah And so they’re going around and basically they’re gathering, you know but especially back then, you had to have good music yeah if you wanted to draw people in. So they’re bringing in like their cousin and this other guy who plays her harmonica.
Mo i mean But they’re all like phenomenally good blues.
Jon It’s the Blues Brothers! They’re getting the band back together!
Mo yeah Yeah, exactly. um Yeah, exactly.
George with vampires
Jon well get them
Mo Yeah.
Jon vampire band together. Right.
Mo And um i don’t know you guys ever saw the TV show Rogue Heroes about the SAS, the forming of the SAS. ah
George no
Mo If you haven’t, you absolutely should. It was really good. But the person who’s in that, actually, he’s in this one. He’s the head vampire, and he’s Irish. like thick Irish accent, all this stuff.
George ah
Mo And I don’t want to give a put too much a away in this because it’s just that good a movie. I think you just want to experience it. But essentially, he’s just trying to, you know, he’s trying to take over this, you know, basically he’s trying to get everybody.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo But days basically it’s because of the music is really what comes down to. Like that kind of withdraws him there.
Jon Hmm. So I have heard a lot of buzz about this movie.
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jon ah And again, I and wasn’t really interested. And then the review started coming out. I’m like, oh, now I got to pay attention to it because I just thought it was another random horror movie thrown early in the year that just to bury it.
Mo Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yep.
Jon So what I’ve heard, and I just want to ask you again, no spoiler territory. I haven’t seen it, so I can’t spoil it.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And I don’t want you when you ask answer. But what I’ve heard is very interesting is people have said it’s almost like two standalone movies. Like first there’s this period piece about music in the South and then like it takes a turn midway and then kind of becomes a vampire movie.
Mo Sort of, kind of, yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo um But the thing is, the music still is in there.
Jon Interesting.
Mo Like, throughout the whole… Music is part of the whole thing.
Jon Throughout. Okay.
Mo ah Even to the last scene.
Jon All right.
Mo you know, every single part. So it definitely feels… But the vampire… And then the way they wove it in… At first, I was like, how is this going to work? it It totally fits. Like, you’re it’s so easy to suspend disbelief and just go with it.
Mo Because the way it’s written, it’s just so well written.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And it’s not like, you know… you know, Cape Dracula kind of person. I mean, you know what I mean? It’s like a very different thing and his motivations for doing it very weird, unusual, but you kind of get it um and one of the things I, there’s couple things I really like about this movie. One, it’s an original movie.
Mo Like, the idea the premise even though vampires not that big a deal know you know there’s a couple other vampires think over club kind of things but when you see this movie it won’t remind you of any other movie really it looks like it’s it’s a brand new thing and so after I read after I saw the movie he purposely said this movie has a beginning and it ends like there’s not gonna be a sequel this is one story he says this is it I’m telling the whole story right here
Jon Well, depends on how much money it makes.
George Well…
Mo it’s It’s making a ton. he’s stick So far, he’s sticking by his guns, the guy. Because basically, he he’s done so many successful movies now also. He could he you already write his own ticket, pretty much.
George Well, and this was made by ah team, right?
Jon I guess.
George So Ryan Coogler directs this, and Ryan Coogler and he worked together on Black Panther on the original one.
Mo Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Right.
George These guys have been tied to each other in the way that other directors and actors like Scorsese and DiCaprio or De Niro, right?
Jon Yep.
Mo Right. Right.
Jon Mm hmm.
George ah So those two guys, if you don’t get them on board, you can do a sequel, but it’s going to be you know crappy and shitty and people are going to shit all over it.
Mo going awful.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George So if you don’t get those two guys’ buy-ins, you won’t get a real sequel to this.
Mo Yeah. And it’d be tough to actually do a sequel because like said, the way it ends, you’re like, okay, I saw the whole story. Like you feel like I saw a whole story and you you you leave feeling very satisfied.
Mo You know i mean? Like, okay, this movie took a beginning and it ends.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Awesome. You know? So I can’t recommend it.
Jon Yeah.
Mo And it’s definitely one I would definitely say see in the theater if nothing else, just because the music is so good. um and the scenes in the speakeasy, the, debt I mean, it’s going hard to get that on your TV, you know, so just try to see it in the theater and and get that experience.
Jon Hmm. Good stereo sound.
Jon Wow.
George Might be hard to see it in the theater by the time this podcast comes out, because it’s been out in theaters for a while, and you know stuff doesn’t stay very long these days.
Jon Oh, maybe.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah, I know.
Mo That’s true these days.
Jon Yeah.
Mo It’s still doing pretty well in the theaters though. So, you know, but yeah, you’re right though, George, like you said, the time you hear this, if you if it’s still out there, maybe it’s only in the one theater now, but you know, definitely get a chance go see it.
Jon Yeah. Right. You know what’s interesting I’ve noticed is that now, yeah, movies come to streaming, but sometimes they’ll stick in the theater for a while, even though they’re in streaming.
Mo Yeah.
Jon but Like you said, Mo, there’s just in one theater, maybe two shows a day, but they’ll stick around just to try to milk you for a little more ticket money.
Mo Yeah. and it was one of the few movies I saw recently. The theater was full. I was like, whoa.
Jon Oh, good for them.
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo I was like, wow. And I saw this like two weeks in. I was like, holy cow, this movie is still full.
Jon That’s great.
Mo That’s pretty awesome.
Jon Yep. Love it.
Mo So there’s so sinners. I definitely see it. So, ah yep.
Jon I’m going to.
Mo John, what do you got for us?
Jon Oh, man. So this is a topic that I have been fascinated by forever. I didn’t know they were making a film about it, but when they did, I’m like, I’m automatically going to be there. So the film is called The Luckiest Man in America.
Mo Okay.
Jon Now, I don’t remember. We might have spoken about this a little bit. We might have spoken about this a little bit back when we talked about ah game shows. We had a backtrack about game shows.
Jon But the film is all about, I see George nodding, which you can’t hear on the podcast, but it’s all about Michael Larson, who in 1984 was accused of cheating on Press Your Luck because he just kept spinning.
George a
George I figured that’s what this was about.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Oh, yes.
George yeah
Mo Okay, i don’t shine about now. Yes.
Jon So the the story, the the top level story that this movie is based on is, yeah, this guy is a weird, nobody, kind of a, I call him a schlub maybe, just like and he’s kind of in trouble with the law once in a while and child support, i don’t know, all kinds of crazy things.
Mo that’s right.
Jon But he’s a super fan of Press Your Luck and he’s watched VHS tapes of it and he’s figured out the mechanical, talking about mechanical games a second ago in Jimmy’s email, he figured out the mechanical sequence of lights on the Press Your Luck board So when he made it on the show, he was able to just go and go and go and win like $100,000 or something.
Mo oh that’s right
George Yep.
Jon I forget. it was It was an insane amount. And the network was going apeshit about it. So I always found that story interesting. He was accused of cheating, is learning the system, cheating, all that.
Mo he
Jon They don’t even really dive into that that much. what they It’s really about the people. And the yeah the actor they got to play, Michael Larson, um I was talking to George a little bit before the show,
Jon one of my new favorite actors, Paul Walter Hauser. You might recognize him. He’s in, ah he’s in Cobra Kai. He was, he was Richard Jewell in that ah Clint Eastwood film about the Atlanta Olympic bombing.
Jon ah
Mo Oh, yeah.
Jon He, yeah, yeah.
Mo Okay. Okay.
Jon Who does he play in Cobra Kai, George? You mentioned his name.
George Stingray.
Jon Stingray, Stingray, yeah.
Mo Thank you.
George Yeah.
Jon He is, like, you look at him and you’re like, is he really an actor? Is he a movie star?
George Yeah.
Jon Because he’s just he just looks like ah kind of ah a heavyset, short, dumpy guy with a neck beard, but he is so talented that… I love him. Not for nothing, Walton Goggins, also in this film.
Jon a Great actor.
George e
Jon We’ve seen a lot of stuff lately. And what they really do is they follow… but We’ve all heard the story of what happened. So what you get to see in this this… It’s not a documentary. It’s like a docudrama, a dramatization of what happened.
Jon You follow this guy walking in, trying to get an audition on the show. But then you see the behind the scenes of the people losing their minds and trying to figure out what’s going on in the control room.
Jon And like the…
Mo How’s he doing this?
Jon Right. Like, what’s going on? Why is this happening? And they try to talk. Goggins is the yeah he plays the the host of the show. Like he’s like the.
Mo he
Jon the
George oh okay
Jon the Yeah. So he’s like the play hamming it up.
Mo MC, yeah.
Jon Like, yeah. Try to talk him into you’ cashing out and whatever. And he kind of nudges and tries. But he goes, no, going to keep on spinning. And they’re all losing their minds in the control room. And it’s just so fun to watch. there’s no footage of that, but they’re interpreting what might have happened. They’re imagining from the back end.
Jon So it’s this other side of a real life thing that you might not have ever, you would never have known what happened at the back end. So they kind of dramatize and let you see a little bit of what they believe was going on based on the stories.
Mo And if I’m correct, isn’t it because like the computers back then, they weren’t true random numbers, right?
Jon That’s right.
George There was, yeah, but there was no computer involved.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Like there was a certain patterns, right? Oh, there was no computer involved at all.
George There was no computer involved in Press Your Luck.
Jon Right.
Mo Oh, okay.
George So Press Your Luck was electromechanical, just like those ah consoles that we’re talking about in the and the fourth listener email.
Jon Yeah, blip and stuff.
George So those lights were all electrical and they were sequenced on a pattern that was electromechanical behind the screen. And the little windows that lit up to reveal the prize when you lit it, they were literally just like like ah the old… um kind of like the projectors that would flash through when we were in school and you would see one slide after another.
Mo right. Yeah. Interesting.
George So almost like a backlit slide inside of each one and they would just cycle.
Jon That’s right. Yeah, it’s whatever light was on behind there. And I won’t go into the whole story. Basically, he figured out, well, if I hit the button when I see this light up,
Mo Interesting.
Jon Even if he’s a little late, the next three after that are not bad news. Like they’re not a whammy.
George Right.
Jon It’s either spin again or win money or win a prize. But if he he hits the button after these two lights flash, he know knows he’s going to hit one of these three things. And they don’t even talk about that. They don’t talk about how he figured it out. They don’t talk about that. It’s literally the back end, the other side of the story you’ve never heard.
Mo Nice. Awesome.
Jon ah So I know we get a lot of of fourth listener email when we did that game show backtrack. And if you enjoy game shows and that era of game shows and I guess 80s, 80s, whatever, I really enjoyed this.
Jon Again, it’s not a documentary, but it feels like seeing the backside of a documentary fictionalized. I really enjoyed it. saw at the theater and I would recommend it. Luckiest Man in America.
Mo awesome
Jon You can see it probably streaming by now. You can probably check it out. All right, George, how about you round out this media segment? What have you been checking out?
George ah Yeah. So we went from fictional to docudrama to now straight documentary. Uh, I, um, I’m a huge, uh, Boston Celtics fan have been from when I was a young little kid, Larry Bird first came into the NBA in 79,
Jon There we go.
Mo and Okay. Mm-hmm.
George I always went with the Celtics over the Lakers because Celtics were East Coast and Lakers are West Coast. And, you know, there was a lot of propaganda going on, which I totally understand that I probably got sucked in by Larry Bird, you know, and all this, that and the other.
Jon Hmm.
Mo e
George This Celtics City documentary, which was um created and hosted on the streaming platform Max, which is owned by HBO, which, by the way, is the same group that put out ah the winning streak or whatever it was called, the one that was the docudrama for the Lakers side of this same story, right?
Jon Yes. You talked about that.
George um that, yeah, it was the docudrama.
Jon Right. remember on the show.
Mo Yeah, yeah. Oh,
Jon Yep.
George Now, that was centered specifically on the Magic Johnson era of Laker basketball.
Jon Okay. Okay.
George The Celtic City is the entire breadth of the Boston Celtics. So from the very first days of Red Auerbach first becoming the coach all the way through to today and the championship that they won last year, which was the 18th banner, which
Mo oh wow
Jon No.
George allowed them to now be the only franchise with that many championships in the history of professional sports in America. ah This documentary, it has like nine episodes, I think, or maybe 10 or something like that. But if you’re a Boston Celtics fan, you’re going to cry in almost every episode.
Jon he
George If you hate the Boston Celtics, you might gain a little bit of respect for the organization and the players because they go into a lot of not just what the basketball organization did and what the players did, but also society around the team and specifically the city of Boston.
George Because as we know, there’s a huge history of racial tension in Boston
Mo Yeah. Nice.
George um It’s been called at times the most um racist city in America and the least racist city in America, depending upon your viewpoint.
Mo yeah
George This documentary, it does a good job of telling those stories through the lens of sports.
Mo nice
Jon You know, I have a question for you, and I promise this is not a gotcha. You don’t have to have a good answer. But I’m very curious because you laid this out and you said, well, hey, if you’re a huge fan of the Celtics, you’re probably going tear up.
George Sure. Sure.
Jon If you’re not a huge fan of the Celtics, you’re going to learn something. Do you think there’s anything in this series for someone who just isn’t a fan of the sport at all? or are there are there Are there threads of this documentary series that are worthwhile to someone who doesn’t care about the sport or sports in general like me?
George yeah i I would hope that there’s this one thread and I’ll, I’ll just give a brief synopsis of it. So if you’re not a sports fan, you probably don’t really know the name of Bill Russell.
George If you’re a sports fan, especially a basketball sports fan, you will absolutely 100% know the name of Bill Russell.
Jon No.
George Mo probably knows because New York hates Bill Russell for a lot of different reasons.
Mo Oh, yeah. I mean, no, it’s a love-hate. you know yeah You have to miter the skill.
George Yeah. Um, But Bill Russell was not just a sports figure. but Bill Russell was a human rights activist figure.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George So he was instrumental in the whole Cassius Clay, Muhammad Ali era. um stuff that was going on, there was a meeting of top black sports athletes of the day.
George Jim Brown, Cassius Clay, and Bill Russell was one of those athletes at the time that all came together because they were they were really trying to advocate for the…
Jon OK.
George to abolish the human atrocities that America was still embroiled in, in the sixties and fifties.
Jon kind Oh,
George Now this man, Bell Russell, I’ll just give you just a little brief synopsis. Not only did he do that, but while he did that, he won like, I think it was seven championships in a row with the Boston Celtics.
Jon wow.
Mo yeah He was so far above everybody else.
George No other professional franchise has even come close to that.
Mo Yeah.
George Like even the Patriots who are the one in Kansas city right now, like if they get to three in a row, people lose their shit. The Celtics did seven. So let’s just put the bed to rest as to which is the most storied franchise in professional sports history in America.
George Okay. But at that same time, Red Auerbach retired as the coach and became the GM of the Celtics. And guess who became the coach for the next two championships?
George Bill Russell, player, coach.
Jon Your man came up? Okay. That’s cool.
George He did both. That’s unheard of. That has never really been done. Michael Jordan, even.
Jon Hmm.
George When Michael Jordan was a player in the NBA, he won those six titles with the Bulls.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah.
George And then when he retired and then came back a little bit later as a GM player of the Washington team, His record went from like 70% wins and 30% losses to 30% wins and 70% losses.
Mo Yeah, he was in a coach.
Jon but
George And that’s Michael Jordan.
Mo Yeah.
George So I would think that the Bill…
Jon He also excelled in the same way at baseball, didn’t he?
George Yeah, exactly.
Jon so Okay.
George i would ah I would think that the Bill Russell humanitarian thread would be good for anybody who’s not a sports fan.
Jon all right.
George It’s a great series. I highly recommend it.
Mo Thank
George I understand that’s a big grain of salt because I am a Boston Celtics fan.
Jon Right.
George But what I love is every episode starts off with a story being told by the modern day athletes. And then it goes back to the historical and it has a lot of ah interviews of the time of all the major players.
Jon I see.
George So you’ve got the John Havlich acts in there. You’ve got the Bill Russell’s in there. You’ve got Dave Cowens, who John, by the way, went to your alma mater, FSU became a Boston Celtic champion.
Jon Did he? and Okay.
Mo <unk>cc
George Yep.
Jon All right.
George So there’s a lot in there for everybody um to enjoy because the Celtics are a longstanding storied franchise of professional sports.
Jon Nice. Nice. Is it all wrapped up or is it still continuing?
George It is all wrapped up. I don’t see a way for there to be a season two because the last episode was all about the most recent championship win.
Jon Sure.
Mo Yeah.
George Now, if they win a championship this year, maybe they can do an addendum, but we’ll see.
Jon Got it.
Jon Right. Right. One more. Got it. Nice. All right. Thanks. Well, stick around. We’ll be right back.
Mo right, I’m going to kick off Tekken Toys today. So I, know, this is probably not unusual thing, but, ah you know, I work at home most of the time.
Mo So I have a desk and have a work laptop and I have a separate monitor that use.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo But it’s like I had the monitor propped up on literally on like a box to make it high enough.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo And, you know, and I had my extra keyboard.
Jon Yep.
Mo It was just a mess. So finally i said, OK, I’m going to go do something. And I went out and I bought… a laptop and monitor stand that mounts to your desk. You know it’s like the bar that comes up and has the two arms.
George Mm-hmm. Uh-huh.
Mo One holds your laptop, one holds your monitor.
Jon Oh, oh, like the arms and everything. Oh, we like the, like, robot-looking thing.
Mo Yeah.
George ah
Jon Yeah.
Mo And and i tell you the truth, the thing that prevented me from getting one before is I was like, oh, i want to spend that much money. I mean, that’s what’s going through my head. And I went to Amazon and they’re like 30 bucks, 40 bucks.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George Yep.
Mo i so I was shocked. I was like, holy crap.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo You know, bought one. It was, I’ll put the link in. It was by a company called Huanuo. don’t know. It’s a Chinese company.
Jon Easy for you to say.
Mo Yeah, um it’s made to hold a 30 inch monitor and you know as a standard laptop. And let me tell you, it went together fast. It’s super rock solid. I mean, this thing is just rock solid.
Mo I can move the monitor around, which is nice because it’s so I’m not um’m using it a workbench. I can just push everything back. um I’m just upset that it took me this long to buy it. Yeah.
Jon Go ahead. You had something like that. That’s why you’re going to jump in, right?
George Yeah.
Jon Yeah. Yeah, I’ll do it. Go ahead. I’ll do it first.
George So, Mo, I actually own that exact same mount.
Mo so really
George Yeah.
Jon Great minds.
George I bought it probably three, four years ago um for the other room in there, the studio.
Mo I wish I did.
George And then I changed it out for a different one that I have in there now. The only thing, and this one was susceptible to that as well, um that I don’t like about these things is the way the armature bins happen.
George Because if you want, if you decide to go with a two monitor setup, as opposed to what you did with the monitor and laptop, when you try and put the two monitors close together,
Mo Yeah.
George that bend in the elbow goes to the back. And if your desk is up against a wall, it doesn’t work.
Mo Oh, it won’t work.
George So that’s why it’s i I’ve had limited success with these.
Jon oh
George Now, the one I have in there now is one of these dual monitor ones, and my wife is using it, but because ah her and my mother work together a little bit on some of this stuff, the monitors don’t have to be right next to each other.
George But if you’re a person who likes the two monitors right next together, Just be prepared for that being a possible problem if your desk is up against a wall.
Mo ah Okay, there you go
Jon Yeah. Well, my question then can be for both of you, since you both have one or have had one at one time or the other.
Mo go.
Jon um So right now, so right now I have on my work desk here in the studio, I have like one of those tiny computers, of the little bookshelf computers, like zip tied to the back of a monitor.
Jon And I’ve often wondered, it wouldn’t be nice if I had the monitor, the whole thing assembly on an arm that I could move, you know, like a to get it out of the way.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Cause right now I slide it around the desk as you can imagine.
Mo Yeah.
Jon So ah ah you touched on this Mo, but I really want to dig in more and and and push you on it to understand. You say that the rock solid, you it stays put
Mo Yeah. Yeah.
Jon How difficult is it to adjust it and push it out of the way? How many elbows do you have to unscrew or loosen or tighten or whatever? So far if I want it here most of the time, but maybe 25% of the time I want an entirely different place, how much of a pain will it be for me to adjust back and forth like that?
Mo yeah
Mo ah As far as just like sliding it back and forth and even tilting it a little bit, that’s it. You could just do that anytime. Just grab the monitor and you could just adjust it, you know?
Jon Okay.
Mo So when I’m not using it for work, I just push it and just goes back as far as against the wall as I can. And then I’m fine, you know?
Jon Hmm. Yeah.
Mo um Now, if you want to tilt it a lot, there is a ah hex wrench that you have to loosen the thing if you want to like really tilt it.
Jon Okay. All right.
Mo But for like little adjustments, i don’t have to do anything for it. It’s just, it’s just, I just move it.
George Yeah, I think the place where you might have an issue, John, that’s all horizontal movement.
Jon Okay.
Jon Yeah.
George Vertical movement on these devices, it’s locked in on that central pole.
Jon I see.
Mo Yeah. Yeah.
Jon Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
George Yeah, and those arms don’t have powered gaskets to let you raise the monitor out of your way or lower it down.
Jon Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah.
George They don’t really do that. They’re solid, flat pieces that have a couple of joints in them usually.
Mo yeah
Jon So like you said, you know, it sounds like this is a good solution depending upon your environment. Like, so, right.
Mo yeah
George Right.
Jon if it’s up against a wall, you have to do this thing. It wasn’t right for George. if I have to move vertically, maybe it’s not right for me, but in most situation, just about a perfect fit.
Mo It was perfect.
Jon So it worked out.
Mo yeah it Yeah, it was totally perfect what I needed.
George right
Jon Okay.
Mo So, yeah.
Jon And for 30 bucks, can’t complain.
Mo you So that’s what I got. How about you, John? do you got for us today?
Jon You know, it’s going to start sounding not very surprising and it’s going to become very surprising. So when I say I’ve spent a little time over the past week playing with a vintage video game console.
Mo oh
Jon What else is new, John? Of course you’re playing with it, but it is something a little bit unique in that. So I work with a friend of mine who does design work for ah gadgets to modify your gaming.
George Thank
Jon He like he he makes ah like expanders for the paddles or he makes grips for controllers and stuff. And one of the projects he wanted to work on um was a controller refer refer was a controller refurb kit for nintendo entertainment system game pads.
Jon um And normally when he launches his stuff, he’s like, John, would you like to launch it on your YouTube channel?
Mo OK.
Jon Because have content. and And I love working with him. and like, sure, but I don’t have an NES. He’s like, you know what? I have a spare one that just I just refurbished and just got in good shape that I want to donate to you for all the help you’ve been giving me with my my Etsy store.
Jon So my buddy Paul shipped me an NES, Nintendo entered Entertainment System, two game pads, the control deck,
George Oh.
Mo Nice. Oh, sweet.
Jon but not just it, but also he has gone through it. He’s had it apart. He’s put a new cartridge slot in it. He put recapped it. What have you do to all these things? And it might surprise you to hear.
Jon This is the first in NES I have ever owned.
Mo Really?
Jon Never had not touched it. Right.
George Yeah, that that didn’t surprise me totally. We were all from the era where the Atari Television, ColecoVision were our consoles, and we kind of rode those because as we got a little bit older, maybe we weren’t doing those as much, and we moved into PCs when everybody else was starting out with Nintendo Entertainment Systems.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Yep.
Jon Exactly.
Mo Yeah,
Jon That’s right. Yeah.
Mo but the but the NES was super popular, though.
Jon i
Mo I mean,
Jon Of course. Oh, ridiculous.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
Mo yeah
Jon But I often called it my girlfriend’s little brother’s game system, right? Which is is both a way to think of it. And it literally was my exposure to it was my girlfriend’s little brother, right? I was in high school and I was, ah you know, I had a computer and but you know whatever I was playing with and PCs, like you said, I just never had a reason to buy an NES. I didn’t jump back in content.
Jon I didn’t jump back into consoles to the Super Nintendo. So this was my first ever NES.
Mo Hmm.
Jon So this is the first one I’ve had in my hands on the desk, plugged in. And it also, he sent it along with the combo Duck Hunt Super Mario Brothers game, which is the the typical prototypical game that you would have with NES.
Jon And like, I hooked it up really just to shoot some footage of me playing with. But after I got it hooked up, I sat here in the studio playing a whole bunch of Super Mario Brothers.
Jon Now, I’ve played Super Mario Brothers in emulation plenty.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Not that I like know it well, but if you’re going to emulate NES, you’re going to play Mario, right?
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon so But it really is true. People talk about it a lot, and you know and some people go, emulation is the same thing. There is just something about NES.
Jon sitting there in the physical box, there’s that hum of the electronics. There’s the, the fuzz of the TV, the, the, it has AV cables, but still even AV, it’s a little bit, you know, grainy. Cause it’s on a, you know, tuning into your television and having the real game pad in your hand.
Jon And I had more fun playing this was 30, 40 year old game. Now super Mario brothers.
Mo she
Jon I had more fun playing it the other day for an hour. than I’ve ever had with it before. And I credit that all to the fact that I was sitting with the real hardware in front of me. It was just a different kind of experience than emulating it. It really was.
George Yeah, they’re they’re super cool systems, and i think um the controller for the n NES doesn’t get enough credit. I really like i even have an 8-bit Doe replica controller that I can use for USB onto my system playing emulation.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Sure.
George But i I think my only NES experience was renting one from like a blockbuster type of video story.
Jon Oh, sure.
George wasn’t blockbuster the time, but that was what um where I got just a little bit.
Jon Yeah.
George And I remember the games, they were simple. They were not nearly as graphically advanced as the arcade was even at that point. but they were engrossing and mesmerizing.
Mo e
George And that pro wrestling game that was on the NES, to this day, that’s one of my favorite games.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo Hmm.
Jon yeah
Mo Just some curiosity. How did you hook up to your TV? Like, what did you use for that?
Jon So it has AV cables. It has one yellow and one red cable.
Mo Yeah.
Jon You just plug right into the AV.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah. So, I mean, you can hook it up like an old Atari with a RF tuner if you want, but it has AV cables as well. So that’s how i hooked it up.
Mo OK, awesome.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. like And it still is a little grainy even with that, but I think that’s part of the charm. It’s part of the reason they run filters and emulation to simulate a TV with bad tuning because it feels more like the real thing.
Jon Yeah, it looks great. so So thanks.
Mo That’s cool. Cool.
Jon um Thanks. Huge thanks to my buddy, Paul, for helping me out with that and filling a gap in my 80s arcade and console history that I just never had before. And it’s been fun to explore. So thank you to Paul.
Jon Awesome. Groovy.
George All right, time to talk about games a little bit more than what we just did in the last segment.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George And I’m going to start off today because I want John to go last because the game that he’s going to talk about is one he just recently did a live stream on and my wife watched it and she was kind of captivated by that game.
Mo she
Jon Okay.
Jon Oh.
George So we’ll get into that in just a minute.
Jon Sure.
George I’m going to start off with another one of these free games that I picked up through Amazon Prime, picking it up on Epic through the Prime free games. ah It’s called Shushell.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George I’m going to say it that way because it feels French to me when I play this game.
Mo Shushel.
Mo Shushel.
Jon ah does I was going to call a choochle. Mm-hmm.
George Yeah, i who knows? I don’t really know. This is the same company that built the game that I talked about in the last pod or the last episode that we did where it was called Bontacula.
George They come up with the weirdest fucking names for these games, but they’re deserving because the games themselves are very, very weird.
Mo she says
George Now… In that previous game, it was all about this little group of tree-dwelling creatures that had to go around and do different stuff on their tree because this bad entity was ah sucking the life out of their tree environment, right?
Jon Okay.
George In this game… It’s this little orange guy with a hat that looks like an acorn, kind of like a beret almost, which is why I think it’s French.
Mo Okay. Okay.
George But ah it’s him and his little green jelly bean of a pet that seems to be like a dog cat kind of thing. um And they are desperate to chase and I think eat a cherry.
Mo ah okay
George and Right, exactly. Okay, you know, it sounds like a very odd premise for a game. But what foils them getting the cherry every time is this giant monkey hand that comes down from the top of the screen, steals their cherry, and drags it off the screen, and then they go chasing after.
Mo what
George And so every screen that you approach is a problem-solving screen where you have to figure out how to get to the cherry Sometimes you have to click on certain creatures to make them sing. Sometimes you have to bounce on creatures’ heads.
George Sometimes you have to go inside creatures to get to your cherry.
Mo Huh.
George Uh, yeah, it’s, it’s very strange and beautiful in the same way.
Mo ah
George Bontacular or whatever the hell that name is of the last game that I talked about. This is a fun, distracting, play it for a little while, put it down type of game that you can come back to time and time again. And the reason why I keep wanting coming back to it is it’s just so goddamn charming because It’s, it makes me feel like the little girl in Despicable Me when she got the unicorn. It’s so fluffy. It just, it just makes me feel that way when I’m playing this game.
Jon You know, Mo, if I didn’t know better, would, from the description of this game, I would think that George has been experimenting with alcohol for the first time in his life.
Mo Hmm.
Jon Because it kind of sounds like a drunk situation.
George and Okay, it wouldn’t be…
Mo ah It did cross my mind. it did yeah it definitely seems. Yeah, you know.
George It wouldn’t be the first time, but…
Jon No, oh wouldn’t it be? Okay. Maybe the second is rare.
George yeah
Mo First time in a while.
Jon Because it sounds like a description is a monkey hand and there’s ah a grape as a pet and all this.
Mo Going inside the creatures.
Jon Yeah.
George And eight yeah it’s it is. It’s a very odd game, but this company seems to thrive on that. So…
Jon Mm-hmm.
George you can have a puzzling game. You can have a platforming game. you can have combinations of all these things, but they almost always seem derivative, right?
Jon Yeah, right.
George If it’s a puzzle game, there’s going to be shit to slide around and you’re going to be looking for a picture or you’re going to be, you know, turning a dial to solve a word or some shit.
Jon Right?
Mo Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George They’re all kind of the same. You’re going to be matching three tiles to shoot the sparks or whatever. I’ll say in this case, it, every game that I’ve played from this company so far, these two, ah they feel organic almost like, you know, the tree and now this little orange guy with the acorn hat, marae thing, and his little cherry dog thing, whatever, whatever.
George It just feels very organic. It’s a fun game. They’re not terribly expensive, even. I think they’re like 15 or 20 bucks. They were on sale for a little while, but there’re they’re not horribly expensive.
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah, like right now, ah this game by itself is 10 bucks. If you get it with um the soundtrack and art book, then it’s like 15 bucks, which the the soundtrack is…
Jon Yeah.
Mo no
Jon Yeah.
George gorgeous it’s an awesome audioscape that they’ve done on this game and the visuals are fun so you might want to buy both honestly i don’t recommend that very often but it’s just that type of game
Jon yeah
Jon Yeah.
Mo cool
Jon I’m going to put a, like a flag on it for the next time it’s on sale or free, because like, I don’t need new games to play.
Mo yeah
George yeah
Jon I have plenty, but, but it’s the kind of game.
George Well, there’s a good chance that you might be able to get this free right now with Amazon Prime because that’s where I got it from.
Jon Oh, okay.
George So you might look back through your Amazon Prime free stuff and it might still be available.
Jon All right.
Mo Oh.
Jon See it’s still going on. Right.
Mo I keep forgetting to check that.
Jon I’m going to look. I know. all Right.
George Well, you know, if you were a member of our Discord server, genxgrownup.com slash Discord, we have bots and people posting about free games all the time.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Zing.
Jon All the time.
George So you don’t have to forget. You can just click links from there.
Mo she
Jon And the post is like, click here to go claim it. Like it’s a direct link.
George Yeah.
Jon I see in that bot you’ve got, it works really well.
Mo yeah
George yeah Anyway, like I said at the beginning of this, I wanted to briefly talk about that game.
Jon Love it.
George imodo I know that Mo doesn’t have a game to talk about, but John, I want everybody to get a chance to hear about the game that you played in a recent live stream because it is, like Shushel, it’s unusual.
Jon Yeah.
George It’s got a few typical elements as a platformer, but it’s unusual in its execution of the platforming puzzle-solving genre.
Jon Yeah.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. And I did a live stream, as you said. I’m going to give Mo the link to put in the show notes if you want to go and see this game played. But it’s called, it’s not French, so it’s not Tipoman. It’s Typo Man.
Jon Is that how you say it in French? Probably not. Typo Man is the name. So Typo, like I made a mistake typing, Typo Man, that’s the name of this game. And it’s far from new.
Jon I want to say it maybe initially came out in 2013 or so. And the version I was playing that I picked up for, I think, $3.99 on some system, some service, because they had a revised edition. And that was even 2017 or something. Even that is is is quite old. But…
Jon It is, as you say, a very unique premise. By appearance, it looks very much like something that you would have seen come out of Playdead Studios, like Limbo or Inside that we’ve talked about here on the show many times.
Mo Okay.
Jon Very stark, very black and white with little bursts of color here and there, but mostly it’s just very subdued. And you are this little character who starts the game out in this world that in its kind of dystopian black and whiteness is also littered with letters like they’re built into the world.
Jon Like ladders are a whole bunch of capital H’s together and…
Mo Oh, okay, okay.
Jon The bottom of this pit, there’s a capital bunch of capital A’s that serve as the spikes if you fall in a pit.
Mo Okay.
Jon And even like broken buildings, you can see letters jutting out of the buildings. Like letters are intrinsically part of the universe, not just language to describe it, it’s built in the world.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon And you start out as an O, just a rolling oh And within a few minutes, yeah, not a zero, you’re an O.
Mo ah Zero. Zero.
Jon And in a few minutes, you you jump on an E. you Actually, you pass past the world word evolve. And when you hit the E, you join with the O and it becomes like a chest, like a rib cage. And then shortly you have an H that’s like legs you walk.
Jon And then you find this bent up R that serves as an arm, which by the way, spells hero.
Mo Oh, weird.
Jon That’s the hero of the game, H-E-R-O.
Mo Oh.
Jon And you’re working a way through. It’s a platforming puzzle game. And like a limbo or outside, you work your way through these odd environments trying to figure out the very thing George said is in all these games, drag the box and put this ladder here and move this over to make that jump.
Mo she she she she
George Right.
Jon That is definitely part of it. But the way you accomplish things, like if I need to turn on a switch in other games, you have to go and either find the lever so that you can throw the switch or you have to go and find the handle so you can put it on the machine and turn it.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon In typo man, I need to go find the letters O and N and set them next to it so the word on appears and boom, the thing comes on. And they start to teach you right away how words are baked into this world. If I need to turn something, well, I need to put in the word T-U-R-N to turn it. Well, I have enough letters. Maybe I can spell rotate or twist or whatever. There’s a huge vocabulary.
Jon um There’s one scenario where I had a bunch of letters and I could type rise or raise or a arise. Any of them would work. So I think back to like, mo we played Deus Ex so much.
Jon We love that game.
Mo Yeah, yeah.
Jon Nothing like this game.
George Mm-hmm.
Jon But what it did have in common was more than one way to accomplish the same goal. And it’s based on how you use letters, what letters are available to you, how you can bring them in. And then they add this twist about maybe an hour into the game where maybe I can’t make the word I need to change what’s happening in the world.
Jon But if I can make the opposite of it and I spell the word lie, L-I-E, it turns into a little robot who flips the letter. So if you type truth, he’s going to turn it into false.
Jon You know, he’s going to change the words, change the letters entirely.
Mo Oh, weird.
Jon You have to really think outside the box with it. Uh, plenty of platforming, plenty of puzzling. Uh, at the end of my live stream, I think I ran about two hours. actually got to a part that was like supreme platform. You had to really make a whole bunch of jumps because it was this fire rushing you. But most of the time you can sit still and just analyze and think and build little words and see what do they do in the word. Some, sometimes they do dumb stuff. I typed the word RIP and a headstone fell and crushed me.
Jon Just stupid stuff like that. It is really creative, an entirely different way than your games. You’ve been talking about, George R., but in a way that that I’ve seen games tried, like I think of scribble knots, which I think was like a Nintendo DS game where you could write words and they would manifest ah a ladder or a truck or whatever, whatever you wrote, it would create, but this, you don’t you don’t write the words to affect the world.
Jon The words live in the world. You actually pick up a letter F and drop it in a spot and it makes something happen.
Mo Yeah.
Jon um Really creative. And I can tell me how many people were watching that were like, I’d never heard of this. I’m going to buy it right now because they’re like, this is so different and original.
Mo yeah
George So my wife and I were watching it in our living room and I was on my phone so I could chat a little bit and we were watching it. And then you got to this one part where you needed to, you had three letters on one level. And then the fourth level, the fourth letter was on the right hand side and you were talking yourself through, i don’t know what to spell here.
George And my wife and I were both screaming at the screen. It’s this other letter. You need to get it over here. And so you can spell this word because we could see it.
Jon Yeah.
George And any game that makes people scream at the screen is probably going to be a good game, in my opinion.
Mo Yeah.
Jon it It grabbed you, huh?
George what What really ah gets me is I clicked on your link that you’re going to give to Mo for people to go buy this on Steam. Do you know they have a bundle of this with sound or soundine or in Sound Mind or whatever that game was that we used to play that was very disconcerting and all the tapes and everything?
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
George those two companies are, they’re separate. They’re not the same company, but they’re bundled together.
Jon Yeah.
Mo okay
Jon ah I noticed that what an odd mix of games.
George I really, right. But I could see myself playing these two games in a weekend. That’s a great bundle. Truthfully, that would make me happy the whole weekend.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Yeah.
George I play one on Saturday, the other one on Sunday, and then go back and play. Those are both great games, right?
Jon You got your chocolate in my peanut butter.
George Yeah.
Mo Yeah, I was looking at this game. It’s not it’s not a new game.
Jon That’s what i’m saying.
George No.
Jon it It’s at least 10 years old.
Mo This came out. Yeah, it came out 2016.
Jon Yeah.
Mo I was like holy crap.
Jon Yeah. Yeah. Like it’s almost 10 years old. Yeah. Well, no, I think 2016 is, like I said, that’s the revised edition. I think it’s even older, but you know what?
Mo Mm hmm.
Jon If you haven’t played it, it’s new to you and it was new to me.
Mo Yeah, true. Absolutely.
Jon Yeah. It’s really good. I recommend you at least take a look at the live stream or go, you know, watch a video of it or something. If you like those kinds of other platformers and like I do, like we do might be right up your alley.
Jon So check it out.
Mo Nice.
Jon Good. Great.
Mo Oh, this look cute.
Jon so Okay.
Jon All right. As we round out the last segment of the show, we always like to pause here to talk about the things we’re either looking at now or looking forward to between now and the next time we get together.
Jon And Mo, let me start with you. don’t know what you have on the horizon.
Mo Sure. a New season of Poker Face. That’s the show with ah Natasha Leone that she’s basically that she can always tell when someone’s lying.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Jon Yep.
Mo um And what’s really cool about this show is that it’s it’s set very much like in 70s weekly detective show format. Like, you know, it even the text and the words and stuff are still like the same. So that’s is cool show. So I’m looking forward to second season that which is already out in Peacock right now.
Mo up
Jon Okay.
Mo And the 15th of May on FX is Welcome to Wrexham. The new season is coming.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo Really looking forward to that.
George Yep.
Jon Okay.
Mo I know you can’t miss the news about what happened, but I’d like to see how they got there.
George Well, you can if you’re John who doesn’t follow sports.
Jon Yeah.
Mo That’s true.
Jon That’s true.
Mo That’s true.
Jon It’s easy. Yeah.
Mo But ah again, it’s just a charming show. It’s a field, you know, it’s just, it’s just a nice show to watch. It’s nice palate cleanser. Let’s know the decent people in the world. So it’s a good show to watch. What I’m really looking key forward to though, is that, which I just totally caught me off guard is that on the 25th of May on adult swim, Rick and Morty new season, season eight’s coming, which still going on.
Jon Hmm. That’s still going on. Okay.
Mo If they just take a really long time between seasons, apparently, I guess, They have a successful show. They can do whatever they want. But again, it’s just a weird, funny show.
Jon Yeah.
Mo I just, it’s just so bizarre. I just watch every single one. So just looking forward to that.
Jon Okay.
Mo So that’s what I got.
Jon Cool.
Mo How about you, John?
Jon ah Yeah, I got some stuff coming up, mostly media. ah There’s a I’m always a sucker for ah a true crime documentary series. So coming out on May 11th, which is um i guess by the time you hear this, it’s out now on um Investigation Discovery ID and also on Max called The Bakersfield Three, A Tale of Murder and Motherhood.
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon ah i just didn’t dig into it too much. But again, it’s. It’s one of those true crime things.
Mo It’s true crime.
Jon And when I find them, I always go and watch those because you never know how good or bad they are, but at least, you know, it’s captivating because you’re like, oh, this really happened. So I always, I always enjoy Uh, let’s see. I am somewhat looking forward to the new live action Lilo and Stitch, May 23rd and theaters.
George Eh.
Mo a
Jon I’m not a big fan of the live action remakes of stuff.
Mo Me neither.
Jon And the irony is so much of the live action is CG anyway. It’s not live action. So it really, I guess parts of this are just stitches.
Mo Yeah.
Jon But um my wife is a bonkers stitch fan. You know, she’s got the stitch blanket and the stitch stuffed animal and flippers and everything. So I don’t know what her attitude is toward it, but we’re probably going to need to see it.
Jon So looking forward at least to see what comes out of it.
Mo yeah I heard somewhere that they’re yeah I heard somewhere that they’re doing some of these things to save their IP also like by doing this movie it extends the IP out longer for legal such I don’t know if that’s the case but don’t know that’s only reason I could come up with because it seem like they’re good movies
Jon So.
Jon it’s It seems like a lot of lot of investment to protect your IP. I don’t know.
George Right.
Jon And the third thing.
George I think they’re just out of ideas and we turn cartoons into people now.
Mo yeah yeah
George That’s all there is.
Jon Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. We see a Lion King, Cinderella, Snow White, all those things. ah The third thing I’ve said the last couple of times, i to keep saying it until we get there, and that’s the Southern Fried Gaming Expo coming up in Atlanta June 20th through the 22nd. I look forward to that every year. I’m so excited to go.
Jon And, of course, if you want to attend, we’ll all be there running some panels. We’ll be there playing games all weekend long. ah If you’re going to be able to go in the Atlanta area, head over to gameatl.com. You can use the promo code GenX, grown up, all one word, and save $5 on your ticket.
Jon I know that Mo and George also amped to go.
Mo Oh yeah.
Jon Yeah. George, how about you? What do you got coming up other than SFG, of course?
George Well, just a brief note on SFG. I just confirmed, uh, through one of the organizers there, uh, you guys might have a problem getting me to the panels because the evil dead pinball machine is going to be making an appearance at SFG.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo Mm-mm.
Mo Ooh.
George Thanks to spooky pinballs participation. So, uh,
Jon So George is going to bike lock himself to it.
George I don’t know if I’ll be, yeah I, I might just have to have a pizza delivered to the pinball machine.
Jon So.
George Cause I might not leave. I’ve been wanting to play that damn thing forever since it got released. Anyway, uh, stuff I’m looking forward to first off mission impossible final reckoning on May 23rd.
Jon Yep.
George This is, uh, the sequel to the part one dead reckoning that came out in what, like 2023, think two years ago
Mo Yeah, I totally forgot about what happened in that movie. Yeah.
Jon Yeah. I got to rewatch that thing.
George I’m just looking forward to it to be done with it at this point, really.
Mo Always fun.
George I just want to be done with the Mission Impossible franchise. think there’s like seven or eight films in that damn thing.
Jon Yep. A lot of them.
George ah Lego Master Season 5 over on Fox, May the 19th.
Mo m
Jon Wow.
Mo he’s a phone
George That’s always a fun series. Good, heartfelt stories. They do a lot of fun stuff with Legos.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George So most of us from our generation are big fans of Legos. I don’t think you could go wrong by watching that show. But the thing that I’m looking forward to the most right now, ah believe it or not, is Karate Kid Legends.
George So this is the new movie that’s the Jackie Chan, Ralph Macchio.
Mo Yeah.
Jon Hmm.
George I know a lot of people are split on that because a lot of people don’t lot of people don’t think that the Jackie Chan is Karate Kid Universe.
Jon Yep.
Mo um I’m I’m going to see it. I’m going to see it. I mean, come on.
George But in the trailers, I got the distinct impression that Mr. Han, Jackie Chan’s character, knew Mr.
Jon Mm hmm.
George Miyagi.
Mo Yeah.
George And so there’s something going on there.
Jon Okay.
George And of course he brings a student to Ralph Macchio to help put him on the right path and all this.
Mo Mm hmm.
Jon Nice.
George I think it’s going to be a lot of fun. I know Will Smith and there’s a lot of controversy and stuff. He was involved heavily in the Jackie Chan film with his son and producing and all like that.
Mo Yeah.
George But yeah, You know, we’re done with Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai is over. We can’t get it back unless you rewatch it, but you’re never going to get a new episode.
Mo Mm
George I’m just super happy that this storyline and arc and character world and universe gets to continue on because…
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo hmm.
George It’s one of my favorites from when I was a kid. I think a lot of people in our generation really loved the Karate Kid movies.
Mo Oh, yeah.
George I know a lot of people in this generation liked the Cobra Kai storylines and series on ah Netflix or wherever.
Mo Mm-hmm.
George And it started off on ah YouTube of all places, if you remember right.
Jon That’s right. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah.
George uh i i just think this is going to be a fun movie if you go into it not being too critical or protective of your memories it’s what i learned after battle star galactica’s reimagined series i didn’t watch that thing for two seasons because i was like no way starbuck is a girl that’s bullshit I have learned through that series to accept all things on their own merits and give them a fair chance. And that’s what I’m going to do with Karate Kid Legends on May the 30th.
Mo Nice.
Jon Yeah, that’s stuck up on me too. I heard it was coming and then all of a sudden it’s coming this month. like, holy crap, that’s stuck up on me.
George Mm-hmm.
Mo she
Jon All right, but before we wrap up the show, i want to thank a brand new patron. But before I do, you know, one of the many benefits you get of supporting us over on Patreon is the opportunity to ask a question that all three of us will answer here on the show. And Mo, have you got a question from a Patreon supporter?
Mo Yeah, this question is from Matt. And this one, like I told you guys about this question early because I said this is going to take some thought. ah So I gave you a big heads up on this one.
Jon Okay.
Mo um So the question is, you have a chance to go back and relive a day of your youth.
Jon Mm
Mo And I’m basically taking that through high school, like up to your high school. You can’t change anything.
Jon hmm.
Mo You’re just making it. You’re just reliving it exactly the way it happened. What day would that be and why?
Jon Yeah,
Mo And it was tough to come up with a one, but yeah know I did.
Jon okay.
Mo So who wants to go first? How about you, John?
Jon I don’t mind. Yeah, I can go first. you It was kind of tough to come up with one because you can’t change it is the thing.
Mo Right.
Jon like There were plenty of things like I’d go back and fix or I’d go back and do better or maybe I’d go back and undo. But if you just the way the way that Matt really framed it, it really just becomes more of a like relive like you’re watching a good movie again, like re-experience something.
Mo Yeah.
Jon And so
Mo Mm-hmm.
Jon I don’t think I could pick a single one, but I could narrow it down. Look, if somebody walked up with a time machine he said, here it is, I’d pick one. But it’s probably going to be… It’s going to be one of the some Saturday in high school when I was off on a on a on a marching band competition.
Mo Okay.
Mo ah Okay.
Jon So I really loved marching band when I was in high school. It was it was a big part of it was my free time as my hobby is my identity. It was yeah all my friends were there. And with a marching band, too, if you have a good one that’s that we had, it’s kind of there’s a sense of cohesion and.
Jon camaraderie that’s, it’s like a, it’s like a super watered down version of, I can imagine like people in the military in the same squadron or something, right? Because it’s none of the danger, of course, of anything like that. don’t mean to minimize that, but you’re all working together together toward a common goal and what you do affects your buddy next to you and you try to do things to save him.
Mo Common purpose. Right.
Jon It’s a great sense of camaraderie that I loved in marching band in high school. So, And the great thing about a competition is you go all day long with your friends for marching band. You see other bands and you go to you travel on a bus and do all that stuff.
Jon And I remember some of the best days in high school for me were when we would go off on an all day marching band thing. And I would just go back and relive that. And the thrill of performing again and stuff gives me chills now thinking about it Just to get those chills back would be fun.
Mo Yeah.
Jon So yeah, I’d go back to some marching band competition.
Mo Cool. George, you want to go it would not be It would not be a thing without you having a question.
George ah Well, I have a question first before I do.
Jon You used to qualify it. Yeah.
George Well, so do I need to give the John PG answer or should I give the George rated R answer?
Mo George, be yourself.
George Because
Mo Be true to yourself, man. That’s all I can say.
George hi I don’t think this podcast can be released. I think the FCC would shut it down if I give the be true to myself answer.
Jon Well, I’ve got a beep button in case I need it.
George oh
Jon So go ahead.
George run ah you
Mo Yeah, we could beep you.
George your beat button would get worn out, sir. It’s not going to make it this whole time.
Jon Mm-hmm.
George oh Now I’ll go with the PG answer. The John is right. The caveat that you can’t change anything modifies what I would do because
George There’s a lot of days that I would go back in my youth and change.
Mo Oh, yeah, absolutely.
George um Not just my own actions, but circumstances or other people’s actions or different things that I would try and change.
Mo Mm hmm.
George up If I can’t change anything and I want to go back to a day, of course I want to go back to a happy memory.
Jon Right, exactly.
George One of the happiest memories that I have… um that just kind of, I don’t know. It’s just kind of happy because it centers around an accomplishment that I didn’t get to pursue later in life, but it showed, it was the first sign that I had something different than other people. Uh, and that was when I won defensive player of the year in little league.
George So, uh,
Mo Hmm.
Jon Nice.
Mo Hmm.
George We, you know, Little League is, it’s usually the second league, at least in my area, when you’re doing real pitching to the players. And what I say that is you have your Adam League, which is usually T-ball in this area.
George And then you have Cub League, which is like the very first pitching, but… you’re not really controlling anything. It’s just a kid on in the field, throwing the ball as close to the plate as he can get it where a coach is standing there and they’re not necessarily calling balls strikes, but little league, which is the little league world series and everything.
George That’s when stuff gets really serious. And, uh,
Mo Yeah, it’s like real baseball.
George Yeah, it’s like real baseball. And it was when I took over things like play calling, field adjustments, all of that stuff. I studied heavily all the opposing teams. And granted, this is, you know, 12, 13 years old, something like that. So, yeah, I’m really young.
George And I’m not saying I did it professionally, but I did it to the best of my ability.
Jon Mm-hmm. It’s
George And I Outside of getting named to AAU teams, traveling teams, all-star teams, all that kind of stuff, which happened, ah getting a singular award like that, especially as a catcher,
George because the catcher is kind of the mastermind on a baseball field and is key to defense in baseball.
Jon fun
Mo Sure.
Mo sure
George um so That was really important to me. It showed me for the first time I had something that I could use to possibly take this to a professional level. Now, one of those days that I would go back and change prevented that later in my life, but that’s the day that I would go back to and relive if I couldn’t change anything.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo Yeah, ah that’s great.
Jon Nice.
Mo Yeah, this took a lot of thought for me, too, because it’s like like you guys said, like had to be a happy memory and a whole bunch of stuff.
Jon Sure.
Mo And what I kind of came down to was um a day I cut school in high school, which is just sound weird. But the reason why it was.
Jon It was Ferris Bueller’s day off, wasn’t it?
Mo it Well, it was just that basically it was like we had certain things like in the morning, and my dad always had drink coffee in the morning and talked.
Jon ah
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo you know, that was the thing we did every single morning during the week, you know, that, you know my dad’s no longer here. And I would just love to relive that part one, just to have that experience again, just talk about the news, whatever.
Jon Mm-hmm.
Mo I mean, we just talk about whatever. um Then it was like and my two best friends, we would cut school, we’d go down to Chinatown, get bows, you know, those buns, get a cup of coffee, go to Strasu Seaport, hang out again, just BS for a while.
Mo go to somebody’s apartment, we paid Dungeons and Dragons or something like that until school ended, right? And then we’d have to leave.
Jon Yeah.
Mo And then usually at that point, then I would meet my brother David and we’d go do dinner or something like that, which also my brother David’s not here also. But again, it’s like nothing special necessarily, but there were just so many of those moments that, you know, I wish I could go back and just have a super clear memory again of them because it’s just feelings right now, like not specifics, if that makes sense.
Jon Right.
Jon Yeah.
George Yeah.
Jon Like at the time it was mundane, but now, now there’s a special significance that you wish you had paid more attention at the time.
Mo Yeah, exactly.
Mo Exactly.
Jon I get it.
Mo Exactly.
Jon Yeah. Yeah.
Mo You know, I said, I wouldn’t change anything. and did They could go exactly the same. i just, you know, just a fact that could be more aware of like, of what was happening and just sort of appreciate it more at the time.
Jon Yeah.
Mo So that’s probably what day I would go back to.
Jon Yeah. That was a deep question and good answers too.
Mo yeah. Yeah, it was. Yeah, great question, Matt.
Jon Wow.
Mo um But again, for all our listeners out there, if you would like to give us a question, it’s super easy.
Jon Yeah.
Mo Just go to GenXGrowup.com slash Patreon.
Jon Yep.
Jon Yep.
Mo Lil’s a dollar a month. Send me your question and we’ll probably answer it right here on the show.
Jon That’s right. ah Speaking of, I want to thank a brand new patron, James, also known all over the comment section on YouTube as Rip Van Exer. He’s a Gen Xer as well. I guess he’s sleepy. I’m just Rip Van Exer.
Jon I know. He’s been a longtime follower. And just recently, um he headed over to patreon.com slash Gen X Grownup. As you said, Mo, opened up his wallet and his heart simultaneously and made a financial pledge to support what we do.
Jon in long term, on a recurring pledge. And James, want to thank you so much. And you are part of a growing and amazing army of people who do what you do and support what we do here on the podcast, over on YouTube, on the website, and everywhere else that we put stuff out, social and stuff. So thank you so much for joining us.
Jon We so, so appreciate that you did. That is going to wrap it up for this one. That is going to wrap it up for this edition of the show. Don’t worry, though, if you were worried at all, don’t worry. We’ll be back in a couple of weeks with a brand new one. Next week is our backtrack.
Jon And I got to tell you guys, this backtrack coming up, I’m going to be talking so much you’re to interrupt me in the middle of the backtrack because we’re going to talk about…
George a
Jon The mythical, amazing 1981 board game by Milton Bradley was just printed for one year. Then it went away. Dark Tower. Oh, it was on my bucket list forever.
George e
Jon i kicked the bucket, got one. ah Thanks to someone on this show. i I love that game. We’re going to talk about its history, how it’s had its ongoing legacy and what it’s like to play it.
Jon So whether you you know Dark Tower or you’ve heard of it or want to find out what the big deal is, we’re going to talk all about it next week. That’s coming up on the backtrack.
Mo Very cool.
Jon So, Hope you will join us for that one. I’ll definitely be there and maybe I’ll let George and Mo speak a little bit as well.
Mo We’ll try.
Jon All right. Hope to see you then. Until then, I am John. George, thank you so much for being here, man.
George Yes, sir.
Jon Mo, you know I appreciate you.
Mo Always he fun, man.
Jon Fourth listener at you. We all appreciate most of all, though. We can’t wait to talk to you again next time. Bye-bye.
George See you guys.
Mo Take care, everybody.
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Mo As someone who barely manages to squeeze in as a GenXer my memories include more of the 70's than those younger GenXers. Reading and movies are my passions with some video gaming thrown in there for good measure!

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